Shaggy
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Jun 6, 2019 23:20:12 GMT
Post by Shaggy on Jun 6, 2019 23:20:12 GMT
Corrected for you... I hope you are correct but I don’t see a logical reason for not announcing them especially when the club bang on about announcing as soon as the ink is dry I can think of two possible reasons (and there are probably more... no omniscience here! ):- 1 - Doucet hasn't signed anyone because he was waiting until he'd got a coach, and Wallace hasn't signed anyone yet. All is as it appears... zip, zilch, zero, nothing, nada. 2 - Doucet HAS made several signings - probably mainly the Brits - but they are delaying any announcements for a while so as not to make it look as if Wallace was completely bypassed. A bit of face-saving PR. Total <bovine excrement> of course, but given the fact that whatever the Panthers do they'll be criticised, that could well just be the approach they've chosen. Naturally I'd prefer the second option (or something similar)... and it's probably closer to the truth than the first option. Probably. Who knows?
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Joe
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Jun 7, 2019 0:17:01 GMT
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Post by Joe on Jun 7, 2019 0:17:01 GMT
I hope you are correct but I don’t see a logical reason for not announcing them especially when the club bang on about announcing as soon as the ink is dry I can think of two possible reasons (and there are probably more... no omniscience here! ):- 1 - Doucet hasn't signed anyone because he was waiting until he'd got a coach, and Wallace hasn't signed anyone yet. All is as it appears... zip, zilch, zero, nothing, nada. 2 - Doucet HAS made several signings - probably mainly the Brits - but they are delaying any announcements for a while so as not to make it look as if Wallace was completely bypassed. A bit of face-saving PR. Total <bovine excrement> of course, but given the fact that whatever the Panthers do they'll be criticised, that could well just be the approach they've chosen. Naturally I'd prefer the second option (or something similar)... and it's probably closer to the truth than the first option. Probably. Who knows? if 2 is correct then I don’t think anyone would really criticise Doucet for signing brits because we all know how important they are
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Jun 7, 2019 10:34:21 GMT
Post by Robbie Nud on Jun 7, 2019 10:34:21 GMT
I wonder if they have made a number of signings and keeping quiet until almost the end and announce a whole team? Unwise because of the comments made on social media from fans who are seeing all the other teams making signings and diddly squat from the Panthers. Have they made approaches to players who have refused to sign for whatever reason. Or are they going to trot out the usual, 'we have made offers to a number of players and wont release details until all the paperwork is in place', or 'we are waiting until all leagues / seasons have finished to see what is available as we want the right players to fit in with the coach's vision'. Which means we could end up with players no one else wants.
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Jun 7, 2019 10:41:50 GMT
Post by Bagheera on Jun 7, 2019 10:41:50 GMT
Looks like at least one Brit to be announced at 6pm tonight.
I think Panthers have perhaps become a little to bothered about being perceived to do the right thing. Coach was announced last week and by leaving anything until at least a week later they can make out that Wallace has had an input in all signings. That opposed to being critisised for signing players without a coach. I rekon at least one Brit was already signed up and this is the reason they've left it late to announce. Considering the number of weeks left to the start of the season I'm hoping we will drop all the Brit signings in one go tonight.
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Joe
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Jun 7, 2019 11:54:17 GMT
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Post by Joe on Jun 7, 2019 11:54:17 GMT
Davies to Panthers and Perlini to Flames
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Jun 7, 2019 17:12:55 GMT
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Post by deke on Jun 7, 2019 17:12:55 GMT
Lacko talent is back and so is perlini. Glad perlini is back hope for a better season from him but how how how how how has lacklustre managed to get a contract
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Post by bobness on Jun 7, 2019 17:19:44 GMT
Both need a better season than last. Happy enough with Perlini, but Lacho is a poor signing given his numbers. I hope he proves me wrong.
