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Post by cooperphil156 on Sept 30, 2019 16:46:45 GMT
Ignoring the rest if the league for a second, is this years budget the same, bigger or smaller than last year? If you know of course. I believe the base budget for on ice recruitment is the same... Now the wording there is important as it includes coaches & stuff.
Whether it includes the DOH is open to interpretation. I'd argue it does as recruitment has been labelled the HC's role in the past.
It's never been really mentioned what role the DOH has after the recruitment phase. For the cynical out there, (Hi, Iggy), it's .50 cal ammunition.
I think you may be right in that the budget does include the DOH. Things may improve, but I tend to feel that the jam has been spread a bit thin and as Wallace did a good job with limited resources last season, it is thought that he could put the Panthers on the way to being competitive. It almost seems that we are rebuilding without the same resources as others for next season - then next season etc
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Post by iginla on Sept 30, 2019 19:01:03 GMT
Ignoring the rest if the league for a second, is this years budget the same, bigger or smaller than last year? If you know of course. I believe the base budget for on ice recruitment is the same... Now the wording there is important as it includes coaches & stuff.
Whether it includes the DOH is open to interpretation. I'd argue it does as recruitment has been labelled the HC's role in the past.
It's never been really mentioned what role the DOH has after the recruitment phase. For the cynical out there, (Hi, Iggy), it's .50 cal ammunition.
Told ya the DOH was a total waste of money ! 🙄
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Post by bobness on Oct 1, 2019 7:08:15 GMT
For a small amount of context, I believe moneybags CHL Belfast haven't won away all season yet. They are 3 and 3, in all EIHL competitions with one of those losses in OT. Moneybags Steelers are 5 and 5, and have already made a change, bringing in a far cheaper player, I'd assume. Moneybags teambuilders Cardiff are 5 and 2, but have been spanked at home to the Clan and away at Coventry, and squeaking past Guildford twice. Wallace does appear to use the same random line generator that CN had, and used it all weekend. I can't see how you can get much chemistry going when you're not playing with the same people shift in shift out. You make a good point about the random line generator, the lines we had out on Saturday were different to the ones we had out on Sunday. Obviously Wallace wasn’t happy after Saturdays game, hence the changes but he was more upbeat after yesterday’s game so maybe he felt like there were more positive signs. For me Bulmer and Herr are our two best forwards, when Loiseau comes back in I suspect he may be given a chance on a line with them or, I’d even give Malmquist a chance to play at centre with them, he’s showing some promising signs of the player he can be. I’m still frustrated and disappointed after the weekend just gone, but we need to allow Wallace to identify the best forward line combinations. We’ve had quite a few injuries and bans in the forward ranks which hasn’t helped Tim, but once he makes the decisions we all need to give them time to build chemistry. Fair points, but Bulmer? Really? So far, he's the new Guptill for me, but without the eye for goal. Can be impressive once or twice a game, but his work rate is abysmal. Herr has 13 points in 9 EIHL games. He's a special player, no doubt. Skilful, works hard, leads the team in shots by a mile. You can see why he's spent 3 years in the A despite not being drafted. Bulmer has 1 assist in 6 games, and "leads" the team at -4 in the League, without a + to his name.
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 1, 2019 7:50:49 GMT
You make a good point about the random line generator, the lines we had out on Saturday were different to the ones we had out on Sunday. Obviously Wallace wasn’t happy after Saturdays game, hence the changes but he was more upbeat after yesterday’s game so maybe he felt like there were more positive signs. For me Bulmer and Herr are our two best forwards, when Loiseau comes back in I suspect he may be given a chance on a line with them or, I’d even give Malmquist a chance to play at centre with them, he’s showing some promising signs of the player he can be. I’m still frustrated and disappointed after the weekend just gone, but we need to allow Wallace to identify the best forward line combinations. We’ve had quite a few injuries and bans in the forward ranks which hasn’t helped Tim, but once he makes the decisions we all need to give them time to build chemistry. Fair points, but Bulmer? Really? So far, he's the new Guptill for me, but without the eye for goal. Can be impressive once or twice a game, but his work rate is abysmal. Herr has 13 points in 9 EIHL games. He's a special player, no doubt. Skilful, works hard, leads the team in shots by a mile. You can see why he's spent 3 years in the A despite not being drafted. Bulmer has 1 assist in 6 games, and "leads" the team at -4 in the League, without a + to his name. Totally agree on Bulmer. In the 2 games i've seen this weekend he appeared to coast around half arsed doing nothing like what he is capable of.
