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Post by cooperphil156 on Mar 10, 2019 6:25:21 GMT
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Post by bobness on Mar 10, 2019 9:17:23 GMT
Change of career as a second division parcel deliverer?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 9:20:45 GMT
Good for him
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Post by iginla on Mar 10, 2019 9:37:46 GMT
5th again... You have to give him credit,he’s very consistent ! 🤣🤣
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 9:48:21 GMT
He must like the number 😂 bit bizarre a team who's fifth gets coach of the year irrespective of what was expected of the team
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Post by bobness on Mar 10, 2019 9:54:53 GMT
5th again... You have to give him credit,he’s very consistent ! 🤣🤣 Well, no he isn't. Panthers only finished 5th in the EIHL once under his coaching, in 2015-16. They ended up fourth six times though...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 10:00:08 GMT
5th again... You have to give him credit,he’s very consistent ! 🤣🤣 Well, no he isn't. Panthers only finished 5th in the EIHL once under his coaching, in 2015-16. They ended up fourth six times though... Still consistent then consistently crap 🙄
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Post by kezypanther on Mar 10, 2019 10:48:14 GMT
take It those that just see “oh he’s 5th” haven’t looked at the rest of the table. I’ve been keeping up with him just to see how he does and he’s been battling at the top almost the whole season in his first year! Only 5 points off top. How anyone can try discredit him is beyond me.
Fair play to him, hopefully he has a great career.
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Post by DonClaneone on Mar 10, 2019 10:56:19 GMT
Awards are pointless as they don't really reward the best or other achievements, take for example in the 2010/11 season.
Danny Stewart got Coach of The Year, and the only reason he got it was because the Vipers went bust. Bruce Richardson would have been more deserving after getting Braehead to 5th in their 1st season in the league but instead they gave it to Stewart out of sympathy which IMO was pathetic.
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 10, 2019 11:28:01 GMT
He must like the number 😂 bit bizarre a team who's fifth gets coach of the year irrespective of what was expected of the team A football example, but George Burley got manager of the year 2000-01 when he guided Ipswich Town to 5th place in the premier league.
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Post by iginla on Mar 10, 2019 11:31:02 GMT
Didn’t Doug Christiansen get EIHL coach of the year in one season for Edinburgh Caps finishing 6th ?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 10, 2019 12:19:22 GMT
Just goes to show what can happen when you coach a sports team rather than an entertainment business. Can't help feeling pleased for him and hope things get better and better for him.
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Post by dill1015 on Mar 10, 2019 16:05:25 GMT
Corey was never as bad as many on here would like him to be. I just think he went by his sell by date in this league. Others worked him out, and his recruitment got abit questionable. But you dont win that much silverware if you dont know anything. Well done Corey.
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Post by Mark on Mar 10, 2019 16:57:41 GMT
Does beg the question regarding the league title here, were others at the club holding Neilson back?
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Post by PantherB on Mar 10, 2019 17:14:36 GMT
Lausitzer went on a bit of a bad run in their closing few games so to put into better context, their finishing position of 5th.. They were tied 4th and 1pt from 2nd. 5pts off top.
If they'd won a couple more games or gotten a couple more points from OT's then they'd have either finished second or finished 1st. Which for their team is remarkable and for them to finish 5th is unlucky and does not tell the full story, as many haters of Corey would wish it did.
Even if he did finish 5th, they don't play for the league over there and he broke pretty much every expectation the team and league had of him. If people can't be happy for him or still want to criticise him then good god.
Long may Corey's success continue.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 10, 2019 17:31:26 GMT
What's the setup over there? Does he have a proper GM above him doing the hiring and firing, is he 'just' a coach?
Good on him anyway, can't see any reason for ill will.
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Post by shinobi on Mar 10, 2019 17:46:03 GMT
Well played to him; I still think it was right for him & the club to go their separate ways, irrespective as to how it ended with his replacement during this season.
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Post by grumpy on Mar 11, 2019 13:34:24 GMT
I really don`t understand some of the snide comments on here. He has taken a team of youngsters, of whom little was expected, and got them within five points of the league leaders - and still the playoffs to come. He is, and always has been, a good coach. The problem with Panthers has been, and remains, a failure to recruit players who understand that the priority in The EIHL is winning the league, and it has never been clear how much of a free hand was given to Corey in that regard. On his own admission, motivating players was not his strength, we have prospered when we had leaders on the ice and in the dressing room and that should be key in recruitment.
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Post by iginla on Mar 11, 2019 18:04:23 GMT
I really don`t understand some of the snide comments on here. He has taken a team of youngsters, of whom little was expected, and got them within five points of the league leaders - and still the playoffs to come. He is, and always has been, a good coach. The problem with Panthers has been, and remains, a failure to recruit players who understand that the priority in The EIHL is winning the league, and it has never been clear how much of a free hand was given to Corey in that regard. On his own admission, motivating players was not his strength, we have prospered when we had leaders on the ice and in the dressing room and that should be key in recruitment. Youngsters ? How old do you have to be to still be a youngster these days....they had SIXTEEN players who were aged over 25. And Löwen Frankfurt who finished 1st had an average age of almost 25 exactly the same as Lausitzer.
