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Post by panthersnation on Mar 19, 2019 9:32:16 GMT
As the end of the season is now fast approaching and rumours are starting to float around. Thought I’d make this thread so they can all be posted in one thread.
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Post by PantherB on Mar 19, 2019 10:28:20 GMT
Saw a rumour earlier that Dowd could be looking at his options away from Sheffield, however, I highly doubt that. Would make a good replacement for Lachowicz mind.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 11:15:31 GMT
Saw a rumour earlier that Dowd could be looking at his options away from Sheffield, however, I highly doubt that. Would make a good replacement for Lachowicz mind. Lachowicz! I'd take Dowd over any of our lame Brits.
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Post by PantherB on Mar 19, 2019 11:32:42 GMT
Saw a rumour earlier that Dowd could be looking at his options away from Sheffield, however, I highly doubt that. Would make a good replacement for Lachowicz mind. Lachowicz! I'd take Dowd over any of our lame Brits. If Farmer and Perlini play consistently over the season then personally I find them just as if not more valuable than Dowd but that's more than likely me being bias. I'm slightly concerned about the u23 rule going into the coming season, Betteridge will no longer fit into the u23 rule criteria so unless we swap one of our Brits for an u23 we'll be playing at least 1 short every game. I could be wrong though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 11:49:48 GMT
Let's cut the crap.. hands down Dowd is the best brit forward by miles .. if he's available which I believe Smith won't meet his new demands any team would be crazy not to be interested ! It's that simple and Panthers have never replaced Clarkes goals and while Perlini is a decent player he will never be a 30 goal scorer
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Post by Walitzer on Mar 19, 2019 12:30:56 GMT
Let's cut the crap.. hands down Dowd is the best brit forward by miles .. if he's available which I believe Smith won't meet his new demands any team would be crazy not to be interested ! It's that simple and Panthers have never replaced Clarkes goals and while Perlini is a decent player he will never be a 30 goal scorer It could be argued that he is the best offensive British forward, I agree, all EIHL teams should be interested.
But if what you say is true, and he's too expensive for Sheffield, why would he be worth it to us?
What kind of import could you get for his wages?
If his demands are so high, what precedent will that set at the Panthers? Sign 30 year old Dowd in at a high wage, we have Farmer and Perlini who are of a similar quality in the roster, will they now want wage renegotiations?
How many years does he have left in him? I seem to remember he's spent a fair amount of time in the treatment room over the past few seasons.
I don't think it is that simple and Dowd has only had a 30 goal season once, 8 years ago...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 12:40:20 GMT
It's all down to what budget each owner sets. I think Smith is probably getting very cautious with his. Dowd is a game changer. Panthers would be very naive not to pursue him if they thought he would come . I'd even sacrifice both Lacho and Lee's wages as well .
In May GB will be look for Dowds offence more than anyone else's if we are to stay up
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Post by SteelerBlade on Mar 19, 2019 13:35:17 GMT
Was a Steelers 1991 rumour though..
His success rate is very poor when it comes to these things, he certainly enjoys the limelight lol 😂
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 13:41:38 GMT
Was a Steelers 1991 rumour though.. His success rate is very poor when it comes to these things, he certainly enjoys the limelight lol 😂 Yeah he is certainly a strange person especially on Twitter... but I didn't hear this from him/her I heard it from a different Steelers fan who has somewhat a better success rate ...
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Post by SteelerBlade on Mar 19, 2019 13:50:11 GMT
Was a Steelers 1991 rumour though.. His success rate is very poor when it comes to these things, he certainly enjoys the limelight lol 😂 Yeah he is certainly a strange person especially on Twitter... but I didn't hear this from him/her I heard it from a different Steelers fan who has somewhat a better success rate ... Ah I see, I'm more inclined to beleive if it isn't from him 😂
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Post by Walitzer on Mar 19, 2019 14:24:55 GMT
It's all down to what budget each owner sets. I think Smith is probably getting very cautious with his. Dowd is a game changer. Panthers would be very naive not to pursue him if they thought he would come . I'd even sacrifice both Lacho and Lee's wages as well . In May GB will be look for Dowds offence more than anyone else's if we are to stay up Having a large budget shouldn't make you care less about whether the money is being spent efficiently, else your advantage is nullified.
