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Post by Joe on Jul 3, 2019 20:47:56 GMT
Fill the bottom 6 with hardworking brits and then stack the top 6 with high end imports
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 3, 2019 21:06:08 GMT
Blair Riley, he left the Giants after a year into a 2 year contract and is allegedly signing for the devils, just curious if Farmers contract are similar I highly doubt any club other than Panthers is daft enough to have such a ridiculous contract clause.
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Post by Warren on Jul 3, 2019 21:15:51 GMT
Name a better British forward who is currently a free agent.. I'll wait. It’s not a case of who’s a better British forward , it’s whobwants to perform as Farmer clearly didn’t want to last season... If half the rumours are true about Rich not liking half the brits (and some of those rumours were beyond not liking) then last season, should be written off for both Farmer and Lacho which answers the argument about the pair performing well at worlds. For me, Lacho isn't on a run of poor form. The anomaly is the few seasons, with Francis, that he was fantastic, and he is playing his usual game, which is a 3rd / 4th liner. Jord is right re the contracts, weather its an "unwritten" rule or is actually there in the fine print of the rule book, When a player leaves a club whilst under contract its all about who terminates the contract, if its the player then he can't sign in the EIHL. if its the club, then he is free to go where he wants. So Blair Riley, could be that Giants have terminated his contract, or haven't taken the 2nd year option. the wording of the Panthers Tweet reads to me, that he hasn't signed anywhere, is technically a panther, but is activity pursuing a contract abroad. either of the DEL2 sides EHC Freiburg / Lausitzer Füchse would be a stepping stone. The only saving grace could come in to save the day Re Farmer going, is the "british passport = Brit" so Mosey, Billingsly etc all count as brits - that is rumoured to be being brought in. Personally i cant see it this season, but come christmas, i can see it being announced for next season. But this is the EIHL, so expect it to go live mid august this season.
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Post by Bagheera on Jul 3, 2019 21:20:32 GMT
It’s not a case of who’s a better British forward , it’s whobwants to perform as Farmer clearly didn’t want to last season... If half the rumours are true about Rich not liking half the brits (and some of those rumours were beyond not liking) then last season, should be written off for both Farmer and Lacho which answers the argument about the pair performing well at worlds. For me, Lacho isn't on a run of poor form. The anomaly is the few seasons, with Francis, that he was fantastic, and he is playing his usual game, which is a 3rd / 4th liner. Jord is right re the contracts, weather its an "unwritten" rule or is actually there in the fine print of the rule book, When a player leaves a club whilst under contract its all about who terminates the contract, if its the player then he can't sign in the EIHL. if its the club, then he is free to go where he wants. So Blair Riley, could be that Giants have terminated his contract, or haven't taken the 2nd year option. the wording of the Panthers Tweet reads to me, that he hasn't signed anywhere, is technically a panther, but is activity pursuing a contract abroad. either of the DEL2 sides EHC Freiburg / Lausitzer Füchse would be a stepping stone. The only saving grace could come in to save the day Re Farmer going, is the "british passport = Brit" so Mosey, Billingsly etc all count as brits - that is rumoured to be being brought in. Personally i cant see it this season, but come christmas, i can see it being announced for next season. But this is the EIHL, so expect it to go live mid august this season. And that rule chance could be huge. If it does come in this year suddenly it's a different ball game. Regardless I wouldn't be happy to see Farmer go, but let's just say Mike Hammond was his replacement. Now that would certainly soften the blow!
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Post by iginla on Jul 3, 2019 21:21:07 GMT
It’s not a case of who’s a better British forward , it’s whobwants to perform as Farmer clearly didn’t want to last season... If half the rumours are true about Rich not liking half the brits (and some of those rumours were beyond not liking) then last season, should be written off for both Farmer and Lacho which answers the argument about the pair performing well at worlds. For me, Lacho isn't on a run of poor form. The anomaly is the few seasons, with Francis, that he was fantastic, and he is playing his usual game, which is a 3rd / 4th liner. Jord is right re the contracts, weather its an "unwritten" rule or is actually there in the fine print of the rule book, When a player leaves a club whilst under contract its all about who terminates the contract, if its the player then he can't sign in the EIHL. if its the club, then he is free to go where he wants. So Blair Riley, could be that Giants have terminated his contract, or haven't taken the 2nd year option. the wording of the Panthers Tweet reads to me, that he hasn't signed anywhere, is technically a panther, but is activity pursuing a contract abroad. either of the DEL2 sides EHC Freiburg / Lausitzer Füchse would be a stepping stone. The only saving grace could come in to save the day Re Farmer going, is the "british passport = Brit" so Mosey, Billingsly etc all count as brits - that is rumoured to be being brought in. Personally i cant see it this season, but come christmas, i can see it being announced for next season. But this is the EIHL, so expect it to go live mid august this season. I highly doubt that the Giants terminated or didn’t take an option on Blair Riley’s contract,he was their captain and one of the best players in the EIHL. Sounds to me like Panthers are being rather economical with the truth.
