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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 21:31:32 GMT
This guy will be a top 6 forward .. end of... let's be sensible At -26 last season? Really? He was playing on a team in a league far superior to what you will see this coming year.. +/- stats are redundant for forwards I pay more attention to them for d men. And yes he will be top 6
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Post by allingtonskates on Jul 5, 2019 21:32:02 GMT
PPG is all just numbers. You never know he may be an excellent skater and go to defensive forward and contribute in that way. What situations was he in in Ontario? He'll be playing more minutes here which equals more production. He'll be a very good signing, not groundbreaking numbers, but a guy that should be leaned on. The vast majority of players line up roughly with their previous stats. I have no doubt he will do what he does well, hes 26 and you dont play 4 seasons in the AHL if your rubbish. But he doesnt look like what we need. Where are our goals coming from? If hes a top 6 signing (which it sounds like) we already look short. We have 3 more to sign by my reckoning. Bloody hell they best all be 35 goals plus players. This team isnt shaping up well in my mind. We couldbe in for a long season. Id be much happier with what you guys have signed at this point. got 4 top six players to sign.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 21:33:03 GMT
The vast majority of players line up roughly with their previous stats. I have no doubt he will do what he does well, hes 26 and you dont play 4 seasons in the AHL if your rubbish. But he doesnt look like what we need. Where are our goals coming from? If hes a top 6 signing (which it sounds like) we already look short. We have 3 more to sign by my reckoning. Bloody hell they best all be 35 goals plus players. This team isnt shaping up well in my mind. We couldbe in for a long season. Id be much happier with what you guys have signed at this point. got 4 top six players to sign. If you are gonna argue at least get your facts right hey 🤣
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 5, 2019 21:33:11 GMT
Top signing this one. Young & straight out of three solid AHL seasons.
What do some people honestly expect?
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Post by allingtonskates on Jul 5, 2019 21:33:55 GMT
I don’t get how we can sign a powerforward who has played the last 4 years in the AHL at the age of 26 and people are upset with it😂
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Post by allingtonskates on Jul 5, 2019 21:35:21 GMT
Top signing this one. Young & straight out of three solid AHL seasons. What do some people honestly expect? exactly this, either they expect a NHL team or a team full of goal scorers, every team has grinders for a reason, excellent signing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 21:35:32 GMT
I don’t get how we can sign a powerforward who has played the last 4 years in the AHL at the age of 26 and people are upset with it😂 Its because people generally dont understand the game it's best just to humour them and eventually they will go away 🤣 With some people theres no hope
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Post by Shaggy on Jul 5, 2019 21:36:53 GMT
Signing of the summer so far! Of any team !! That's a stud.. not sure why hes chose to come to the U.K at that age but I ll take it. Great work Doucet and Wallace! Think you are going a bit OTT here, Pidge... perhaps you should cut back on the caffeine. Poor stats but stayed in the AHL for 4 straight seasons so must be something to him? & Nowhere near for me. The numbers just arent there. Perlini has better NCAA number as do tonnes of guys in our league. Kevin Henderson has 50% higher ppg in the AHL. Im sure he'll do a job for us but i doubt he'll turn out to be a stud. I have him at sumit like 0.6 ppg. Not convinced the the recruitment so far at all. Explained by this:- It would be a very odd defensive forward who racked up a load of points... not their primary job. The fact that he's stayed in the AHL for 3 seasons must mean that there's something more to him than your average bod. My guess (and that's all it is - a guess) is that he probably feels that he's been pigeonholed in the AHL as a shut-down player, and he wants to stretch his legs so to speak... be given a more offensive role. And if he can't do that over in N.America, he thinks that moving somewhere else may be the way. The potential for this player is huge. Whether he lives up to it or not... yes, it's that phrase again - wait and see. Overall, I'd say that this looks like a good. solid bit of team-building by Doucet & Wallace.
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Post by allingtonskates on Jul 5, 2019 21:40:32 GMT
68 games 9 goals 8 assists 5 fights 8 minor penalties +- -26 Ladies and gentlemen, one of our TOP 6 FORWARDS in the AHL, not hit his prime yet, thinks he can add more if he is given the chance of not playing a defensive role. Now 2 things can happen here, we could have a solid forward who can put up points and play physical or we have a excellent defensive forward straight out of the AHL before he has hit his prime. That’s a great signing imo.
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Post by Joe on Jul 5, 2019 21:41:36 GMT
68 games 9 goals 8 assists 5 fights 8 minor penalties +- -26 Ladies and gentlemen, one of our TOP 6 FORWARDS in the AHL, arguably one of the best leagues in the world, you are deluded with your expectations for what we should be signing
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Post by allingtonskates on Jul 5, 2019 21:43:02 GMT
in the AHL, not hit his prime yet, thinks he can add more if he is given the chance of not playing a defensive role. Now 2 things can happen here, we could have a solid forward who can put up points and play physical or we have a excellent defensive forward straight out of the AHL before he has hit his prime. That’s a great signing imo. Option 3: A complete bust like Rheault rheault is out of his prime and injury prone...