We have 6 British players entering the 2019-20 season, so we should release Lachowicz anyway, now Panthers need to do an analysis of what Dowd brings, at what price, compared to Lee/Farmer/Perlini. Without the financials I can't make that call.
If the difference is that for the same cost as Dowd you could have Lee and improve the quality of an import. Maybe its not such an easy decision.
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Post by Carnell on Mar 19, 2019 14:48:11 GMT
Let's cut the crap.. hands down Dowd is the best brit forward by miles .. if he's available which I believe Smith won't meet his new demands any team would be crazy not to be interested ! It's that simple and Panthers have never replaced Clarkes goals and while Perlini is a decent player he will never be a 30 goal scorer Clarke last had a 30 goal season back in 2011/12, incidentally the same season Dowd last got 30 goals. If you look back there isn't that many players who break the 30 goals a season marker now, having deeper rosters, means your TOI is reduced. Last time Clarke & Dowd broke the 30 goals marker, there was another 10 players that also reached that number. Since then in the following years, we have had 8, 6, 4, 1, 2, and 6 last year that had 30 or more goals. This year we have 6 players that have hit the 30 mark this season (so far). Whilst I agree Dowd is a very good forward, if it was a toss up between keeping Perlini or releasing him for Dowd, I'd stick with Perlini. Dowd has had plenty of injury issues these past few seasons and he's a couple of years older.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Mar 19, 2019 16:00:36 GMT
In a league where you MUST have British players on your roster getting Dowd in should be a no brainier, we’ve got the cash, we simple retain Perlini, Farmer, Ollie and Lee as our senior Brits and keep our U23’s as well and bring Dowd in alongside them, he’s certainly import standard and it hits the quota. Then bring back a selection of imports from this season (Stewart Pither Guptil Henderson Lepine Bolduc Hughes Olsen Rissling Munson) and bring in 5 other top end imports a Ling, Jade, DAB and Fox and Galbraith (goalie) one goalie dresses with same as back up or dress both and run a spare Import say and it’s party time! An expensive party I’ll admit but hey the club would make it back in ticket revenue, sponsorships and Merchandise.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 16:24:59 GMT
Let's cut the crap.. hands down Dowd is the best brit forward by miles .. if he's available which I believe Smith won't meet his new demands any team would be crazy not to be interested ! It's that simple and Panthers have never replaced Clarkes goals and while Perlini is a decent player he will never be a 30 goal scorer Clarke last had a 30 goal season back in 2011/12, incidentally the same season Dowd last got 30 goals. If you look back there isn't that many players who break the 30 goals a season marker now, having deeper rosters, means your TOI is reduced. Last time Clarke & Dowd broke the 30 goals marker, there was another 10 players that also reached that number. Since then in the following years, we have had 8, 6, 4, 1, 2, and 6 last year that had 30 or more goals. This year we have 6 players that have hit the 30 mark this season (so far). Whilst I agree Dowd is a very good forward, if it was a toss up between keeping Perlini or releasing him for Dowd, I'd stick with Perlini. Dowd has had plenty of injury issues these past few seasons and he's a couple of years older. A team with Panthers resources should be able to finance deals for Perlini AND Dowd
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Post by Walitzer on Mar 19, 2019 17:24:55 GMT
In a league where you MUST have British players on your roster getting Dowd in should be a no brainier, we’ve got the cash, we simple retain Perlini, Farmer, Ollie and Lee as our senior Brits and keep our U23’s as well and bring Dowd in alongside them, he’s certainly import standard and it hits the quota. Then bring back a selection of imports from this season (Stewart Pither Guptil Henderson Lepine Bolduc Hughes Olsen Rissling Munson) and bring in 5 other top end imports a Ling, Jade, DAB and Fox and Galbraith (goalie) one goalie dresses with same as back up or dress both and run a spare Import say and it’s party time! An expensive party I’ll admit but hey the club would make it back in ticket revenue, sponsorships and Merchandise. We already have British players, Perlini/Farmer/Betteridge/Lee/Gospel, we don't NEED Dowd if he chooses to price himself out of the market.
