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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 2, 2018 18:25:08 GMT
Anybody else think Danny Stewart may be looking for a new job next year? I’m surprised he kept it this long. He must be very cheap.
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Post by Pies on Oct 2, 2018 18:36:01 GMT
I love the old boys club jumping all over Twitter damning the fans for putting the pressure on? Simms has put pressure on every other coach through the years and now it’s his mate, it’s wrong?! And then Seth Bennett saying Thommo could coach SHL or DEL - dont make me laugh! No ill will to Thommo but the outpouring of grief is OTT My only question is where was all this outpouring of sympathy and emotion after binning Adams? Exactly! Or the same outpouring when Neilson announced he was leaving Panthers. Where was Paul Adey’s article in the post?! Where was Mick Holland’s derision of the fans? Where was GM stating how the fans had forced him out? Or Chris Ellis lambasting the fan base? It’s a professional sports team. People have to move on. Fact of the matter is, it’s because of who he is that this “mourning” is occurring that has ultimately been caused by the standards of “win at all costs” set by his best mate over the years. All of them should look closer to home rather than blame the fans
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Post by iginla on Oct 2, 2018 19:54:16 GMT
What do Steelers expect their fans to do,just pay their money every week,then sit back quietly without reacting and watch a team which has slowly become a shadow of what it once was lose game after game ? Thommo has recruited extremely poorly,I mean come on,Lawrence,De la Rovere, Whistle etc wouldn’t have got near a Steelers team of old. Sprinkle in a few ageing players and a No1 goalie that was always a risk and yet their management can’t see why things have gone wrong and still defend Thommo. Steelers fans have every right to be up in arms,they pay their money and expect a good team,it’s sport you live or die by results. Thommo has had long enough at the helm and he couldn’t cut it and the fact that his best buddy is the Steelers mouthpiece should be of no consequence whatsoever in saving his job or be making excuses. Compared to the way Steelers treated Gerald Adams then Thommo was very lucky he lasted as long as he did.
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Post by Shaggy on Oct 2, 2018 20:07:29 GMT
The Steelers create the pressure themselves or at least Simms does,he’s their worst enemy. They spout all this ridiculous crap about “winning being in their DNA”, being the biggest and best,the No1 team in British hockey and being a “winning family” etc etc and then when it goes horribly wrong and they lose games they blame their fans for rightly getting upset. Steelers have always indoctrinated their own fans to expect winning and success then turn on the same fans for not being happy at loss after loss. Best thing Tony Smith can do is bullet Simms now and get rid of the whole culture once and for all. The Steelers and Thommo have got what they deserved here and Simmsey can spout all he likes but he is one of the main reasons they will always be a poisoned chalice. Now don't have a heart attack, Iginla ... but I agree completely.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 20:20:46 GMT
Apparently it's 5% of the fanbase who acted like morons on social media etc trying to oust Thommo out !! 5%?? More like 85% 🤣
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Post by ted logan on Oct 2, 2018 20:33:54 GMT
The outpouring of grief from certain sections of their fan base on social media is so OTT, cringeworthy and embarrassing.
I had to check to make sure he hadn’t actually died. It’s pathetic. He’s resigning from a job for fudges sake. Sort of thing that happens every day, in every country, in every walk of life.
Grow up, stop sucking up to Simms and get over it. Jeeze.
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Post by Mark on Oct 2, 2018 21:03:19 GMT
Their family is akin to the Mafia. Everybody loves you then one morning you wake up to find a horse’s head in your bed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 7:07:49 GMT
The 'Peace at Last' headline in the Star topped it off for me. That should be on a grave not in the paper when he's resigned!