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Post by keefe a.k.a Donk on Mar 11, 2019 19:47:37 GMT
Corey had the smallest budget in the league, and has more than over achieved in a league that is easily a match for the EIHL. He’s also had to deal with Berlin constantly dipping into his roster, causing Corey more challenges. He’s done more than anyone expected, and for that he certainly deserved the coach of the year award. I think people forget that Corey was basically a rookie coach when he took on the panthers job. And he’s achieved a lot in his years as coach. People seriously need to get over the whole Corey thing. He’s moved on, maybe panthers fans should too. The club owe Corey a lot, the least we can do is leave the man alone to follow his career how he wants too.
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Post by shelly on Mar 11, 2019 19:50:33 GMT
I really don`t understand some of the snide comments on here. He has taken a team of youngsters, of whom little was expected, and got them within five points of the league leaders - and still the playoffs to come. He is, and always has been, a good coach. The problem with Panthers has been, and remains, a failure to recruit players who understand that the priority in The EIHL is winning the league, and it has never been clear how much of a free hand was given to Corey in that regard. On his own admission, motivating players was not his strength, we have prospered when we had leaders on the ice and in the dressing room and that should be key in recruitment. Youngsters ? How old do you have to be to still be a youngster these days....they had SIXTEEN players who were aged over 25. And Löwen Frankfurt who finished 1st had an average age of almost 25 exactly the same as Lausitzer. Frankfurt has one of the highest budgets in the league, Corey had by far the smallest by a country mile! Why can’t you give the man some credit for a change? He wasn’t expected to finish above last place, a week before the season finished he was sat in 1st position, it was other results going against him and losing 2 games that made him finish 5th... there was 5 points separating 1st and 5th... please tell me how that is not one hell of an achievement and doesn’t deserve coach of the year?
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Post by iginla on Mar 11, 2019 21:16:09 GMT
Youngsters ? How old do you have to be to still be a youngster these days....they had SIXTEEN players who were aged over 25. And Löwen Frankfurt who finished 1st had an average age of almost 25 exactly the same as Lausitzer. Frankfurt has one of the highest budgets in the league, Corey had by far the smallest by a country mile! Why can’t you give the man some credit for a change? He wasn’t expected to finish above last place, a week before the season finished he was sat in 1st position, it was other results going against him and losing 2 games that made him finish 5th... there was 5 points separating 1st and 5th... please tell me how that is not one hell of an achievement and doesn’t deserve coach of the year? And when he was at Panthers with arguably the biggest budget and seemingly every conceivable advantage over anybody else in the EIHL and he kept finishing 4th or 5th.... What excuse are we going to make for 90% of all those years. I suppose we could always blame those other damn teams for winning and other results going against us i guess,even if we were in first place in mid December ! 🙄
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Post by meadow on Mar 12, 2019 1:10:10 GMT
Just goes to show what can happen when you coach a sports team rather than an entertainment business. Can't help feeling pleased for him and hope things get better and better for him. Can't emphasise this enough. DEL2, at least partially, has a role a development league and a development league for an established and well paid european league. I'd imagine if you've got a team of younger players, they don't need much of a carrot put in front of them by the coach as they know that they are playing for jobs in the big league - goes well with Corey's preference for the teaching side of things, which is why I'd imagine he's had success there. Motivating a 35 year old, '10 games in the NHL' guy on his last pro-hockey hurrah, who's been brought in to sell a few tickets on the proviso that he can have a few jollies to London and Dublin in-between games is an entirely different ball game!
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Post by shelly on Mar 12, 2019 10:25:53 GMT
Frankfurt has one of the highest budgets in the league, Corey had by far the smallest by a country mile! Why can’t you give the man some credit for a change? He wasn’t expected to finish above last place, a week before the season finished he was sat in 1st position, it was other results going against him and losing 2 games that made him finish 5th... there was 5 points separating 1st and 5th... please tell me how that is not one hell of an achievement and doesn’t deserve coach of the year? And when he was at Panthers with arguably the biggest budget and seemingly every conceivable advantage over anybody else in the EIHL and he kept finishing 4th or 5th.... What excuse are we going to make for 90% of all those years. I suppose we could always blame those other damn teams for winning and other results going against us i guess,even if we were in first place in mid December ! 🙄 Wow my mistake! I didn’t realize you were so au fait with the panthers budget! I must speak to you in future before responding!
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Mar 12, 2019 10:32:36 GMT
Also bear in mind, the objective in the DEL2 is to win the playoffs. Chernomaz's DEL win in 2004 came with his side finishing mid-table. It's sometimes easy to forget the EIHL is an oddity in this regard, it was also one of the criticisms leveled at the league by Jamtin who felt it was confusing as what trophy was the most important Notwithstanding, his side finished what? a point off top spot after losing 2 out of their final 3. That's hardly mid-table coasting as we were stuck with. As has been said, Corey's departure was right for both parties and I'm glad that it's worked out for at least one of us. But the time was right.
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