Play Gospel as backup and you can have another import forward, equal to or better than Dowd.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 17:27:32 GMT
Out of interest if Sheffield felt they could afford to lose Dowd then who are they signing to replace him? Their Brit forwards aren't exactly a powerhouse so if they were happy to let Dowd go then they much have a decent Brit lined up from elsewhere.
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Post by SteelerBlade on Mar 19, 2019 17:49:33 GMT
Out of interest if Sheffield felt they could afford to lose Dowd then who are they signing to replace him? Their Brit forwards aren't exactly a powerhouse so if they were happy to let Dowd go then they much have a decent Brit lined up from elsewhere. Guess Long is the natural replacement if true? Only reason I can think Tony Smith won’t give him a pay rise is that his body struggles to take a whole season and he’s often sidelined for extended periods. Not many better Brit forwards (if any?) when fully fit though.
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Post by iginla on Mar 19, 2019 19:50:26 GMT
Out of interest if Sheffield felt they could afford to lose Dowd then who are they signing to replace him? Their Brit forwards aren't exactly a powerhouse so if they were happy to let Dowd go then they much have a decent Brit lined up from elsewhere. Guess Long is the natural replacement if true? Only reason I can think Tony Smith won’t give him a pay rise is that his body struggles to take a whole season and he’s often sidelined for extended periods. Not many better Brit forwards (if any?) when fully fit though. Nobody better on the Brit front,but considering the money Dowds on and the fact he’s made of glass he’s got to be the worst value for money player in the league.
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Post by SteelerBlade on Mar 19, 2019 20:27:49 GMT
Guess Long is the natural replacement if true? Only reason I can think Tony Smith won’t give him a pay rise is that his body struggles to take a whole season and he’s often sidelined for extended periods. Not many better Brit forwards (if any?) when fully fit though. Nobody better on the Brit front,but considering the money Dowds on and the fact he’s made of glass he’s got to be the worst value for money player in the league. Yeah he always seems to have an annual six week layoff.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Mar 19, 2019 21:33:52 GMT
Depends whether Dowd can outscore Lacho in the ‘General Knowledge’ round as to whether we make an offer or not.
If he can’t tell you which year Waterloo took place or who was Christmas number 1 in 2006, he’s got no place in a Panthers jersey.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 27, 2019 20:50:05 GMT
Out of interest if Sheffield felt they could afford to lose Dowd then who are they signing to replace him? Their Brit forwards aren't exactly a powerhouse so if they were happy to let Dowd go then they much have a decent Brit lined up from elsewhere. A thing to consider. It wasn't just the worst Steelers team in the EIHL era, it was the cheapest too.
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Post by wgray on Mar 27, 2019 21:14:56 GMT
Out of interest if Sheffield felt they could afford to lose Dowd then who are they signing to replace him? Their Brit forwards aren't exactly a powerhouse so if they were happy to let Dowd go then they much have a decent Brit lined up from elsewhere. A thing to consider. It wasn't just the worst Steelers team in the EIHL era, it was the cheapest too. Not according to Tony Smith?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 27, 2019 22:43:37 GMT
A thing to consider. It wasn't just the worst Steelers team in the EIHL era, it was the cheapest too. Not according to Tony Smith? Can't be much of a businessman then can he. Whistle is one of the highest paid Brits in the league but against the team that had the likes of Fretter and Roy etc I don't believe that for a moment. Chris Lawrence one one of their first signings this "rebuilding" year.
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Post by wgray on Mar 27, 2019 23:14:06 GMT
Not according to Tony Smith? Can't be much of a businessman then can he. Whistle is one of the highest paid Brits in the league but against the team that had the likes of Fretter and Roy etc I don't believe that for a moment. Chris Lawrence one one of their first signings this "rebuilding" year. They obviously paid over odds in the first place for some very poor players and look at their turnover of players this season. He’s spent a lot of money trying to rectify Thompson’s recruitment, that’s according to discussion on Steeltalk and from Smith’s interviews in the media anyway.
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Post by iginla on Mar 27, 2019 23:42:50 GMT
Not according to Tony Smith? Can't be much of a businessman then can he. Whistle is one of the highest paid Brits in the league but against the team that had the likes of Fretter and Roy etc I don't believe that for a moment. Chris Lawrence one one of their first signings this "rebuilding" year. O’Connor and Dowd = Lots of cash = plenty of cheaper imports to balance the books.
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