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Post by Yotes on May 3, 2019 11:34:53 GMT
If it was something new, without something old already hung around its neck, there'd be no issue.
Having your suspicions confirmed immediately about the iron grip of a certain aged journalist doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
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Post by iginla on May 3, 2019 12:56:05 GMT
If it was something new, without something old already hung around its neck, there'd be no issue. Having your suspicions confirmed immediately about the iron grip of a certain aged journalist doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Yep if it was somebody with some pedigree of a known no nonsense approach who we knew would stand their ground with management then confidence would be higher. Somebody like say Mike Blaisdell. But to pluck somebody like Doucet straight from playing, out of relative obscurity with no known experience of even coaching seems very very odd. And why Doucet though ? It just seems like they put some ex player names in a hat then drew one out and said ok he’ll do. He doesn’t seem a strong character,only even played half a season at Panthers,didn’t come or wasn’t asked back and wasn’t even a particular fan favourite. Just seems like a very convenient,quiet,easy going choice of somebody who won’t rock the boat to me !
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Post by bobness on May 3, 2019 16:53:45 GMT
If it was something new, without something old already hung around its neck, there'd be no issue. Having your suspicions confirmed immediately about the iron grip of a certain aged journalist doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Yep if it was somebody with some pedigree of a known no nonsense approach who we knew would stand their ground with management then confidence would be higher. Somebody like say Mike Blaisdell. But to pluck somebody like Doucet straight from playing, out of relative obscurity with no known experience of even coaching seems very very odd. And why Doucet though ? It just seems like they put some ex player names in a hat then drew one out and said ok he’ll do. He doesn’t seem a strong character,only even played half a season at Panthers,didn’t come or wasn’t asked back and wasn’t even a particular fan favourite. Just seems like a very convenient,quiet,easy going choice of somebody who won’t rock the boat to me ! What a strange post. So just because you didn't especially like him, he's an ex-player, only played half a season here, blah blah, Panthers must have just grabbed him off the street? How on earth can you anything about the process? Maybe GD wanted to make this next step, with a UK club, maybe putting his degrees (note plural, he has a Masters too) to use, maybe he's a different character manager to player, who else did they interview etc etc etc. Talk about glass isn't really there at all. Now I now why you don't go to games, what with that enormous chip, I bet you can barely stand up straight. How about we give him more than a fortnight in the job? Let him actually, I don't know, sign some players, get his feet under the table, set his stall out, God forbid let the team play a game or two, before we judge, eh?
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Post by iginla on May 3, 2019 17:53:50 GMT
Yep if it was somebody with some pedigree of a known no nonsense approach who we knew would stand their ground with management then confidence would be higher. Somebody like say Mike Blaisdell. But to pluck somebody like Doucet straight from playing, out of relative obscurity with no known experience of even coaching seems very very odd. And why Doucet though ? It just seems like they put some ex player names in a hat then drew one out and said ok he’ll do. He doesn’t seem a strong character,only even played half a season at Panthers,didn’t come or wasn’t asked back and wasn’t even a particular fan favourite. Just seems like a very convenient,quiet,easy going choice of somebody who won’t rock the boat to me ! What a strange post. So just because you didn't especially like him, he's an ex-player, only played half a season here, blah blah, Panthers must have just grabbed him off the street? How on earth can you anything about the process? Maybe GD wanted to make this next step, with a UK club, maybe putting his degrees (note plural, he has a Masters too) to use, maybe he's a different character manager to player, who else did they interview etc etc etc. Talk about glass isn't really there at all. Now I now why you don't go to games, what with that enormous chip, I bet you can barely stand up straight. How about we give him more than a fortnight in the job? Let him actually, I don't know, sign some players, get his feet under the table, set his stall out, God forbid let the team play a game or two, before we judge, eh? I didn’t dislike him as a player,he was good at putting the puck in the net,but there wasn’t much else there. Strange that Panthers either didn’t want him back or he didn’t want to come back though. But if you’re interviewing somebody for a directors role in any job and in essence presumably 3rd in command in the Panthers hierarchy,I would have thought that some very good solid experience in that sort of job would normally be required. We shall see.
