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Post by EMB on Jul 10, 2019 22:01:24 GMT
Looks like Farms could find himself without a club if he's not careful. I see Corey has just signed Mike Hammond and Darcy Murphy, I cant see him taking two Brits on his roster unless Pete Russell is looking for one aswell. Apparently all the long term Brits except Perlini looking to move out this season but no one has come in for them so two at the moment are staying. The next couple of weeks are going to be interesting.
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Post by wgray on Jul 10, 2019 22:23:56 GMT
Looks like Farms could find himself without a club if he's not careful. I see Corey has just signed Mike Hammond and Darcy Murphy, I cant see him taking two Brits on his roster unless Pete Russell is looking for one aswell. Apparently all the long term Brits except Perlini looking to move out this season but no one has come in for them so two at the moment are staying. The next couple of weeks are going to be interesting. Two? Lacho and who else?
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Post by EMB on Jul 10, 2019 22:44:34 GMT
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Post by wgray on Jul 10, 2019 23:21:47 GMT
He was looking to move on?
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Post by Pies on Jul 11, 2019 4:51:07 GMT
If Ollie and Lacho were looking to move on, they gave up very quickly. I very much doubt they were
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Post by Shaggy on Jul 23, 2019 23:39:58 GMT
Grab your tinfoil hats, people... I've now heard one bit of speculation on the Robert Farmer subject from two different people now (although they may have been listening to the same delusional source - who knows?)...
For the cynical amongst us (eg: me) or the outright haters and/or conspiracy theorists... this could all be part of a bit of a wind-up from the club aimed at the fans. Robert Farmer could be re-signing for the Panthers (or has already done so) and they are waiting, waiting, waiting... and will announce that they've "secured his return" (or similar wording) a week or so before the warm-up games start. For those who believe that the club wants to nark us fans off any way they can... there's a motivation. For those who believe that the club will go to any lengths to make it look like they are working really hard to the last minute and succeeding brilliantly - there's a motivation.
It's conceivable on several fronts, not least that the closer we (and, more importantly, European teams) get to the start of the season, the harder it is likely for him to secure a slot over in Europe. His style isn't really very European, and he'd take up an import slot... which most European teams would probably prefer to fill with a North American player?
I just find it interesting that all of a sudden this exact scenario appears to be doing the rounds...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 6:51:07 GMT
Grab your tinfoil hats, people... I've now heard one bit of speculation on the Robert Farmer subject from two different people now (although they may have been listening to the same delusional source - who knows?)... For the cynical amongst us (eg: me) or the outright haters and/or conspiracy theorists... this could all be part of a bit of a wind-up from the club aimed at the fans. Robert Farmer could be re-signing for the Panthers (or has already done so) and they are waiting, waiting, waiting... and will announce that they've "secured his return" (or similar wording) a week or so before the warm-up games start. For those who believe that the club wants to nark us fans off any way they can... there's a motivation. For those who believe that the club will go to any lengths to make it look like they are working really hard to the last minute and succeeding brilliantly - there's a motivation. It's conceivable on several fronts, not least that the closer we (and, more importantly, European teams) get to the start of the season, the harder it is likely for him to secure a slot over in Europe. His style isn't really very European, and he'd take up an import slot... which most European teams would probably prefer to fill with a North American player? I just find it interesting that all of a sudden this exact scenario appears to be doing the rounds... The only problem with this for me is, IF he re-signs for us, who is going to be seen by the fans as the villain, Farms or the club? Many people will be thinking that he didn't want to be here and will not give his all. How will the fans react, unless the club come out and tell us it was their doing.
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Post by kezypanther on Jul 24, 2019 17:48:52 GMT
Unless he is holding out for somewhere in Europe still with the option to come back here still open. Don’t know who is at fault though in this situation
1) The club for waiting on one player rather than just going to get some else in OR 2) Farmer for not giving up sooner and signing back up when he knows how late it is
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Post by Yotes on Jul 24, 2019 19:42:16 GMT
It would just look a bit desperate all round IMO. Player wants to leave, no one wants him. Player snubs club, club take him back because they can't get anyone else.
I know there's cutting off your nose and all that, but it just seems a bit pathetic.