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Post by Pies on Jul 5, 2019 21:43:27 GMT
Henderson was 6 years older so I’m holding onto that positive. I’m just curious as to where people think we should be signing from as much as anything The ECHL, so many good players in this league have come from there. Get guys in the mid 20's knocking around a ppg. Then sprinkle in a few older guys with higher level expirence. Thats the formula that has worked for many teams over the years. Although i would say the goals posts are slightly shifting with the Devils. The AHL is a higher quality league though so the fact he didn’t drop to play there says a lot more about him surely? The top scorers from the AHL will go to the show. Top quality ECHL players would love to have his AHL career
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Post by pantherlee on Jul 5, 2019 21:43:34 GMT
68 games 9 goals 8 assists 5 fights 8 minor penalties +- -26 Ladies and gentlemen, one of our TOP 6 FORWARDS This is the most narrow minded argument. As has been stated he has been used in a defensive role. As for the -26 then have a look at the team. Ontario were the worst team in the AHL last year so naturally players are going to have negative +/- when the TEAM ships so many goals. The previous years when Ontario were stronger his stats aren't nearly so low. You just seem to be taking one negative stat and running with it
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Post by dreadface on Jul 5, 2019 21:45:05 GMT
68 games 9 goals 8 assists 5 fights 8 minor penalties +- -26 Ladies and gentlemen, one of our TOP 6 FORWARDS I think you need to look at Reigns whole season, looks like a bit of a shocker, first time since 2010 they’ve lost more games than they’ve won. Multiple guys with +/-‘s worse than -20. I’m optimistic but without sending the thread into a 4 page argument about how stats don’t tell you everything. Well stats don’t tell you everything.
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Post by allingtonskates on Jul 5, 2019 21:45:20 GMT
68 games 9 goals 8 assists 5 fights 8 minor penalties +- -26 Ladies and gentlemen, one of our TOP 6 FORWARDS This is the most narrow minded argument. As has been stated he has been used in a defensive role. As for the -26 then have a look at the team. Ontario were the worst team in the AHL last year so naturally players are going to have negative +/- when the TEAM ships so many goals. The previous years when Ontario were stronger his stats aren't nearly so low. You just seem to be taking one negative stat and running with it thats why the +\- stat can be absolutely pointless for some players.
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Post by Pies on Jul 5, 2019 21:47:26 GMT
Just took a look at peoples reaction when Rheault signed. People were saying he was a top class signing and was going to be the leagues top player, no-one took time to question him and he was one of our worst players last season so I mean 😂 I looked at peoples post when we signed David Ling and they said how good he was. What’s your point?
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Post by pantherlee on Jul 5, 2019 21:48:21 GMT
in the AHL, arguably one of the best leagues in the world, you are deluded with your expectations for what we should be signing So Lemytugov for the Steelers, Khl standard. The 2nd best league in the world, and we are signing a -26 guy from the Ahl Not really. 33 yrs old. Didn't play KHL last season. Did the year before but not many games and not a single goal. A good signing for Steelers yes but your argument just doesn't hold water
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Post by Joe on Jul 5, 2019 21:48:50 GMT
in the AHL, arguably one of the best leagues in the world, you are deluded with your expectations for what we should be signing So Lemytugov for the Steelers, Khl standard. The 2nd best league in the world, and we are signing a -26 guy from the Ahl he’s 33 and not KHL standard otherwise he’d be in the KHL. He also dropped into the EBEL and obviously couldn’t get a job there either
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Post by SteelerBlade on Jul 5, 2019 21:50:32 GMT
He will contribute offensively no issues, the only thing I'd be worried about is why he didn't get picked up by a higher calibre Euro side.
Maybe a gem slipped the net!
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Post by Yotes on Jul 5, 2019 21:51:02 GMT
Funny thing is l, I’m a Devils fan and winding you lot up has been classssss!! Enjoy you 7th placed season lads 😂😂😂😂 Is it summer holidays already? I'm disappointed Jord didn't spot this one though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 21:53:33 GMT
He will contribute offensively no issues, the only thing I'd be worried about is why he didn't get picked up by a higher calibre Euro side. Maybe a gem slipped the net! In Doucets latest interview Sam wanted to pursue another move in NA but got persuaded to try the U.K
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Post by Shaggy on Jul 5, 2019 22:06:01 GMT
He will contribute offensively no issues, the only thing I'd be worried about is why he didn't get picked up by a higher calibre Euro side. My take on that is that a North American defensive forward will probably have less of a chance of being snapped up by an upper-level European team because they may not see him fitting into their fast-skating, puck-moving less physical style. Again, it's the problem of being pigeonholed... if he's seen as a defensive forward, maybe a European team isn't willing to take the chance that he could fit into a different role.
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Post by wgray on Jul 5, 2019 22:08:41 GMT
As Shaggy’s post highlighted Herr has been a defensive role player in the AHL, he must have had some success with this considering he had 3 full seasons in Ontario. Coming here and applying himself in a more offensive role could pay-off for us, especially as he’s at a so called prime age. I doubt he’d come here if he was going to be playing a 3rd line role, I can see him being 2nd LW which could work out well.
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Post by iginla on Jul 5, 2019 22:15:43 GMT
This guy will be a top 6 forward .. end of... let's be sensible So is he the signing of the summer or is he possibly Panthers no6 forward ?
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 5, 2019 22:38:31 GMT
Funny thing is l, I’m a Devils fan and winding you lot up has been classssss!! Enjoy you 7th placed season lads 😂😂😂😂 Is it summer holidays already? I'm disappointed Jord didn't spot this one though. Apologies, been busy with all this contract stuff recently. Occasionally a complete moron slips the net.
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