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Post by iginla on Oct 3, 2018 7:52:46 GMT
Apparently it's 5% of the fanbase who acted like morons on social media etc trying to oust Thommo out !! 5%?? More like 85% 🤣 You gotta laugh at that 5% figure eh Pidge. Even Desbiens is tweeting it saying he would never even have considered the EIHL were it not for Thommo. Well that’s a total lie,because he was talking to Panthers in the summer before he even signed for Steelers but was asking far too much money and ended up in Sheffield. 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 8:31:44 GMT
Apparently it's 5% of the fanbase who acted like morons on social media etc trying to oust Thommo out !! 5%?? More like 85% 🤣 You gotta laugh at that 5% figure eh Pidge. Even Desbiens is tweeting it saying he would never even have considered the EIHL were it not for Thommo. Well that’s a total lie,because he was talking to Panthers in the summer before he even signed for Steelers but was asking far too much money and ended up in Sheffield. 🙄 If a hockey player told me it was a Wednesday id have to check my calender first! Unfortunately the modern day fan appears very gullible and believes everything that comes out of their mouth ! What's this obsession with this inner circle in this league which don't like criticism aimed at the boys club ?
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Post by PantherB on Oct 3, 2018 12:24:15 GMT
Bob Westerdale and co. were pestering Smith for an answer on whether Thompson would keep his job, for the last two weeks. Tweeting after most games how shambolic a performance Steelers had just given.. Yet now, the articles are all about how fans forced Thompson out and that he was 'thrown to the wolves' etc.
Finnerty commenting on the situation and making it seem like a ridiculous move, even saying how it was unfair because this isn't football and coaches don't earn £2m a year, and have mortgages and bills to pay etc. I've read a lot of tosh during the last week but that tops it off. Trying to make it seem like he's been hard done by.
The whole Steelers 'family', excluding the majority of their fans, is as thick as pig excrement. All these so called reasons he shouldn't have lost his job and jibes towards fans for forcing a bad decision upon the club. If anything the fans have probably got the wheels in motion for the Steelers return to being a top 2 team. Too many Steelers employees and formers so far up Thompson's rear. It's hilarious to watch and read.
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Post by iginla on Oct 3, 2018 14:24:15 GMT
Imagine Thommo’s next coaching job interview...”why did you leave Steelers Paul” ? “Oh well err i couldn’t cope with the pressure and the fans wern’t very nice to me so i quit”.
Haha an SHL or DEL team are gonna just love that. 🙄🤣
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Post by Mozzy on Oct 3, 2018 17:41:03 GMT
Good to add a bit of context to the list - Blaisdell - Final year as coach (1st year EIHL) - his choice to stay in Canada. Maxwell - Should never have been appointed Paul Heavey - As above Rob Stewart - Third coach in one season - always difficult replacing such a successful coach as Blaisdell was. Dave Whistle - Gave back word - his choice Dave Matsos - Relatively successful in trophies but his style of play was killing the crowds - yawnfest. Big Doug - Same as Matsos - his teams were just very dreary to watch. Finnerty - player coach - puts exciting teams together but has a tendancy to be a bottler......although another couple of years in Sheffield may have changed that. Gerad Adams - Best since Blaisdell. Proved himself in a struggling Cardiff, then had great success in Sheffield. Moved aside for no reason!! Thompson - Vastly experienced but past his sell by date - the league has moved on. Looking at you guys, with Neilson. Lot's of cups but just one league title in that time. He would have been moved on in Sheffield too. The league title is the trophy, the others are sideshows. As for not wanting the job if you were a coach, why not? Lot's of pressure but isn't there always pressure at big clubs. You do it right then you become a legend (ala Blaisdell). Only coaches that don't believe in their own ability would be put off by the pressure. The positives and adulation far outweigh the potential negatives. Big job for Tony Smith to find the right man to compliment the great strides we have made off the ice with on ice success. Mozzy, do you think that the team you have now will be miraculously better with a new coach? Do you think the players that have been recruited are good enough? No I don't believe they will be miraculously better. There is a good few of the players that just aren't good enough too. But, Thompson had thrown them all under the bus and a new guy at the top may well get more out of an average set of players than he did. Whatever happened this season there is no way he should have been trusted to do any more recruiting at all. His record in that area is abysmally poor. The "fans" on twitter etc who are all out their with the outpouring of grief are just the usual "minority" that can see nothing wrong in anything the club does. I mean it might affect their status as part of the "in crowd". One person in particular constantly berating a mod of Steeltalk for his "bullet" tweet, was as bad as any member or former member in having a pop at the club, players etc on there, until he had his licence to post revoked of course. Now he's part of the "family". Thompson should have gone in the summer after the disaster that was last year. Smith got it wrong big style.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 17:41:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 17:59:40 GMT
Wow! Get your violins out and hold a vigil for our Paul! Simms is doing a great job of dividing that fanbase even more than it is already.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 3, 2018 18:34:21 GMT
I'm sure when Adams got offered an entire backroom staff he turned it down flat.
