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Post by mardibum on Mar 1, 2019 10:10:28 GMT
The old man sat in the corner of the Encore bar, hunched over his glass of water (he couldn’t afford the beer).
“It’s not a new coach this club needs” he muttered. “It’s an EXORCIST!. I mean, what can you expect when your rink is built on top of a cholera cemetery? Look at what happened to that house in Poltergeist. And that moth in Block 7. That’s no moth, it’s a lost soul trying to get to The Light. Remember, “Don’t go into the light Carole Ann!”.
He lowered his voice and looked furtively around the bar. “And I’ve seen ....... ZOMBIES!”
I had a scrat up for another pint. “So what” I replied, “I see them every week!”
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Post by Yotes on Mar 1, 2019 10:58:43 GMT
Remember kids: Don't do drugs.
Or at least not as many as Mardi.
Although they really should do something about the moth problem, the curtains must be riddled with them.
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Post by mardibum on Mar 1, 2019 11:08:31 GMT
“Doctor, doctor. I think I’m a moth!”
“You need a psychiatrist, why come to me?”
“Your light was on!”
No “likes” please. You’ll only encourage me!
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Mar 1, 2019 13:10:15 GMT
We have a fly in the lower part of block 13. It appears every week and avoids all attempts to be swatted away. There is a possibility that next season it will be asked to appear a player's evenings, quiz nights, and have it's own sponsored shirt.
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Post by EMB on Mar 1, 2019 14:00:37 GMT
That's the fly that also frequents block 14... big fat thing aswell.
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Post by sj on Mar 1, 2019 17:48:56 GMT
That fat fly is a GM the GM mini spy camera and microphone
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Post by spik on Mar 1, 2019 20:02:49 GMT
That mini spy camera is checking for moths.
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Post by pingchowchi on Mar 2, 2019 12:08:12 GMT
I hope these insects have paid the admission fee!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 17:39:09 GMT
I hope these insects have paid the admission fee! Not in the bronze blocks as they're all on freebies!! 😂
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Post by Lucy on Apr 26, 2019 10:46:55 GMT
Ravensburg are playing a vital game tonight against the DEL2 Champions Frankfurt. Currently 3-1 up in the Play-off series, a win tonight will make them Champions!
Two games ago they fought back from 4-0 down to win 6-5, scoring the winner at 59.59! It may not have worked for Rich at Panthers but I wish him all the best for tonight!
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Post by iginla on Apr 26, 2019 13:02:09 GMT
Ravensburg are playing a vital game tonight against the DEL2 Champions Frankfurt. Currently 3-1 up in the Play-off series, a win tonight will make them Champions! Two games ago they fought back from 4-0 down to win 6-5, scoring the winner at 59.59! It may not have worked for him at Panthers but I wish him all the best for tonight! Good luck to him. Mmmm,so what does that tell us then ? It tells me that the problem is what’s behind the coach at Nottingham Panthers. 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 13:17:22 GMT
Ravensburg are playing a vital game tonight against the DEL2 Champions Frankfurt. Currently 3-1 up in the Play-off series, a win tonight will make them Champions! Two games ago they fought back from 4-0 down to win 6-5, scoring the winner at 59.59! It may not have worked for him at Panthers but I wish him all the best for tonight! Good luck to him. Mmmm,so what does that tell us then ? It tells me that the problem is what’s behind the coach at Nottingham Panthers. 🤔 Not really. In the EIHL era only one coach has ever won the title who has no experience of playing or coaching in Britain, which was Ben Simon with Sheffield in 2010/11. Only one coach managed it in the ISL era too, Kurt Kleinendorst with Manchester Storm in 1998/99.
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Post by Mark Mac on Apr 27, 2019 6:46:11 GMT
Good luck to him. Mmmm,so what does that tell us then ? It tells me that the problem is what’s behind the coach at Nottingham Panthers. 🤔 Not really. In the EIHL era only one coach has ever won the title who has no experience of playing or coaching in Britain, which was Ben Simon with Sheffield in 2010/11. Only one coach managed it in the ISL era too, Kurt Kleinendorst with Manchester Storm in 1998/99. Actually, yes really. The problems are clearly behind the coach at the Panthers. To think otherwise is utterly bonkers.