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Post by Warren on Jul 3, 2019 21:44:30 GMT
If half the rumours are true about Rich not liking half the brits (and some of those rumours were beyond not liking) then last season, should be written off for both Farmer and Lacho which answers the argument about the pair performing well at worlds. For me, Lacho isn't on a run of poor form. The anomaly is the few seasons, with Francis, that he was fantastic, and he is playing his usual game, which is a 3rd / 4th liner. Jord is right re the contracts, weather its an "unwritten" rule or is actually there in the fine print of the rule book, When a player leaves a club whilst under contract its all about who terminates the contract, if its the player then he can't sign in the EIHL. if its the club, then he is free to go where he wants. So Blair Riley, could be that Giants have terminated his contract, or haven't taken the 2nd year option. the wording of the Panthers Tweet reads to me, that he hasn't signed anywhere, is technically a panther, but is activity pursuing a contract abroad. either of the DEL2 sides EHC Freiburg / Lausitzer Füchse would be a stepping stone. The only saving grace could come in to save the day Re Farmer going, is the "british passport = Brit" so Mosey, Billingsly etc all count as brits - that is rumoured to be being brought in. Personally i cant see it this season, but come christmas, i can see it being announced for next season. But this is the EIHL, so expect it to go live mid august this season. I highly doubt that the Giants terminated or didn’t take an option on Blair Riley’s contract,he was their captain and one of the best players in the EIHL. Sounds to me like Panthers are being rather economical with the truth. As i say, "Could be" re Riley. the ins / outs of it is not public knowledge, and I have little interest in it, unless he's coming to us. It could be he is an absolute arse in the locker room. Could be that Giants contracts are written on toilet paper. Perhaps he has a thing with Keefe's other half? Players have been released for none hockey matters before and will in the future... Farmer going is a blow. but I am glad he has told Panthers what his intentions are. as much Its a blow, but i'd rather know now. not on 1st September. With Kelsall coming back this year, Whilst not a direct replacement for Farmer, his roster slot is now filled. The lines people are filling out in their heads need to change Farmers name to "import" and juggle their 3rd and 4th lines to include Kelsall.
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Post by Yotes on Jul 3, 2019 21:47:55 GMT
Fill the bottom 6 with hardworking brits and then stack the top 6 with high end imports Perlini won't be bottom six. You'll probably get your wish otherwise though, at least with the Brit cloggers. Not going to be much else left. Old Tight Wad should've gone and got Long straight off the bat.
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Post by Warren on Jul 3, 2019 22:00:44 GMT
Fill the bottom 6 with hardworking brits and then stack the top 6 with high end imports Perlini won't be bottom six. You'll probably get your wish otherwise though, at least with the Brit cloggers. Not going to be much else left. Old Tight Wad should've gone and got Long straight off the bat. As much as I agree, Long would be the only direct replacement that would come close, part of me is glad that NB and or GM didn't sign him. Gui and Wallace seem to have a plan and I am sure it would have included Long if he were available, but one of the biggest moans is that the Coach isn's signing players, so by the time Gui and Wallace came in, he is off the board so to speak. Brits will always be snapped up early doors as i am sure the back door deals happen at Worlds. The team coaches check in with there inside men and find out who isn't happy at their current club etc. <Tin foil Hat> Perhaps the players all discuss wages and ways of getting the highest $ from their clubs </tin foil hat>
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Post by Joe on Jul 3, 2019 22:28:37 GMT
Fill the bottom 6 with hardworking brits and then stack the top 6 with high end imports Perlini won't be bottom six. You'll probably get your wish otherwise though, at least with the Brit cloggers. Not going to be much else left. Old Tight Wad should've gone and got Long straight off the bat. Well Loiseau and Perlini are both centres and neither are 1st liners to me personally so unless one is played out of position then one will be on the 3rd line
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Post by wgray on Jul 3, 2019 23:08:56 GMT
Perlini won't be bottom six. You'll probably get your wish otherwise though, at least with the Brit cloggers. Not going to be much else left. Old Tight Wad should've gone and got Long straight off the bat. Well Loiseau and Perlini are both centres and neither are 1st liners to me personally so unless one is played out of position then one will be on the 3rd line I think Perlini will play on the 3rd line, Loiseau on the 2nd.
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Post by iginla on Jul 3, 2019 23:20:48 GMT
Fill the bottom 6 with hardworking brits and then stack the top 6 with high end imports Perlini won't be bottom six. You'll probably get your wish otherwise though, at least with the Brit cloggers. Not going to be much else left. Old Tight Wad should've gone and got Long straight off the bat. Well you can only hope that those top six forwards are real quality because the 3rd and 4th lines aren’t going to be much cop. No excuse why the top six shouldn’t be though considering the amount of Brit money that is now being saved and freed up towards paying for extra quality in the imports. Will it be though ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 4:27:13 GMT
Fill the bottom 6 with hardworking brits and then stack the top 6 with high end imports Perlini won't be bottom six. You'll probably get your wish otherwise though, at least with the Brit cloggers. Not going to be much else left. Old Tight Wad should've gone and got Long straight off the bat. Errr yes he will. Hes a centre. Our whole top line is yet to come and loiseau will be 2nd line centre!