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Post by pantherlee on Oct 3, 2018 18:43:33 GMT
That is the biggest pile of garbage I think I’ve ever read.
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Post by devilsdude on Oct 3, 2018 19:12:32 GMT
Apparently Ryan Martindale has left Steelers a week after signing.
It's all going tits up for them this year.
Still wouldn't be surprised to see them win the playoffs with the crap 4 game system.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 19:35:16 GMT
Apparently Ryan Martindale has left Steelers a week after signing. It's all going tits up for them this year. Still wouldn't be surprised to see them win the playoffs with the crap 4 game system. Where’s it been reported about Martindale? Not doubting you, just haven’t seen it rumoured anywhere.
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Post by Caesar on Oct 3, 2018 19:47:03 GMT
Apparently Ryan Martindale has left Steelers a week after signing. It's all going tits up for them this year. Still wouldn't be surprised to see them win the playoffs with the crap 4 game system. Where’s it been reported about Martindale? Not doubting you, just haven’t seen it rumoured anywhere. I've seen it on a Facebook group, came from a Steelers fan as well
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Post by Phil Mitchell on Oct 3, 2018 19:55:40 GMT
A few things I have noted... The Steelers seems to lack stability otherwise why would the turn over of managers be so high The so called fans expectations are too high and they think that the Steelers should win everything as they are the biggest and best team in the country The club is in to freefall at the moment - there is no quick fix and I'm not sure who would want the job based upon the current situation David Simms typically has tried to put positive spin on a negative situation with this article
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Post by iginla on Oct 3, 2018 19:56:07 GMT
Wow! Get your violins out and hold a vigil for our Paul! Simms is doing a great job of dividing that fanbase even more than it is already. Your right Pidge that’s exactly what Simms does. The top and bottom of it is Thommo didn’t get it right,if he had he wouldn’t have had such pressure or the abuse. Fans are always entitled to their opinion and if things aren’t going right consistently there will be pressure. If Thommo can’t hack the social media or some boo’s then either he’s in the wrong job or just don’t read it man.
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Post by Pies on Oct 3, 2018 20:03:36 GMT
Wow! Get your violins out and hold a vigil for our Paul! Simms is doing a great job of dividing that fanbase even more than it is already. Your right Pidge that’s exactly what Simms does. The top and bottom of it is Thommo didn’t get it right,if he had he wouldn’t have had such pressure or the abuse. Fans are always entitled to their opinion and if things aren’t going right consistently there will be pressure. If Thommo can’t hack the social media or some boo’s then either he’s in the wrong job or just don’t read it man. Imagine if you were a Steelers fan Iggy - with your persistence, you would have got rid of him by game 1!
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Post by iginla on Oct 3, 2018 21:31:35 GMT
Your right Pidge that’s exactly what Simms does. The top and bottom of it is Thommo didn’t get it right,if he had he wouldn’t have had such pressure or the abuse. Fans are always entitled to their opinion and if things aren’t going right consistently there will be pressure. If Thommo can’t hack the social media or some boo’s then either he’s in the wrong job or just don’t read it man. Imagine if you were a Steelers fan Iggy - with your persistence, you would have got rid of him by game 1! Oooh Thommo wouldn’t have lasted a season if i was a Steelers fan. Guess where i come from though....Haha ? Good job I’m not on Twitter ! 😆
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Post by Shaggy on Oct 3, 2018 21:46:56 GMT
What an unmitigated pile of crap. (Not surprising coming from DS The BS, the most divisive figure in British ice hockey) "turned a team into a club"?? - what the hell were they before Thompson came on the scene? If in doubt... turn on the fans. Oh no, it's never the fault of the management, the coach, the PR stirrer...
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