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Post by Shaggy on Apr 27, 2019 7:43:49 GMT
Not really. In the EIHL era only one coach has ever won the title who has no experience of playing or coaching in Britain, which was Ben Simon with Sheffield in 2010/11. Only one coach managed it in the ISL era too, Kurt Kleinendorst with Manchester Storm in 1998/99. Actually, yes really. The problems are clearly behind the coach at the Panthers. To think otherwise is utterly bonkers. On the contrary - the only thing that is 'clear' about this whole mess is that nothing is clear. Without being present behind the scenes and actually witnessing what was being said and done by all parties concerned, all we have is guesswork, assumption, prejudice and ignorance. Chernomaz, for example... he seemed like a breath of fresh air to start with, then it all went very wrong. Was he stabbed in the back by individuals in the club, stifled by a reactionary management culture, or did his style just not fit the environment of British ice hockey? All of those have been touted as being The Real Reason It Didn't Work Out (TM)... so yes, that's very clear.
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Post by bobness on Apr 27, 2019 8:18:24 GMT
Ravensburg are playing a vital game tonight against the DEL2 Champions Frankfurt. Currently 3-1 up in the Play-off series, a win tonight will make them Champions! Two games ago they fought back from 4-0 down to win 6-5, scoring the winner at 59.59! It may not have worked for Rich at Panthers but I wish him all the best for tonight! The highlights for that game are well worth a watch. www.del-2.org/videos/play/v-btkmx81oqcbt-fa/4-0 down to 2 5 on 3 PPGs, a 5 on 4 PPG and a PS, they rode their luck, kept on playing and got a heartbreaking (for Frankfurt) winner in the last 2 seconds. Have a particular look at the "juggling" goal. It looks like it's been a pretty bad tempered series.
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Post by Mark Mac on Apr 27, 2019 10:29:36 GMT
Actually, yes really. The problems are clearly behind the coach at the Panthers. To think otherwise is utterly bonkers. On the contrary - the only thing that is 'clear' about this whole mess is that nothing is clear. Without being present behind the scenes and actually witnessing what was being said and done by all parties concerned, all we have is guesswork, assumption, prejudice and ignorance. Chernomaz, for example... he seemed like a breath of fresh air to start with, then it all went very wrong. Was he stabbed in the back by individuals in the club, stifled by a reactionary management culture, or did his style just not fit the environment of British ice hockey? All of those have been touted as being The Real Reason It Didn't Work Out (TM)... so yes, that's very clear. It is quite simple. What is the consistent factor? NB and GM. Neilson got a huge amount of flak. Now some of it was fair, but when you consider that the issues persisted from Ellis, Neilson, Chernomaz and Strachan you can see that coaches are not the consistent factor. That is clear.
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Post by Shaggy on Apr 27, 2019 16:39:47 GMT
On the contrary - the only thing that is 'clear' about this whole mess is that nothing is clear. Without being present behind the scenes and actually witnessing what was being said and done by all parties concerned, all we have is guesswork, assumption, prejudice and ignorance. Chernomaz, for example... he seemed like a breath of fresh air to start with, then it all went very wrong. Was he stabbed in the back by individuals in the club, stifled by a reactionary management culture, or did his style just not fit the environment of British ice hockey? All of those have been touted as being The Real Reason It Didn't Work Out (TM)... so yes, that's very clear. It is quite simple. What is the consistent factor? NB and GM. Neilson got a huge amount of flak. Now some of it was fair, but when you consider that the issues persisted from Ellis, Neilson, Chernomaz and Strachan you can see that coaches are not the consistent factor. That is clear. Nothing is clear... all is assumption. The 4 coaches you mention... there could be 4 different reasons for any failings during their tenure... in fact, there are probably more - life is rarely as simple as there being just one reason for anything. You are correct in saying that Black & Moran are a consistent factor... it may well be that either or both of them has had some kind of negative effect... in fact, I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least a bit of 'drag factor' from either or both. But that could be said about anyone. However, it's pitifully poor logic to assume that a "consistent factor" is 'clearly' The Reason (TM) for any issues, simply because no other explanation is immediately apparent - or preferred. In any effort of analysis, scientific enquiry or simple logical discussion, the simple phrase "I don't know" should not be regarded as embarrassing... these days it's almost an act of moral courage. Absolutely nothing about this situation is "clear".
