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Post by cjones on Jul 3, 2019 5:29:31 GMT
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Post by Pies on Jul 3, 2019 5:36:00 GMT
No "source" for this news so where they've got their info from is beyond me. There's been nothing announced anywhere
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Post by cjones on Jul 3, 2019 5:36:33 GMT
How reliable are they in general?
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Post by EMB on Jul 3, 2019 6:17:55 GMT
Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone to Coreys team.
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Post by sevcik on Jul 3, 2019 6:43:30 GMT
Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone to Coreys team. That was the rumour I heard back at the GB v torpedo game..... Though at the time it was rumoured that Lacho was also looking to join Corey in Germany too. Whatever the future holds for Farmer I'm sure we will find out very soon. Personally I think if he was staying it would have been announced long before now. If true he's gone it's a big loss
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 7:33:01 GMT
Looks like a number of people on here have had their wish come true, asking for us to get rid of these 'poor' Brits. Now Lee, Farms and Gospel (2 of which were GB Internationals) have gone, lets see which better ones are available to replace them.
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Post by Walitzer on Jul 3, 2019 7:42:42 GMT
Looks like a number of people on here have had their wish come true, asking for us to get rid of these 'poor' Brits. Now Lee, Farms and Gospel (2 of which were GB Internationals) have gone, lets see which better ones are available to replace them. Can you find any posts of people wanting rid of Farmer?
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Post by grrm on Jul 3, 2019 7:43:35 GMT
Looks like a number of people on here have had their wish come true, asking for us to get rid of these 'poor' Brits. Now Lee, Farms and Gospel (2 of which were GB Internationals) have gone, lets see which better ones are available to replace them. Got to say I agree and I think social media and forums such as this are part of the problem. Players get slagged off left right and centre - some players will take this “appreciation” into account when looking at others offers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 8:05:57 GMT
Looks like a number of people on here have had their wish come true, asking for us to get rid of these 'poor' Brits. Now Lee, Farms and Gospel (2 of which were GB Internationals) have gone, lets see which better ones are available to replace them. Can you find any posts of people wanting rid of Farmer? Take a look at the Brits thread. Several people saying get rid of the lot, a couple saying if farmer leaves then they will not be too upset.
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Post by wannabe2 on Jul 3, 2019 8:23:11 GMT
That’s a pretty big loss for you guys, a big lad that played hard, and could score. Not everyone’s cup of tea, but certainly a asset.
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Post by dill1015 on Jul 3, 2019 8:23:23 GMT
Looks like a number of people on here have had their wish come true, asking for us to get rid of these 'poor' Brits. Now Lee, Farms and Gospel (2 of which were GB Internationals) have gone, lets see which better ones are available to replace them. Got to say I agree and I think social media and forums such as this are part of the problem. Players get slagged off left right and centre - some players will take this “appreciation” into account when looking at others offers. It must do. But theres no smoke without fire. The amount of players who underperform for us is silly. Steve Lee is a great example, put him in a GB shirt and hes a different player. Im convinced theres a culture problem at the club. Its just too many players for it to just be them.
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Jul 3, 2019 8:26:55 GMT
Got to say I agree and I think social media and forums such as this are part of the problem. Players get slagged off left right and centre - some players will take this “appreciation” into account when looking at others offers. It must do. But theres no smoke without fire. The amount of players who underperform for us is silly. Steve Lee is a great example, put him in a GB shirt and hes a different player. Im convinced theres a culture problem at the club. Its just too many players for it to just be them. Lachowicz worked twice as hard at the Worlds than I've seen him perform in years in a Panther jersey.
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Jul 3, 2019 8:28:12 GMT
Farmer will be a big loss if this is true, which I have a sneaking feeling it is.
I think we'll be really kicking ourselves if he stays in the EIHL too.
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Post by iginla on Jul 3, 2019 8:30:50 GMT
Looks like a number of people on here have had their wish come true, asking for us to get rid of these 'poor' Brits. Now Lee, Farms and Gospel (2 of which were GB Internationals) have gone, lets see which better ones are available to replace them. Got to say I agree and I think social media and forums such as this are part of the problem. Players get slagged off left right and centre - some players will take this “appreciation” into account when looking at others offers. Every team has the social media thing going on though. Panthers is probably worse because they’re a big club that constantly underachieves. Let’s face it,Panthers have every advantage in UK hockey so fans expect them to deliver and rightly so,where as if you’re a fan of most EIHL teams the best you probably expect is to win your conference or perhaps get to a semi final.
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Post by texpef on Jul 3, 2019 8:33:25 GMT
Looks like a number of people on here have had their wish come true, asking for us to get rid of these 'poor' Brits. Now Lee, Farms and Gospel (2 of which were GB Internationals) have gone, lets see which better ones are available to replace them. Got to say I agree and I think social media and forums such as this are part of the problem. Players get slagged off left right and centre - some players will take this “appreciation” into account when looking at others offers. I think you were asked to provide evidence from here... very easy to just dismiss it as social media but that's a very different format to this forum.. As for Farmer unlike imho brits like lacho and lee you do get maximum effort pretty much whenever he is on the ice and that's something that would be missed along with his eye for goal and no nonsense attitude... I for one hope he doesn't leave...
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Post by Walitzer on Jul 3, 2019 8:35:23 GMT
Can you find any posts of people wanting rid of Farmer? Take a look at the Brits thread. Several people saying get rid of the lot, a couple saying if farmer leaves then they will not be too upset. I've read it, "wgray" suggests trading Farmer for Cairan Long and the highly serious, definitely not-a-troll acount "loupowell52" wants to nuke the brits from orbit, to which I provide a suitably sarcastic responce...