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Post by oldman on May 3, 2019 19:01:33 GMT
What a strange post. So just because you didn't especially like him, he's an ex-player, only played half a season here, blah blah, Panthers must have just grabbed him off the street? How on earth can you anything about the process? Maybe GD wanted to make this next step, with a UK club, maybe putting his degrees (note plural, he has a Masters too) to use, maybe he's a different character manager to player, who else did they interview etc etc etc. Talk about glass isn't really there at all. Now I now why you don't go to games, what with that enormous chip, I bet you can barely stand up straight. How about we give him more than a fortnight in the job? Let him actually, I don't know, sign some players, get his feet under the table, set his stall out, God forbid let the team play a game or two, before we judge, eh? I didn’t dislike him as a player,he was good at putting the puck in the net,but there wasn’t much else there. Strange that Panthers either didn’t want him back or he didn’t want to come back though. But if you’re interviewing somebody for a directors role in any job and in essence presumably 3rd in command in the Panthers hierarchy,I would have thought that some very good solid experience in that sort of job would normally be required. We shall see. Christ you never alter i know of many coaches in a few sports who were mediocre players but great coaches and i know many great players who were crap at coaching and managing one thing does not correlate to the other, you must go through life with a permanent black cloud over your head, everything panthers related you moan about which in my opinion is unhealthy and actually totally unrealistic, its only May and you want to write off next season and any chance of this new guy succeeding at all. Not being picky but if as you say you dont go to any games why do you care? You are not paying to watch it.
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Post by iginla on May 3, 2019 19:42:39 GMT
I didn’t dislike him as a player,he was good at putting the puck in the net,but there wasn’t much else there. Strange that Panthers either didn’t want him back or he didn’t want to come back though. But if you’re interviewing somebody for a directors role in any job and in essence presumably 3rd in command in the Panthers hierarchy,I would have thought that some very good solid experience in that sort of job would normally be required. We shall see. Christ you never alter i know of many coaches in a few sports who were mediocre players but great coaches and i know many great players who were crap at coaching and managing one thing does not correlate to the other, you must go through life with a permanent black cloud over your head, everything panthers related you moan about which in my opinion is unhealthy and actually totally unrealistic, its only May and you want to write off next season and any chance of this new guy succeeding at all. Not being picky but if as you say you dont go to any games why do you care? You are not paying to watch it. Just Panthers that I’m negative about,thoroughly disillusioned,that’s why I don’t bother going anymore. Because for 20 years I’ve seen them make mistake after cheap mistake yet never learn the lesson. If they change their ways I’ll go back again but until then not a chance. I’ve said why I think it’s a duff appointment,nobody likes my view but nobody’s saying why it’s such a great move, there’s nothing to base it on, no track record,It’s a chance a risky one and very much an unknown quantity. I’d have hoped Panthers were bigger and better than taking that easy lazy looking risk. We’ll see,i’m out.
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Post by jd on May 3, 2019 20:12:07 GMT
Christ you never alter i know of many coaches in a few sports who were mediocre players but great coaches and i know many great players who were crap at coaching and managing one thing does not correlate to the other, you must go through life with a permanent black cloud over your head, everything panthers related you moan about which in my opinion is unhealthy and actually totally unrealistic, its only May and you want to write off next season and any chance of this new guy succeeding at all. Not being picky but if as you say you dont go to any games why do you care? You are not paying to watch it. Just Panthers that I’m negative about,thoroughly disillusioned,that’s why I don’t bother going anymore. Because for 20 years I’ve seen them make mistake after cheap mistake yet never learn the lesson. If they change their ways I’ll go back again but until then not a chance. I’ve said why I think it’s a duff appointment,nobody likes my view but nobody’s saying why it’s such a great move, there’s nothing to base it on, no track record,It’s a chance a risky one and very much an unknown quantity. I’d have hoped Panthers were bigger and better than taking that easy lazy looking risk. We’ll see,i’m out. Just panthers you are negative about?! Behave How is it an easy lazy risk? Surely it’s the opposite?