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Post by texpef on Oct 1, 2019 7:52:27 GMT
Fair points, but Bulmer? Really? So far, he's the new Guptill for me, but without the eye for goal. Can be impressive once or twice a game, but his work rate is abysmal. Herr has 13 points in 9 EIHL games. He's a special player, no doubt. Skilful, works hard, leads the team in shots by a mile. You can see why he's spent 3 years in the A despite not being drafted. Bulmer has 1 assist in 6 games, and "leads" the team at -4 in the League, without a + to his name. Totally agree on Bulmer. In the 2 games i've seen this weekend he appeared to coast around half arsed doing nothing like what he is capable of. And maybe this is why he plied his trade last season at MK and not Cardiff/Belfast eh... Whats that phrase pay peanuts... get monkeys?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 8:06:21 GMT
Totally agree on Bulmer. In the 2 games i've seen this weekend he appeared to coast around half arsed doing nothing like what he is capable of. And maybe this is why he plied his trade last season at MK and not Cardiff/Belfast eh... Whats that phrase pay peanuts... get monkeys? Bulmer was the top points scorer in Fife last season.
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Post by bobness on Oct 1, 2019 8:32:56 GMT
Totally agree on Bulmer. In the 2 games i've seen this weekend he appeared to coast around half arsed doing nothing like what he is capable of. And maybe this is why he plied his trade last season at MK and not Cardiff/Belfast eh... Whats that phrase pay peanuts... get monkeys? Are you thinking of Golovkovs?
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Post by EMB on Oct 1, 2019 9:55:31 GMT
And maybe this is why he plied his trade last season at MK and not Cardiff/Belfast eh... Whats that phrase pay peanuts... get monkeys? Bulmer was the top points scorer in Fife last season. He needs to up his game then because when we went to Fife a couple of weeks ago he was shocking. I thought he would turn it on big time but I couldn't have been more disappointed with him. Even Lacho worked harder than him.
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Post by wgray on Oct 1, 2019 10:35:43 GMT
You make a good point about the random line generator, the lines we had out on Saturday were different to the ones we had out on Sunday. Obviously Wallace wasn’t happy after Saturdays game, hence the changes but he was more upbeat after yesterday’s game so maybe he felt like there were more positive signs. For me Bulmer and Herr are our two best forwards, when Loiseau comes back in I suspect he may be given a chance on a line with them or, I’d even give Malmquist a chance to play at centre with them, he’s showing some promising signs of the player he can be. I’m still frustrated and disappointed after the weekend just gone, but we need to allow Wallace to identify the best forward line combinations. We’ve had quite a few injuries and bans in the forward ranks which hasn’t helped Tim, but once he makes the decisions we all need to give them time to build chemistry. Fair points, but Bulmer? Really? So far, he's the new Guptill for me, but without the eye for goal. Can be impressive once or twice a game, but his work rate is abysmal. Herr has 13 points in 9 EIHL games. He's a special player, no doubt. Skilful, works hard, leads the team in shots by a mile. You can see why he's spent 3 years in the A despite not being drafted. Bulmer has 1 assist in 6 games, and "leads" the team at -4 in the League, without a + to his name. I think Bulmer’s got the ability to come good. I agree, his work rate leaves a lot to be desired, but in all honesty I don’t see any other forward with the offensive ability he’s got, do you?
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Post by bobness on Oct 1, 2019 10:57:08 GMT
Fair points, but Bulmer? Really? So far, he's the new Guptill for me, but without the eye for goal. Can be impressive once or twice a game, but his work rate is abysmal. Herr has 13 points in 9 EIHL games. He's a special player, no doubt. Skilful, works hard, leads the team in shots by a mile. You can see why he's spent 3 years in the A despite not being drafted. Bulmer has 1 assist in 6 games, and "leads" the team at -4 in the League, without a + to his name. I think Bulmer’s got the ability to come good. I agree, his work rate leaves a lot to be desired, but in all honesty I don’t see any other forward with the offensive ability he’s got, do you? His ability may be very good (his CV suggests so) but I'm not seeing much of it just now. I do hope he comes good, as I do for all the players, but he needs to up his game a bit, for me. There are many forwards with more end product than him at the moment, ability doesn't win you games. I was warned of his tendency to coast a bit when we signed him. "if you thought Guptill was frustrating, wait until you see Bulmer" was the quote I got...