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Post by Mark Mac on Apr 27, 2019 17:26:02 GMT
It is quite simple. What is the consistent factor? NB and GM. Neilson got a huge amount of flak. Now some of it was fair, but when you consider that the issues persisted from Ellis, Neilson, Chernomaz and Strachan you can see that coaches are not the consistent factor. That is clear. Nothing is clear... all is assumption. The 4 coaches you mention... there could be 4 different reasons for any failings during their tenure... in fact, there are probably more - life is rarely as simple as there being just one reason for anything. You are correct in saying that Black & Moran are a consistent factor... it may well be that either or both of them has had some kind of negative effect... in fact, I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least a bit of 'drag factor' from either or both. But that could be said about anyone. However, it's pitifully poor logic to assume that a "consistent factor" is 'clearly' The Reason (TM) for any issues, simply because no other explanation is immediately apparent - or preferred. In any effort of analysis, scientific enquiry or simple logical discussion, the simple phrase "I don't know" should not be regarded as embarrassing... these days it's almost an act of moral courage. Absolutely nothing about this situation is "clear". Pitifully poor? Haha Stop being devil's advocate. When we're talking about how a sports team has performed over 11-12 years making the same stupid mistakes, it is perfectly fair to look at the consistent factor and say that it is a clear reason. If it was 2 or 3 years then fair enough, but more than a decade?!
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Post by mattscold on Apr 28, 2019 12:54:09 GMT
Nothing is clear... all is assumption. The 4 coaches you mention... there could be 4 different reasons for any failings during their tenure... in fact, there are probably more - life is rarely as simple as there being just one reason for anything. You are correct in saying that Black & Moran are a consistent factor... it may well be that either or both of them has had some kind of negative effect... in fact, I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least a bit of 'drag factor' from either or both. But that could be said about anyone. However, it's pitifully poor logic to assume that a "consistent factor" is 'clearly' The Reason (TM) for any issues, simply because no other explanation is immediately apparent - or preferred. In any effort of analysis, scientific enquiry or simple logical discussion, the simple phrase "I don't know" should not be regarded as embarrassing... these days it's almost an act of moral courage. Absolutely nothing about this situation is "clear". Pitifully poor? Haha Stop being devil's advocate. When we're talking about how a sports team has performed over 11-12 years making the same stupid mistakes, it is perfectly fair to look at the consistent factor and say that it is a clear reason. If it was 2 or 3 years then fair enough, but more than a decade?! Whilst there may be some truth in what you’re saying correlation does not necessarily imply causation. There are many things that are constant over that time. Is it clearly the fault of the arena? Is it clearly the fault of us playing our home games in yellow jerseys? I think that is Shaggy’s point, things are rarely black and white and this is one of those times.
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Post by Lucy on Apr 28, 2019 16:17:06 GMT
Currently 3-0 up in game 6
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Post by Lucy on Apr 28, 2019 17:35:00 GMT
DEL 2 Play-Off Champions! Well done Rich Chernomaz 🏒🏒
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Post by Shaggy on Apr 28, 2019 17:44:43 GMT
Pitifully poor? Haha Stop being devil's advocate. When we're talking about how a sports team has performed over 11-12 years making the same stupid mistakes, it is perfectly fair to look at the consistent factor and say that it is a clear reason. If it was 2 or 3 years then fair enough, but more than a decade?! Whilst there may be some truth in what you’re saying correlation does not necessarily imply causation. There are many things that are constant over that time. Is it clearly the fault of the arena? Is it clearly the fault of us playing our home games in yellow jerseys? I think that is Shaggy’s point, things are rarely black and white and this is one of those times. Nail. Hit. Head.
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Post by Mark Mac on Apr 28, 2019 18:22:21 GMT
Whilst there may be some truth in what you’re saying correlation does not necessarily imply causation. There are many things that are constant over that time. Is it clearly the fault of the arena? Is it clearly the fault of us playing our home games in yellow jerseys? I think that is Shaggy’s point, things are rarely black and white and this is one of those times. Nail. Hit. Head. Yes, thank you, I did get his point. Of course, things are rarely black and white. But using that to excuse the Panthers management is still quite ridiculous. It is either looking for reasons to excuse them or simply being a devil's advocate for the sake of it.
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Post by oldman on Apr 28, 2019 19:49:27 GMT
Yes, thank you, I did get his point. Of course, things are rarely black and white. But using that to excuse the Panthers management is still quite ridiculous. It is either looking for reasons to excuse them or simply being a devil's advocate for the sake of it. or it is saying you are making assumptions to suite your agenda, unless you are party to all coversations you are just as they say pissing in the wind.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 10:50:29 GMT
So he wins the playoffs then.. not that clueless is he!
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