I see a lot of positive responces however, saying he will be hard to replace and that its worrying he hasn't been announced yet.
I think a lot of the frustration with our brits just comes from the disparity between their fantastic performances at the World Championships, to what we see on the regular.
Don't create more negativity than there already is. If Farmer is gone, the team is worse for it.
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Post by iginla on Jul 3, 2019 8:36:13 GMT
Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone to Coreys team. I like Robert Farmer,but if he does I really can’t see why on that move from either side ? Not exactly a big step up for Farms and surely there are better quality imports out there for Corey for similar money, especially considering the old Brit passport inflated wages in the EIHL.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jul 3, 2019 8:46:24 GMT
I don't know but if the Panthers organization weren't such an embarrassing money grabbing bunch of incompetents who regularly got boo'd off the ice last year then perhaps social media side would be a lot more rosy for them. I think that any player not choosing to come back would have a lot more to do with the holiday camp being run out of the NIC than anything written on social media.
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Post by dill1015 on Jul 3, 2019 8:49:36 GMT
It must do. But theres no smoke without fire. The amount of players who underperform for us is silly. Steve Lee is a great example, put him in a GB shirt and hes a different player. Im convinced theres a culture problem at the club. Its just too many players for it to just be them. Lachowicz worked twice as hard at the Worlds than I've seen him perform in years in a Panther jersey. Hes another prime example. If he went to another team his points would rocket up. You just know it.
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Post by Joe on Jul 3, 2019 8:50:19 GMT
It’d be a big loss for us but I do think he’s not been as good these last two seasons however that could be because of the environment in which he’s in
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Post by grrm on Jul 3, 2019 9:00:13 GMT
I don't know but if the Panthers organization weren't such an embarrassing money grabbing bunch of incompetents who regularly got boo'd off the ice last year then perhaps social media side would be a lot more rosy for them. I think that any player not choosing to come back would have a lot more to do with the holiday camp being run out of the NIC than anything written on social media. I’m gutted if he’s gone, it would be hard to replace him. You imply that players are not really effected by comments on social media. You’ve got to be very hard skinned not to be effected. Really! put yourself it that position, being called “useless, rubbish, crap” etc in public, where your wife, mum, dad, kids can see and read it - wow, that sure as hell would effect me!
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Post by Pies on Jul 3, 2019 9:04:07 GMT
We’ve always talked about the “culture of this club” and it’s toxicity. Maybe getting rid of everything about that and starting again is what we need. We can’t keep talking about wanting change, hate how the imports come here for a holiday etc and then act disappointed about that becoming reality. Our Brits drive that culture. They’re the ones in the dressing room who can tell them “this is my club, you come here and you’re not going to coast”
Lacho, Perlini,Ollie and Tets have become the core now. And whilst to some, that might seem bad, maybe we need to put that on their shoulders now. Do or die. No more excuses.
We’ve spent a long time pumping money into Brits paying them a premium to be here. Now, perhaps it’s time to put money in a higher class of imports, use the brits lower down the order and let Wallace and Doucet try something new.
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Post by Yotes on Jul 3, 2019 9:08:46 GMT
Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone to Coreys team. I like Robert Farmer,but if he does I really can’t see why on that move from either side ? Not exactly a big step up for Farms and surely there are better quality imports out there for Corey for similar money, especially considering the old Brit passport inflated wages in the EIHL. Experience life elsewhere, potential stepping stone to the DEL? I can see why you'd go. I seem to remember last time he signed he was quite pointed (for him) about wanting things to change on the ice, which they haven't really. Perhaps he just wants to go somewhere where they don't phone it in for half the season? If true, it's a big loss.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jul 3, 2019 9:10:34 GMT
I don't know but if the Panthers organization weren't such an embarrassing money grabbing bunch of incompetents who regularly got boo'd off the ice last year then perhaps social media side would be a lot more rosy for them. I think that any player not choosing to come back would have a lot more to do with the holiday camp being run out of the NIC than anything written on social media. I’m gutted if he’s gone, it would be hard to replace him. You imply that players are not really effected by comments on social media. You’ve got to be very hard skinned not to be effected. Really! put yourself it that position, being called “useless, rubbish, crap” etc in public, where your wife, mum, dad, kids can see and read it - wow, that sure as hell would effect me! If they were professional players then they would blame the organisation (who pays them) not the poor sods who actually pay to watch that cr@p week in week out. Ice Hockey in the UK is a tuppence ha'penny little sport. Just imagine what those delicate little ridiculously overpaid primadonna footballers have to put up with on social media. If you don't like what's written on social media put your smart phone away and get on with the job you are being paid for.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 9:18:18 GMT
I’ll put my hand up to being one of those who have had the temerity to ‘slag off’ and want rid of our lame Brits.
I will absolve the ‘young Brits’ from this scenario as they are finding their feet and starting out on the game we all love. What I do take exception to is highlighted in the previous posts about (for example) how they (Lacho, Lee et al) try for GB & not for the Panthers. They should be ashamed of themselves! 😡 As professional sportsmen (sic) they should ‘bust a gut’, ‘grow some’, ‘man up’ - whatever analogy you care to use and play for the shirt.
I’m fully aware we need Brits (cos them’s the rules), but there are Brits out there (Long, Davies etc) who are/were available IF Panthers could/can be bothered to make them offers they can’t refuse. Why do we have to put up with the same gang of lame Brits year on year? Quite simply the last few years none of them (in my opinion) warrant keeping.
Let the ‘new broom continue to sweep’ most (not enough) of last seasons deadwood have been shipped out (shame about Uni deals!), it (the on ice product) can’t get any worse.............can it?
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