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 1, 2019 12:12:00 GMT
I think Bulmer’s got the ability to come good. I agree, his work rate leaves a lot to be desired, but in all honesty I don’t see any other forward with the offensive ability he’s got, do you? His ability may be very good (his CV suggests so) but I'm not seeing much of it just now. I do hope he comes good, as I do for all the players, but he needs to up his game a bit, for me. There are many forwards with more end product than him at the moment, ability doesn't win you games. I was warned of his tendency to coast a bit when we signed him. "if you thought Guptill was frustrating, wait until you see Bulmer" was the quote I got... I would swap Bulmer for Guptill in a heartbeat
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 1, 2019 13:18:02 GMT
I think Bulmer’s got the ability to come good. I agree, his work rate leaves a lot to be desired, but in all honesty I don’t see any other forward with the offensive ability he’s got, do you? His ability may be very good (his CV suggests so) but I'm not seeing much of it just now. I do hope he comes good, as I do for all the players, but he needs to up his game a bit, for me. There are many forwards with more end product than him at the moment, ability doesn't win you games. I was warned of his tendency to coast a bit when we signed him. "if you thought Guptill was frustrating, wait until you see Bulmer" was the quote I got... you all seem to think Guptill was just a lazy player who didn’t deserve his pay check. I’d have him back over any player on our team other than Herr. He was a top class sniper. I’d rather have a lazy goal scorer than no goal scorer.
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 1, 2019 13:44:16 GMT
His ability may be very good (his CV suggests so) but I'm not seeing much of it just now. I do hope he comes good, as I do for all the players, but he needs to up his game a bit, for me. There are many forwards with more end product than him at the moment, ability doesn't win you games. I was warned of his tendency to coast a bit when we signed him. "if you thought Guptill was frustrating, wait until you see Bulmer" was the quote I got... you all seem to think Guptill was just a lazy player who didn’t deserve his pay check. I’d have him back over any player on our team other than Herr. He was a top class sniper. I’d rather have a lazy goal scorer than no goal scorer. I'd rather neither and just sign good players. Speaks volumes that no EIHL team signed a player who scored more goals than either Joey Martin and Blair Riley. It's not like he's gone to a top league either as he's a late signing back in the ECHL.
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Post by bobness on Oct 1, 2019 14:49:31 GMT
His ability may be very good (his CV suggests so) but I'm not seeing much of it just now. I do hope he comes good, as I do for all the players, but he needs to up his game a bit, for me. There are many forwards with more end product than him at the moment, ability doesn't win you games. I was warned of his tendency to coast a bit when we signed him. "if you thought Guptill was frustrating, wait until you see Bulmer" was the quote I got... you all seem to think Guptill was just a lazy player who didn’t deserve his pay check. I’d have him back over any player on our team other than Herr. He was a top class sniper. I’d rather have a lazy goal scorer than no goal scorer. Not me. I loved watching Guptill. Lazy and disinterested without the puck, maybe. Apt to try and do too much and put his team on the back foot, maybe. But man, did he know where the net was. This goal. I actually heard the puck hit the twine, it was so quick. Scored more than half as many goals again as his nearest rival on last year's team. A brave coach would have a player like that and just tell his line mates to get him the puck and be first on the back check.
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 1, 2019 17:38:21 GMT
you all seem to think Guptill was just a lazy player who didn’t deserve his pay check. I’d have him back over any player on our team other than Herr. He was a top class sniper. I’d rather have a lazy goal scorer than no goal scorer. I'd rather neither and just sign good players. Speaks volumes that no EIHL team signed a player who scored more goals than either Joey Martin and Blair Riley. It's not like he's gone to a top league either as he's a late signing back in the ECHL. we saw the quality of the team we signed. The last signing sums it up. We needed a whole first line and we signed Bulmer. I really like bulmer but he isn’t a first line player if you want to win a throphy. Guptill created goals out of nowhere. Was always deadly with the puck. It goes to show that after Christmas time teams made sure their defence were all over him. Herr has shown that spark where he can create something of nothing, but other than Herr we have no one else like that. Is there anyone who wouldn’t have took Guptill over Jakobs?
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