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Post by Joe on May 3, 2019 20:38:03 GMT
Just Panthers that I’m negative about,thoroughly disillusioned,that’s why I don’t bother going anymore. Because for 20 years I’ve seen them make mistake after cheap mistake yet never learn the lesson. If they change their ways I’ll go back again but until then not a chance. I’ve said why I think it’s a duff appointment,nobody likes my view but nobody’s saying why it’s such a great move, there’s nothing to base it on, no track record,It’s a chance a risky one and very much an unknown quantity. I’d have hoped Panthers were bigger and better than taking that easy lazy looking risk. We’ll see,i’m out. Just panthers you are negative about?! Behave How is it an easy lazy risk? Surely it’s the opposite? it is an easy and lazy risk to him because he doesn’t acknowledge anything that doesn’t feed his negative Panthers agenda. Yes he doesn’t have any experience in the role but what if Black wanted a DOH that has been recently successful in this league and recent experience of the league and Panthers which to me is something I’d like in a DOH. That criteria pretty much means you’d have a rookie DOH but I think the recent experience of the league certainly goes towards making up for the lack of experience in the role.
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Post by oldman on May 3, 2019 21:53:10 GMT
Christ you never alter i know of many coaches in a few sports who were mediocre players but great coaches and i know many great players who were crap at coaching and managing one thing does not correlate to the other, you must go through life with a permanent black cloud over your head, everything panthers related you moan about which in my opinion is unhealthy and actually totally unrealistic, its only May and you want to write off next season and any chance of this new guy succeeding at all. Not being picky but if as you say you dont go to any games why do you care? You are not paying to watch it. Just Panthers that I’m negative about,thoroughly disillusioned,that’s why I don’t bother going anymore. Because for 20 years I’ve seen them make mistake after cheap mistake yet never learn the lesson. If they change their ways I’ll go back again but until then not a chance. I’ve said why I think it’s a duff appointment,nobody likes my view but nobody’s saying why it’s such a great move, there’s nothing to base it on, no track record,It’s a chance a risky one and very much an unknown quantity. I’d have hoped Panthers were bigger and better than taking that easy lazy looking risk. We’ll see,i’m out. nobody is saying why its a great move because its only may and nobody other than a brilliant fortune teller would have a clue the clever idea i feel is to wait and see , ljudge it when we have evidence to form an opinion, and thinking about it i must have watched them for the same twenty years and suffered the same frustrations but i always regard each season as a new start rather than expect it to be crap from the start guess we cant all be the same
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Post by spik on May 4, 2019 16:46:58 GMT
I'd like to look at it this way, if I may? People not so excited about the DOH (at the moment) will also 'wait and see' but presently feel that it's not as great a move with either a) the personnel chosen, or b) the fact that the old influence is still there. But still attending games or not, are as actively interested to see the 'best' for the club because they like the sport. I bet GB lost today and some will be fueling the fires of 'oh we're going to get hammered'. But I don't care, the team have done us proud, will be trying and history is being made. The difference with our club is that it's been a long haul not achieving what we could have been doing so there is disillusionment. This recent change does not inspire everyone. Yet....I'm not a coach , Dan Ceman is.
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Post by bobness on May 4, 2019 18:26:08 GMT
Just Panthers that I’m negative about,thoroughly disillusioned,that’s why I don’t bother going anymore. Because for 20 years I’ve seen them make mistake after cheap mistake yet never learn the lesson. If they change their ways I’ll go back again but until then not a chance. I’ve said why I think it’s a duff appointment,nobody likes my view but nobody’s saying why it’s such a great move, there’s nothing to base it on, no track record,It’s a chance a risky one and very much an unknown quantity. I’d have hoped Panthers were bigger and better than taking that easy lazy looking risk. We’ll see,i’m out. Just panthers you are negative about?! Behave How is it an easy lazy risk? Surely it’s the opposite? The "lazy" appointment would be a certain ex back up goalie? At least to recruit the players for next season we appear to have an only very recent actual player, who clearly knows lots of players and has played with lots of players that are around the standard we need. Also, a man with a higher degree, so clearly no knuckle dragging bozo. If he doesn't have some decent contacts and nous, I'd be very surprised. FWIW, I like the appointment. No-one can accuse the club of "jobs for the boys" at the very least. "Changing their ways" indeed. (or not, if you can't even see the glass, and just guess it's empty...) How "good" he is remains to be seen, but no-one knows that yet.