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Jun 7, 2019 17:20:21 GMT
Post by bobness on Jun 7, 2019 17:20:21 GMT
Lacko talent is back and so is perlini. Glad perlini is back hope for a better season from him but how how how how how has lacklustre managed to get a contract There's no lack of talent, just application, I think.
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Post by deke on Jun 7, 2019 17:28:37 GMT
Lacko had a very poor season even by his very low standards. Somehow he managed to limbo under it. Offensive production. Last year? 2 goals and 8 assists. That's only 6 more than tetlow and 1 more than lepine.... Season hasn't started yet and we have lepine who let's be fair to him, is poo poo and past it, rheault who Lilley injured himself signing his name on the fat contract he got and lachowitz who is so God awful I believe we would have better luck rotating a fan in every week for his spot on the roster. 3 duff players already. Compare our signings to Cardiff or Belfast. How many of our current roster would they sign if they could?
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Joe
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Jun 7, 2019 17:43:26 GMT
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Post by Joe on Jun 7, 2019 17:43:26 GMT
Decent point production from Perlini but my only issue with him is that he has the attitude and work ethic of an import, not a Brit
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Yotes
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Jun 7, 2019 17:43:41 GMT
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Post by Yotes on Jun 7, 2019 17:43:41 GMT
Good to have Perlini back, although I agree with Bob that he suffered second season syndrome a bit, hopefully he rebounds a bit.
Lachowicz would depend on the deal, he's a penalty killer and not much else these days. Remember having such high hopes for him.
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Jun 7, 2019 17:44:38 GMT
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Post by Pies on Jun 7, 2019 17:44:38 GMT
Lacho has been off for a few years. However, his talent shines through at GB level. I’m hoping Wallace will be able to coax the best out of Lacho.
Perlini had a poor season but an excellent one the season before. I don’t think he ever fit into the systems put in place and it was too late by the time Rick took over to change anything.
Like anything, I will look at these with my glass half full attitude
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Jun 7, 2019 17:51:32 GMT
Post by Jord v4 on Jun 7, 2019 17:51:32 GMT
Constantly changing Perlini's position didn't help. Is he a winger or a centre, I doubt he even knows anymore.
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Jun 7, 2019 17:53:22 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 17:53:22 GMT
A predictable and underwhelming announcement. 🙁
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Joe
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Jun 7, 2019 17:54:43 GMT
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Post by Joe on Jun 7, 2019 17:54:43 GMT
Lacho has been off for a few years. However, his talent shines through at GB level. I’m hoping Wallace will be able to coax the best out of Lacho. Perlini had a poor season but an excellent one the season before. I don’t think he ever fit into the systems put in place and it was too late by the time Rick took over to change anything. Like anything, I will look at these with my glass half full attitude I personally don’t think Perlini’s first season was excellent. He had a good first season but I don’t think we’ve gotten the best out of Perlini yet
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Jun 7, 2019 18:20:23 GMT
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Post by wgray on Jun 7, 2019 18:20:23 GMT
Both Perlini and Lachowicz need to bring more this season, they need to play with more energy, determination and less fear, then they will be more productive.
Show the fans that you want to win for them.
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Jun 7, 2019 21:07:58 GMT
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Post by panthersfan10 on Jun 7, 2019 21:07:58 GMT
Not saying I rate Lacho because I don’t but who realistically would he be replaced with? Assuming Davies stays with Guildford
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Jun 8, 2019 2:51:43 GMT
Post by NickThePanther44 on Jun 8, 2019 2:51:43 GMT
Not saying I rate Lacho because I don’t but who realistically would he be replaced with? Assuming Davies stays with Guildford In terms of replacement the bar isn’t exactly high, is it? Why not give a younger guy like Kelsall or Cownie a chance.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jun 8, 2019 7:22:10 GMT
On the "radio" interview with Doucet GM - "everyone refers to him as Bobbie from Beaston" - I dont think I have heard anyone other than GM who has done that. Perlini is capable of better than last season, Lacho could improve under a change of coach - something of a filler on the roster.