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Post by allingtonskates on Jul 24, 2019 19:49:00 GMT
It would just look a bit desperate all round IMO. Player wants to leave, no one wants him. Player snubs club, club take him back because they can't get anyone else. I know there's cutting off your nose and all that, but it just seems a bit pathetic. to me it seems like the situation where he went to America, they make a point in their tweet to say he was still under a EIHL contract with the panthers. To me I think it’s that he wanted to see if he could find something abroad and he didn’t get anything (unless he signs somewhere soon)
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Post by Yotes on Jul 24, 2019 19:50:51 GMT
Didn't he join Alaska from Braehead?
This time he's not even managed that bit.
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Post by allingtonskates on Jul 24, 2019 19:58:28 GMT
Didn't he join Alaska from Braehead? This time he's not even managed that bit. yes where he played 4 games with 0 points and 7 pims and then he came to us. He also went to the OHL for 1 game getting 0 points and 7 pims aswell after playing in sheffield then came back to the uk to sign for the blaze.
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Post by wgray on Jul 24, 2019 20:18:18 GMT
He doesn’t want to play for us this season, so he’s not committed. That’s it, move on.
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Post by BigLad on Jul 24, 2019 20:22:17 GMT
How is this any different to when Lacho touted himself around Europe and ended up staying?
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Post by Yotes on Jul 24, 2019 20:53:18 GMT
How is this any different to when Lacho touted himself around Europe and ended up staying? A warning from history, good point
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Post by Shaggy on Jul 24, 2019 21:59:58 GMT
Interestingly, I seem to recall that when Matt Myers said that he wanted to try his hand elsewhere, people were very supportive... and when he came back after a year in the ECHL, he was a much improved player. David Clarke didn't have quite as good a time of it over in Italy, but again - plenty of people wished him well and welcomed him back. So that kind of thing isn't always bad...
Is this total negativity just down to the wording of a PR? - from a club that is notoriously bad at PR, whose statements people tend to dismiss outright most of the time (unless they can find something to nitpick, in which case it's analysed damn near down to the molecular level!) and from a media guy who we know could try to shoot himself in the foot and take off both legs! Overreaction much?
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Post by Pies on Jul 25, 2019 5:01:47 GMT
Interestingly, I seem to recall that when Matt Myers said that he wanted to try his hand elsewhere, people were very supportive... and when he came back after a year in the ECHL, he was a much improved player. David Clarke didn't have quite as good a time of it over in Italy, but again - plenty of people wished him well and welcomed him back. So that kind of thing isn't always bad... Is this total negativity just down to the wording of a PR? - from a club that is notoriously bad at PR, whose statements people tend to dismiss outright most of the time (unless they can find something to nitpick, in which case it's analysed damn near down to the molecular level!) and from a media guy who we know could try to shoot himself in the foot and take off both legs! Overreaction much? I think the difference between those 2 was they hadn’t committed to a second year when they made that decision. I think that’s the gripe for some people. Their contracts were up, they were free to explore options. Farmer agreed to a multi year contract so is that what upsets people?
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Post by Yotes on Jul 25, 2019 8:25:07 GMT
I think there's a difference between saying you want to try something else, going and trying it (Myers, Clarke, Farmer the first time), then finding out it's not all that/not for you and coming back, and saying you want to leave, no one coming in for you and so falling begrudgingly into the safety net of your Elite League contract, one you didn't want to take up.
I'm not upset by it, don't really care either way tbh, we're miles short on Brits and he'd be top 2 in that department for us, but on the whole I'd rather have a team who want to be here.
I'm surprised he wants to go to the continent personally, has never stuck me as the sort of personality who would do well in a foreign environment (although I don't know him personally so could well be completely wrong), maybe he just doesn't want to be at Panthers and Britain is closed to him?
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Post by fluffypanther on Jul 29, 2019 15:10:03 GMT
If Farmer has signed elsewhere wouldn't we know by now ? He lost his mojo the last two seasons for Panthers , but I would be glad if he came back . The lack of impressive signings is worrying me now and my husband is already regretting our season tickets . Another season like the last two and I really think he won't spend his hard earned cash on them next season.
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Post by iginla on Jul 29, 2019 15:24:26 GMT
If Farmer has signed elsewhere wouldn't we know by now ? He lost his mojo the last two seasons for Panthers , but I would be glad if he came back . The lack of impressive signings is worrying me now and my husband is already regretting our season tickets . Another season like the last two and I really think he won't spend his hard earned cash on them next season. He’s a wise man your hubby. 😉
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 29, 2019 15:45:50 GMT
If Farmer has signed elsewhere wouldn't we know by now ? He lost his mojo the last two seasons for Panthers , but I would be glad if he came back . The lack of impressive signings is worrying me now and my husband is already regretting our season tickets . Another season like the last two and I really think he won't spend his hard earned cash on them next season. He’s a wise man your hubby. 😉 Disagree. A wise man would have cancelled after the first season.