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Post by bobness on Jul 4, 2019 7:32:42 GMT
Perlini won't be bottom six. You'll probably get your wish otherwise though, at least with the Brit cloggers. Not going to be much else left. Old Tight Wad should've gone and got Long straight off the bat. Errr yes he will. Hes a centre. Our whole top line is yet to come and loiseau will be 2nd line centre! Right you are, coach.
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Post by Walitzer on Jul 4, 2019 7:51:31 GMT
Perlini won't be bottom six. You'll probably get your wish otherwise though, at least with the Brit cloggers. Not going to be much else left. Old Tight Wad should've gone and got Long straight off the bat. Errr yes he will. Hes a centre. Our whole top line is yet to come and loiseau will be 2nd line centre! I wouldn't be so sure Coach Pidge.
Perlini doesn't always play centre, nor is Loiseau's position set in stone, infact one of his biggest selling points is his flexibility up front.
Could be a potential second line of: Loiseau - Perlini - Rheault
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jul 4, 2019 7:57:22 GMT
Steelers must spend a HUGE amount of budget on Whistle, Dowd and O’Connor and where did they come last season?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 8:20:02 GMT
Errr yes he will. Hes a centre. Our whole top line is yet to come and loiseau will be 2nd line centre! Right you are, coach. Unless you are happy players playing out of position then crack on..
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Post by bobness on Jul 4, 2019 10:09:04 GMT
Unless you are happy players playing out of position then crack on.. Not up to me where they play, I'm not coach. Not many forwards last season didn't take at least some face offs, which is what a centre mostly does, yes? Those renowned centres Farmer, Biggs and Lachowicz took over 400 face offs last season. Perlini himself had 5 or fewer face offs taken in 16 league games last year, and didn't take a single face off in 6, and only a single face off in 3. So basically played "out of position" for over a quarter of the season. Surprised you didn't know that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 10:17:39 GMT
Yes I knew he didn't always take face offs, it's part of the reason teams dont achieve much.. square pegs in round holes eh!
Lacho taking face offs? May as well let a d man take them! Its the job of a centre strangely unless you are killing pens!
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Post by spik on Jul 4, 2019 10:25:45 GMT
Looks like a number of people on here have had their wish come true, asking for us to get rid of these 'poor' Brits. Now Lee, Farms and Gospel (2 of which were GB Internationals) have gone, lets see which better ones are available to replace them. I missed when Gospel has left, his pic is within the players due to play for us on the OS.
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Post by Yotes on Jul 4, 2019 10:39:50 GMT
Looks like a number of people on here have had their wish come true, asking for us to get rid of these 'poor' Brits. Now Lee, Farms and Gospel (2 of which were GB Internationals) have gone, lets see which better ones are available to replace them. I missed when Gospel has left, his pic is within the players due to play for us on the OS. He's not left entirely: www.panthers.co.uk/home/190609-gospel
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 4, 2019 10:59:11 GMT
Sam is on a two way deal, he's the third keeper in essence.
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Post by Pies on Jul 4, 2019 12:17:14 GMT
The elephant in the room for me is the Budget - is GD keeping a portion back incase Farmer signs back up? Will that stop GD bringing in a player of a higher quality just incase?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jul 4, 2019 12:38:58 GMT
The elephant in the room for me is the Budget - is GD keeping a portion back incase Farmer signs back up? Will that stop GD bringinngbin someine of a higher quality just incase? Well that happened with Farmer before but I think GD has a lot more riding on this.
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Post by iginla on Jul 4, 2019 12:41:16 GMT
For me it’s the budget too....the whole budget. Look what Steelers must be spending on their Brits,it must be close to £5k a week,Panthers won’t be spending even half that with what they have at the moment. That should mean Panthers imports ought to appear more expensive but we haven’t seen it so far.
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Post by Pies on Jul 4, 2019 12:59:02 GMT
For me it’s the budget too....the whole budget. Look what Steelers must be spending on their Brits,it must be close to £5k a week,Panthers won’t be spending even half that with what they have at the moment. That should mean Panthers imports ought to appear more expensive but we haven’t seen it so far. With the greatest respect, you’re pulling unknown numbers to make an unknown conclusion there. As you’ve said yourself before, all these are wait and see players. But I imagine there’s hundreds of hours worth of video available to GD that agents and players create that will determine the amount they spend. From the press release Panthers have put out, we’re going with some spare D men as well. We’ve not got a top 6 forward unit yet. I’d be very surprised if this is a cheap roster by the start of pre season. We’ve gone with a different looking roster - let’s not write it off before it’s complete or a picks dropped
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