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Jun 8, 2019 11:28:46 GMT
Post by cooperphil156 on Jun 8, 2019 11:28:46 GMT
Kelsall back at Panthers
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Post by kievthegreat on Jun 8, 2019 11:30:06 GMT
Kelsall and Hazeldine also back.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jun 8, 2019 14:02:40 GMT
I’m happy with the signings of Hazeldine and Kelsall. It does leave us with a lot of British players, again not something I’m unhappy about but I do worry that this may mean Farmer may not be coming back.
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Jun 8, 2019 14:53:49 GMT
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Post by Joe on Jun 8, 2019 14:53:49 GMT
I’m happy with the signings of Hazeldine and Kelsall. It does leave us with a lot of British players, again not something I’m unhappy about but I do worry that this may mean Farmer may not be coming back. I don’t think we have enough brits personally, yes we have Kelsall and Hazeldine but we don’t know how their development will pan out and we don’t know how long we’ll have our current senior brits so we need to sign and start training junior prospects so that we aren’t having to rely on their being senior brits available to sign. If Long or Davies weren’t available this offseason then Belfast would have been struggling which is why it’s important to try and bring as many brits as possible through
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Jun 8, 2019 15:09:22 GMT
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Post by wgray on Jun 8, 2019 15:09:22 GMT
I’m happy with the signings of Hazeldine and Kelsall. It does leave us with a lot of British players, again not something I’m unhappy about but I do worry that this may mean Farmer may not be coming back. I don’t think we have enough brits personally, yes we have Kelsall and Hazeldine but we don’t know how their development will pan out and we don’t know how long we’ll have our current senior brits so we need to sign and start training junior prospects so that we aren’t having to rely on their being senior brits available to sign. If Long or Davies weren’t available this offseason then Belfast would have been struggling which is why it’s important to try and bring as many brits as possible through I agree with you but I think we’ve got to start playing the lads, we’ve done it with Tetlow and Betteridge, now they are both in the starting line-up. If we weren’t to re-sign Lee then I’d be happy for Tetlow to be our 6th dman, Lee has the experience but as Tetlow gains some he will be a much more effective defence-man than Lee has ever been due to his stature. We could also play Hazeldine as 7th dman and this would help his progression massively. Like you, I am worried if Farmer doesn’t return as from our current players Ollie is the only player who you could push to fill his role but it will be a challenge for him. Lacho is, quite frankly, useless and Kelsall needs to progress in the same way that Ollie has done. Do you think we could put more responsibility on Ollie, move him up the lines, then play Kelsall as 12th forward?
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Jun 8, 2019 15:45:21 GMT
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Post by Joe on Jun 8, 2019 15:45:21 GMT
I don’t think we have enough brits personally, yes we have Kelsall and Hazeldine but we don’t know how their development will pan out and we don’t know how long we’ll have our current senior brits so we need to sign and start training junior prospects so that we aren’t having to rely on their being senior brits available to sign. If Long or Davies weren’t available this offseason then Belfast would have been struggling which is why it’s important to try and bring as many brits as possible through I agree with you but I think we’ve got to start playing the lads, we’ve done it with Tetlow and Betteridge, now they are both in the starting line-up. If we weren’t to re-sign Lee then I’d be happy for Tetlow to be our 6th dman, Lee has the experience but as Tetlow gains some he will be a much more effective defence-man than Lee has ever been due to his stature. We could also play Hazeldine as 7th dman and this would help his progression massively. Like you, I am worried if Farmer doesn’t return as from our current players Ollie is the only player who you could push to fill his role but it will be a challenge for him. Lacho is, quite frankly, useless and Kelsall needs to progress in the same way that Ollie has done. Do you think we could put more responsibility on Ollie, move him up the lines, then play Kelsall as 12th forward? We might not have a choice but to move Ollie up the lines if Farmer leaves but I am more confident now in his ability to emulate Farmer’s point production due his performances last season than I would have been in previous seasons
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