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Post by grrm on Jul 29, 2019 15:58:11 GMT
He’s a wise man your hubby. 😉 Disagree. A wise man would have cancelled after the first season. There are many "wise" fans, who have not renewed their season ticket for this coming season after the dross served up last season. This doesn't make them any less of a fan, just someone who can only take so much "micky" taking by the club with their hard earned cash.
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Post by Pies on Jul 29, 2019 16:24:34 GMT
Disagree. A wise man would have cancelled after the first season. There are many "wise" fans, who have not renewed their season ticket for this coming season after the dross served up last season. This doesn't make them any less of a fan, just someone who can only take so much "micky" taking by the club with their hard earned cash. I’m curious.....what mickey taking did the club do last season? We signed replacement players throughout the season. We sacked an under performing coach We bought in a NHL calibre player The team was stacked with huge CV that should have done better The coach was a DEL winning coach I’m not saying the club is faultless but no one can say they didn’t back coaches in trying to correct the issues. I make this point again: people complain they want change. The club are trying to implement change. And now all people do is moan about the past. Farmer wants to go....fine. But people are acting like if he doesn’t sign, the club has no ambition. Actually, doing what they’re doing is better. He wants to hold the club to ransom, then don’t play here. The club has let too many players walk all over it and now they’re on paper trying to build a “team first ethos” as per Tim Wallace. And if you’re drained from all of the things in the past, I get it. But all this coming on her to moan about the past gets tiring. People don’t want to spend their money on Panthers but are happy to spend their time telling people they’re not spending money on Panthers seems pointless. Let’s not forget this club went through a period of winning trophy after trophy for many seasons not that long ago. The the Cardiff money bags came along and changed it. Much like the Steelers did in 1991. Or the Blaze did. Of course, it’s now time for the club to do something to drag us back up to the top where we belong but to keep going over the past when we’re trying a new model seems so counter productive. I am certainly trying to look at this situation as a glass half full because quite frankly, life’s too short to be pessimistic about everything l.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 16:44:36 GMT
Well said, Sir
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Post by grrm on Jul 29, 2019 16:53:08 GMT
There are many "wise" fans, who have not renewed their season ticket for this coming season after the dross served up last season. This doesn't make them any less of a fan, just someone who can only take so much "micky" taking by the club with their hard earned cash. I’m curious.....what mickey taking did the club do last season? We signed replacement players throughout the season. We sacked an under performing coach We bought in a NHL calibre player The team was stacked with huge CV that should have done better The coach was a DEL winning coach I’m not saying the club is faultless but no one can say they didn’t back coaches in trying to correct the issues. I make this point again: people complain they want change. The club are trying to implement change. And now all people do is moan about the past. Farmer wants to go....fine. But people are acting like if he doesn’t sign, the club has no ambition. Actually, doing what they’re doing is better. He wants to hold the club to ransom, then don’t play here. The club has let too many players walk all over it and now they’re on paper trying to build a “team first ethos” as per Tim Wallace. And if you’re drained from all of the things in the past, I get it. But all this coming on her to moan about the past gets tiring. People don’t want to spend their money on Panthers but are happy to spend their time telling people they’re not spending money on Panthers seems pointless. Let’s not forget this club went through a period of winning trophy after trophy for many seasons not that long ago. The the Cardiff money bags came along and changed it. Much like the Steelers did in 1991. Or the Blaze did. Of course, it’s now time for the club to do something to drag us back up to the top where we belong but to keep going over the past when we’re trying a new model seems so counter productive. I am certainly trying to look at this situation as a glass half full because quite frankly, life’s too short to be pessimistic about everything l. Nothing wrong with having your glass half full, but no matter how you look at it last season and previous ones have been poor - period! As such fans paying their hard earned cash have obviously felt enough is enough and many have not renewed their season ticket (otherwise we would have heard all about "record season ticket sales"). This is not "moaning about the past" rather just reacting to poor performances for far too long. Like I said this doesn't make any of them less of a fan and I'm sure all would love to see a Panthers team challenging for the league title - lets hope it's this coming season!! There you go - Glass half full !!
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