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Post by cooperphil156 on Jul 2, 2019 20:53:35 GMT
Pither has signed for DHL 2 side Freiburg - the side coached by Pete Russell
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Post by Bagheera on Jul 2, 2019 21:18:35 GMT
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Post by BigLad on Jul 2, 2019 21:19:12 GMT
Great 1st year, disappointing 2nd in a very disappointing side.
Good luck to him.
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Post by Yotes on Jul 2, 2019 21:35:50 GMT
The Twitter set will be most upset about this. Had a very quiet 2nd season, some very long dry spells as I recall.
Good luck to him, but glad at the parting of ways personally.
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Post by iginla on Jul 2, 2019 22:02:33 GMT
Depends if your face fits that’s why.
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Post by Pies on Jul 3, 2019 5:37:54 GMT
Someone put a list of players on twitter who had more PPG than Pither.....and there were some shockers on there. A great first season and bang average the second. Whether he was a victim of circumstance, I don't know. I was a big advocate in him coming back last season, this year I'm not sad to see him go
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Post by Gilly on Jul 3, 2019 7:54:25 GMT
I liked Pither, always looking to get involved and create, even when things weren't going so well for him.
Just for some reason didn't have the same impact he had in the first season. No doubt will end up with 70 points this year in DEL2 in typical fashion...!
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Jul 3, 2019 8:30:36 GMT
If he'd kept up his production from his first year he'd have been a star and a no-brainer to bring back.
He just seemed to take too many penalties and go too long without contributing in his second season though, so probably good business to let him go. No hard feelings over him really, always got the feeling he trying and he cared it just never seemed to click for the majority of that second year.
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Post by bobness on Jul 4, 2019 15:07:21 GMT
If he'd kept up his production from his first year he'd have been a star and a no-brainer to bring back. He just seemed to take too many penalties and go too long without contributing in his second season though, so probably good business to let him go. No hard feelings over him really, always got the feeling he trying and he cared it just never seemed to click for the majority of that second year. One of only 4 Panthers to play every league game last year, Pither led the Panthers in minor penalties in 2018-19, with 24, 2 in front of Rissling, and 3 in front of Bolduc and Farmer. A Pither minor led to 26 PP opportunities for Panthers' opposition last season (22 5 on 4s and 4 5 on 3s) and an astonishing 9 PPGs were conceded on those penalties. Twice Pither put Panthers two men down when already one man down, and a goal was scored on both those 5 on 3s. Panthers PK with Pither in the box was 65.38%, overall it was 85.07%. So you could say he was key to the success of the PK, but took too many minors. Pither's longest pointless streak was 4 games (games 33-36, Boxing Day to NYE inclusive) but during games 33 to 50 (18 games) he only scored 4 points (2+2, all at even strength). Panthers PP in those 18 games was 4 for 55, 8.27%, less than half its season average. Overall, Pither had 19 PP points, only Hurtubise at 13 had double figures in the rest of the team. So you could say he was key to the PP as well.
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Post by texpef on Jul 4, 2019 15:14:02 GMT
If he'd kept up his production from his first year he'd have been a star and a no-brainer to bring back. He just seemed to take too many penalties and go too long without contributing in his second season though, so probably good business to let him go. No hard feelings over him really, always got the feeling he trying and he cared it just never seemed to click for the majority of that second year. One of only 4 Panthers to play every league game last year, Pither led the Panthers in minor penalties in 2018-19, with 24, 2 in front of Rissling, and 3 in front of Bolduc and Farmer. A Pither minor led to 26 PP opportunities for Panthers' opposition last season (22 5 on 4s and 4 5 on 3s) and an astonishing 9 PPGs were conceded on those penalties. Twice Pither put Panthers two men down when already one man down, and a goal was scored on both those 5 on 3s. Panthers PK with Pither in the box was 65.38%, overall it was 85.07%. So you could say he was key to the success of the PK, but took too many minors. Pither's longest pointless streak was 4 games (games 33-36, Boxing Day to NYE inclusive) but during games 33 to 50 (18 games) he only scored 4 points (2+2, all at even strength). Panthers PP in those 18 games was 4 for 55, 8.27%, less than half its season average. Overall, Pither had 19 PP points, only Hurtubise at 13 had double figures in the rest of the team. So you could say he was key to the PP as well. interesting stats Bob but there is nothing there to make me think he was essential to sign for the upcoming season that couldn't be found either better or cheaper elsewhere..
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Post by wgray on Jul 4, 2019 15:28:56 GMT
If he'd kept up his production from his first year he'd have been a star and a no-brainer to bring back. He just seemed to take too many penalties and go too long without contributing in his second season though, so probably good business to let him go. No hard feelings over him really, always got the feeling he trying and he cared it just never seemed to click for the majority of that second year. One of only 4 Panthers to play every league game last year, Pither led the Panthers in minor penalties in 2018-19, with 24, 2 in front of Rissling, and 3 in front of Bolduc and Farmer. A Pither minor led to 26 PP opportunities for Panthers' opposition last season (22 5 on 4s and 4 5 on 3s) and an astonishing 9 PPGs were conceded on those penalties. Twice Pither put Panthers two men down when already one man down, and a goal was scored on both those 5 on 3s. Panthers PK with Pither in the box was 65.38%, overall it was 85.07%. So you could say he was key to the success of the PK, but took too many minors. Pither's longest pointless streak was 4 games (games 33-36, Boxing Day to NYE inclusive) but during games 33 to 50 (18 games) he only scored 4 points (2+2, all at even strength). Panthers PP in those 18 games was 4 for 55, 8.27%, less than half its season average. Overall, Pither had 19 PP points, only Hurtubise at 13 had double figures in the rest of the team. So you could say he was key to the PP as well. Those are some very good statistics.
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Post by wgray on Jul 4, 2019 15:30:25 GMT
One of only 4 Panthers to play every league game last year, Pither led the Panthers in minor penalties in 2018-19, with 24, 2 in front of Rissling, and 3 in front of Bolduc and Farmer. A Pither minor led to 26 PP opportunities for Panthers' opposition last season (22 5 on 4s and 4 5 on 3s) and an astonishing 9 PPGs were conceded on those penalties. Twice Pither put Panthers two men down when already one man down, and a goal was scored on both those 5 on 3s. Panthers PK with Pither in the box was 65.38%, overall it was 85.07%. So you could say he was key to the success of the PK, but took too many minors. Pither's longest pointless streak was 4 games (games 33-36, Boxing Day to NYE inclusive) but during games 33 to 50 (18 games) he only scored 4 points (2+2, all at even strength). Panthers PP in those 18 games was 4 for 55, 8.27%, less than half its season average. Overall, Pither had 19 PP points, only Hurtubise at 13 had double figures in the rest of the team. So you could say he was key to the PP as well. interesting stats Bob but there is nothing there to make me think he was essential to sign for the upcoming season that couldn't be found either better or cheaper elsewhere.. To me it highlights the negative impact he had for us last season, which is a shame really after his first season.
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Post by bobness on Jul 4, 2019 16:00:22 GMT
To me, it suggests that he should've stayed out of the penalty box more, as it absolutely hurt the team when he was, and highlights the pretty one-dimensional PP Panthers had last year. Pither was on the ice for 23 of the 35 PP goals Panthers scored in the league last year. Hurtubise and Guptill were on for 21. All 3 were on together for 10 PPGs, and any 2 of the 3 for a further 12. Only 2 of the 35 PPGs were scored with none of the "big 3" on the ice. When they didn't fire, the PP didn't fire.
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