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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 21, 2018 18:27:10 GMT
Well no, of course not. Tell you what I'll pm you the point of my next post if it helps. Yh please. Your saying Guptill would make sense to be gassed bc he isn’t great at defending but ling and graham weren’t? Guptill is a top point scorer and a star player for us so far. That's what I'm saying, yes. Points aren't the problem. Defending, from all areas, is. If any forward could be targeted for defending issues, it's Guptil. If you had Ling or Graham on this team you could argue the same, Graham especially as he brought little else to the party. Different teams, different scenarios... Hey, just my opinion my friend.
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 21, 2018 18:28:23 GMT
Lesson learned Mr Black...tell Gary no more 3 in 3 road trips. Oh wait,there’s another one coming in about 3 months time ! 🙄 You're right, again. God darn you & your correct negativity. Edit - A win, yay!! Suck that Scottish official types.
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 21, 2018 18:29:18 GMT
Yh please. Your saying Guptill would make sense to be gassed bc he isn’t great at defending but ling and graham weren’t? Guptill is a top point scorer and a star player for us so far. That's what I'm saying, yes. Points isn't the problem. Defending, from all areas, is. If any forward could be targeted for defending issues, it's Guptil. If you had Ling or Graham on this team you could argue the same, Graham especially as he brought little else to the party. Different teams, different scenarios... Hey, just my opinion my friend. but that’s not his job at all. I understand what your saying but you can’t blame the defending on guptill. Especially when we have players like Henderson. If your getting as many points as guptill then that’s his job defending isn’t.
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Post by tootootrain on Oct 21, 2018 18:30:25 GMT
5+Game for Kneeing apparently! Seen a few fans saying it was barely worth a minor. No it was a fair call Rubbish. Olsen did all he could to avoid the Dundee player who fell over in front of him.
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 21, 2018 18:31:56 GMT
Maybe Rich wants more two way players. I agree it isn't his job per se.... But he's very one way is Guptil.
Anyway, a good point to agree to disagree to an extent & see what the week unfolds.
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Post by Adam on Oct 21, 2018 18:33:54 GMT
Oh my daysssssss a WIN! UNBELIEVABLE JEFF!! GET THE CHAMPERS OUT!!!
SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW!1!1!!1!!
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Post by iginla on Oct 21, 2018 18:38:07 GMT
One of the best lines we ever had was Ling/Graham/Benedict One was great with the puck on his stick. One was great when the one who was great with the puck on his stick passed it to him. And the other one just worked his tail off in both directions.
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Post by shinobi on Oct 21, 2018 18:43:49 GMT
Oh my daysssssss a WIN! UNBELIEVABLE JEFF!! GET THE CHAMPERS OUT!!! SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW!1!1!!1!! Irrespective of your blatant trolling, again, a win is nice but doesn’t conceal the issues that the team currently has. Lots of work for Cherno to do.
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 21, 2018 18:46:03 GMT
That's what I'm saying, yes. Points isn't the problem. Defending, from all areas, is. If any forward could be targeted for defending issues, it's Guptil. If you had Ling or Graham on this team you could argue the same, Graham especially as he brought little else to the party. Different teams, different scenarios... Hey, just my opinion my friend. but that’s not his job at all. I understand what your saying but you can’t blame the defending on guptill. Especially when we have players like Henderson. If your getting as many points as guptill then that’s his job defending isn’t. But it is. In hockey all 5 guys on the ice have to contribute. Yes there are different levels, but everybody has to do their job defensively. Ling may not have been quick at getting back but he still did his best and likely did what was expected. He would use hos skill to his advantage, often lifting a stick etc at the right time. If you top points scorer is at 0+/- then how much is he actually contributing. I bet Ling has never anyway near that figure. Im not saying I want to see him go but its quite simple. If the coach expects and asks for A,B & C but Guptill choses to just give a and a little B he isn't doing what is asked.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 21, 2018 18:48:11 GMT
Rubbish. Olsen did all he could to avoid the Dundee player who fell over in front of him. Have to say that I only had the webcast so could easily be wrong
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Post by Adam on Oct 21, 2018 18:49:22 GMT
Oh my daysssssss a WIN! UNBELIEVABLE JEFF!! GET THE CHAMPERS OUT!!! SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW!1!1!!1!! Irrespective of your blatant trolling, again, a win is nice but doesn’t conceal the issues that the team currently has. Lots of work for Cherno to do. No trolling at all, glad we won it was much needed. Like you say we have many issues!
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 21, 2018 18:51:18 GMT
To be clear. As I stated the rumour is just that. I got a text from somebody at the game saying Guptill is gone. It may well be a manifestation of him being dropped tonight. I'm sure we will no if he is very soon.
You know how these things work. Sometimes they end up being true, quite often they dont.
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Post by iginla on Oct 21, 2018 18:56:48 GMT
Oh my daysssssss a WIN! UNBELIEVABLE JEFF!! GET THE CHAMPERS OUT!!! SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW!1!1!!1!! Irrespective of your blatant trolling, again, a win is nice but doesn’t conceal the issues that the team currently has. Lots of work for Cherno to do. Well we won tonight so the problem is obviously Cherno’s coaching.....Get him gone sharpish and get Strachs and Greener in charge ! 😂😂🤣🤣 Lol
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Post by texpef on Oct 21, 2018 18:58:25 GMT
5+Game for Kneeing apparently! Seen a few fans saying it was barely worth a minor. No it was a fair call Not from where I was sat... he went down before Olsen reached him imho.. same ref as last two nights called ALL the penalties on us..