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Post by grrm on May 25, 2019 8:44:42 GMT
Was kinda hoping we would have heard a little more from Gui than we have. I don't do Twitter or Facebook so I might have missed something there, but as far as I can see on the Panthers website, his last communication was on the 8th May about the coach position, when he said "I'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO A FEW VERY GOOD CANDIDATES" - then nothing for over two weeks.
I'm sure he's working hard, but it would be great to hear from him a little more.
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Post by Carnell on May 28, 2019 6:55:06 GMT
It has been a little too quiet for me, especially with a ST deadline coming up, would have thought they would have announced a couple more signings. The only noise we have had so far is sponsorship news
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Post by Discoray on May 28, 2019 9:26:43 GMT
It has been a little too quiet for me, especially with a ST deadline coming up, would have thought they would have announced a couple more signings. The only noise we have had so far is sponsorship news If Doucet is indeed his own man, that means he’ll run things best to his plans and timetable, not what’s best for PR or ticket sales.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on May 28, 2019 9:37:49 GMT
It has been a little too quiet for me, especially with a ST deadline coming up, would have thought they would have announced a couple more signings. The only noise we have had so far is sponsorship news If Doucet is indeed his own man, that means he’ll run things best to his plans and timetable, not what’s best for PR or ticket sales. A little tear came to GM's eye when you posted that
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Post by iginla on May 28, 2019 9:54:59 GMT
It has been a little too quiet for me, especially with a ST deadline coming up, would have thought they would have announced a couple more signings. The only noise we have had so far is sponsorship news If Doucet is indeed his own man, that means he’ll run things best to his plans and timetable, not what’s best for PR or ticket sales. I feel an extended ST deadline date coming ! 🤣
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 10:30:28 GMT
I bet current sales are well down 😂😂😂
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Post by PantherG on May 28, 2019 18:59:16 GMT
I got an email asking why I hadn’t renewed, quite enjoyed providing my feedback.
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Post by spik on May 28, 2019 19:05:11 GMT
I got an email asking why I hadn’t renewed, quite enjoyed providing my feedback. Oh, tell us more?
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Post by iginla on May 28, 2019 19:18:45 GMT
I got an email asking why I hadn’t renewed, quite enjoyed providing my feedback. Oooh wish I’d had one,would have had some fun with that. They must be struggling,I didn’t get one last year.
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Post by John Casey on May 28, 2019 20:36:04 GMT
I got an email asking why I hadn’t renewed, quite enjoyed providing my feedback. TBH, it isn't the worst idea, if the answers are what I think they are, then maybe it'll make them pay more attention.
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Post by EMB on May 28, 2019 21:58:07 GMT
It’s not the first year they’ve sent these emails out, these have been done for the last 8yrs or so, someone on our row was going to Uni and didn’t renew and they had an email . Would love to know what PantherG put..lol
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Post by Bagheera on May 28, 2019 22:14:31 GMT
It’s not the first year they’ve sent these emails out, these have been done for the last 8yrs or so, someone on our row was going to Uni and didn’t renew and they had an email . Would love to know what PantherG put..lol Yeah, I remember 8 0r 9 years ago. I didn't renew as I was going to South Africa for 3 months during the season. Back then it was a phone call asking why. I believe it was actually one of the Black kids. Has been standard practice for a long time.
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Post by wgray on May 28, 2019 23:08:44 GMT
They’ve got until Friday to give us a positive announcement otherwise there will be four more not being renewed, unless they extend the early bird deadline.
How can they ask us to commit to a product that has been really poor for the last three seasons, without giving us any information on who is going to be coaching the team, with only four bit-part players announced and just over two months to sign at least 19 players?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 11:08:41 GMT
They’ve got until Friday to give us a positive announcement otherwise there will be four more not being renewed, unless they extend the early bird deadline. How can they ask us to commit to a product that has been really poor for the last three seasons, without giving us any information on who is going to be coaching the team, with only four bit-part players announced and just over two months to sign at least 19 players? That's not a issue.. Mike Blaisdell signed his 2001/2 Steelers roster in 6 weeks and ended up winning the playoffs. It's not hard as long as you have a good scouting network but unfortunately I dont believe the powers that be at Panthers know what they are doing
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