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 21, 2018 18:59:09 GMT
but that’s not his job at all. I understand what your saying but you can’t blame the defending on guptill. Especially when we have players like Henderson. If your getting as many points as guptill then that’s his job defending isn’t. But it is. In hockey all 5 guys on the ice have to contribute. Yes there are different levels, but everybody has to do their job defensively. Ling may not have been quick at getting back but he still did his best and likely did what was expected. He would use hos skill to his advantage, often lifting a stick etc at the right time. If you top points scorer is at 0+/- then how much is he actually contributing. I bet Ling has never anyway near that figure. Im not saying I want to see him go but its quite simple. If the coach expects and asks for A,B & C but Guptill choses to just give a and a little B he isn't doing what is asked. not at all. Look at Ovechkin. If we didn’t have guptill we would be doing a lot worse than we are ATM. He has carried us when we were down sometimes to get crucial goals.
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Post by iginla on Oct 21, 2018 19:01:51 GMT
To be clear. As I stated the rumour is just that. I got a text from somebody at the game saying Guptill is gone. It may well be a manifestation of him being dropped tonight. I'm sure we will no if he is very soon. You know how these things work. Sometimes they end up being true, quite often they dont. If Guptill was simply dropped and not injured it was a very very brave choice. When you’re desperate to salvage something from a dire weekend dropping your top scorer and playing an import short can’t be what many coaches would do. 😳
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Post by shinobi on Oct 21, 2018 19:03:38 GMT
To be clear. As I stated the rumour is just that. I got a text from somebody at the game saying Guptill is gone. It may well be a manifestation of him being dropped tonight. I'm sure we will no if he is very soon. You know how these things work. Sometimes they end up being true, quite often they dont. No, no, you lit the fire 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 19:03:39 GMT
but that’s not his job at all. I understand what your saying but you can’t blame the defending on guptill. Especially when we have players like Henderson. If your getting as many points as guptill then that’s his job defending isn’t. But it is. In hockey all 5 guys on the ice have to contribute. Yes there are different levels, but everybody has to do their job defensively. Ling may not have been quick at getting back but he still did his best and likely did what was expected. He would use hos skill to his advantage, often lifting a stick etc at the right time. If you top points scorer is at 0+/- then how much is he actually contributing. I bet Ling has never anyway near that figure. Im not saying I want to see him go but its quite simple. If the coach expects and asks for A,B & C but Guptill choses to just give a and a little B he isn't doing what is asked. As Totootrain will testify, all the best teams need very good 2 way players. We (detroit) dominated the game for 15 years as we had some of the best players who played both ends of the ice so well! (Yzerman, Federov, larianov, and more recently Zetteburg and Datysuk)
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Post by PantherB on Oct 21, 2018 19:04:12 GMT
To be clear. As I stated the rumour is just that. I got a text from somebody at the game saying Guptill is gone. It may well be a manifestation of him being dropped tonight. I'm sure we will no if he is very soon. You know how these things work. Sometimes they end up being true, quite often they dont. If Guptill was simply dropped and not injured it was a very very brave choice. When you’re desperate to salvage something from a dire weekend dropping your top scorer and playing an import short can’t be what many coaches would do. 😳 Henderson didn't play either so we played an import short. Both could be injured, or Henderson could be injured and Guptill gone.. We'll find out in about 2 weeks time I'd imagine, knowing Panthers.
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 21, 2018 19:05:28 GMT
But it is. In hockey all 5 guys on the ice have to contribute. Yes there are different levels, but everybody has to do their job defensively. Ling may not have been quick at getting back but he still did his best and likely did what was expected. He would use hos skill to his advantage, often lifting a stick etc at the right time. If you top points scorer is at 0+/- then how much is he actually contributing. I bet Ling has never anyway near that figure. Im not saying I want to see him go but its quite simple. If the coach expects and asks for A,B & C but Guptill choses to just give a and a little B he isn't doing what is asked. not at all. Look at Ovechkin. If we didn’t have guptill we would be doing a lot worse than we are ATM. He has carried us when we were down sometimes to get crucial goals. Fair point. 👍
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 21, 2018 19:09:41 GMT
To be clear. As I stated the rumour is just that. I got a text from somebody at the game saying Guptill is gone. It may well be a manifestation of him being dropped tonight. I'm sure we will no if he is very soon. You know how these things work. Sometimes they end up being true, quite often they dont. If Guptill was simply dropped and not injured it was a very very brave choice. When you’re desperate to salvage something from a dire weekend dropping your top scorer and playing an import short can’t be what many coaches would do. 😳 It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 21, 2018 19:11:02 GMT
Per the match report, Henderson is injured and Guptill was a healthy scratch. So read into that what you will.
Needed win at the end of a bad weekend.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 21, 2018 19:12:39 GMT
Rubbish. Olsen did all he could to avoid the Dundee player who fell over in front of him. Just watched the slow-mo video and you are right it wasnt even a minor.
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Post by Mark on Oct 21, 2018 19:14:31 GMT
Easily sorted. If Guptill was just a healthy scratch and is still a Panthers player, the club can come out and say so, saving a lot of hand wringing and upset.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 21, 2018 19:14:46 GMT
To be clear. As I stated the rumour is just that. I got a text from somebody at the game saying Guptill is gone. It may well be a manifestation of him being dropped tonight. I'm sure we will no if he is very soon. You know how these things work. Sometimes they end up being true, quite often they dont. If Guptill was simply dropped and not injured it was a very very brave choice. When you’re desperate to salvage something from a dire weekend dropping your top scorer and playing an import short can’t be what many coaches would do. 😳 He is our top point scorer and the find of the season so far so if it’s anything other than a bollocking then that’s a travesty.
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