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Post by cjones on Sept 22, 2018 21:55:41 GMT
4th game in 8 nights shown tonight! Looked tired from the get go. Take nothing from the Clan though, thought they played excellent and pretty much dominated that game! Fife beating Giants as well tonight, Sheffield continuing their luck with last few second winners and Cardiff being Cardiff... Going to be a fun season! Blaze outplayed us for periods tonight - until Martin scored our 2nd and Morissette our 3rd in the 3rd it could have gone either way!
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Post by wgray on Sept 22, 2018 21:57:56 GMT
It’s been a tough week and we’ve played a lot of hockey, we were clearly tired tonight and ultimately we’ve had a poor performance. We move on and have the perfect opportunity to redeem ourselves on Wednesday.
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Post by Jord v4 on Sept 22, 2018 21:59:25 GMT
Lee is pure class tonight... Can’t be worse than Olsen ? According to the official game sheet he’s been on the ice for all three Clan goals ! Olsen was decent, his partner though, jeez.... & the Lee/Lepine partnership is destined to hit that iceberg every time.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 22, 2018 22:10:51 GMT
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Post by John Casey on Sept 22, 2018 22:11:27 GMT
4th game in 8 nights shown tonight! Looked tired from the get go. Take nothing from the Clan though, thought they played excellent and pretty much dominated that game! Fife beating Giants as well tonight, Sheffield continuing their luck with last few second winners and Cardiff being Cardiff... Going to be a fun season! Personally I don't get why we agreed to go to Cardiff and Belfast in the same week (With a trip to Coventry in the middle)
At least, we're not playing tomorrow, so hopefully they rest and sort things out
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Post by kezypanther on Sept 22, 2018 22:13:46 GMT
Wow!! I’m not having a go at you or the panthers coz u lost lol. I’m just saying these games at home when you expect to win are the game you need to win. They will be the points You wish you had when the end of the season comes. I’m not saying your poor because we all know your not panthers are good this season we all know that. I actually agree with you. Home games are so important. Devils proved it when we went up there, we were ahead but devils found a way to win. That’s what we need to do. Tiredness should not be an excuse in my opinion as I think we should have a spare import or two to 1. Cover for injuries I.e Rheault and 2. If the coach feels a player could be tired he can be covered by the spare for that game. Yes players want to play every game but that’s not always possible, well shouldn’t be anyway. Players need resting. I thought the whole team were poor today but credit to Braehaed ( ) they deserved the win.
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Post by Jord v4 on Sept 22, 2018 22:15:07 GMT
Really don't think it deserves one... But OK, to appease you mod types.... Fox Factor (Chip shop version) - Saveloy.
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Post by iginla on Sept 22, 2018 22:40:09 GMT
These games are the ones that make you title winners or not!! At home you need your 2 points no matter who you play. Sometimes when your tired and are under performing you got to grind out the win!! Great win for clan though. Ha, love this guy. He’s dead right though. If you want to win the league you can’t lose more than about 12 games all season,we’ve lost two already !
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Post by iginla on Sept 22, 2018 22:45:28 GMT
4th game in 8 nights shown tonight! Looked tired from the get go. Take nothing from the Clan though, thought they played excellent and pretty much dominated that game! Fife beating Giants as well tonight, Sheffield continuing their luck with last few second winners and Cardiff being Cardiff... Going to be a fun season! Personally I don't get why we agreed to go to Cardiff and Belfast in the same week (With a trip to Coventry in the middle)
At least, we're not playing tomorrow, so hopefully they rest and sort things out
Because we’ve got a clown for a GM who puts other things before what might be the best on ice option for the team.....Never has and never will !
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Post by Jord v4 on Sept 22, 2018 22:51:53 GMT
He’s dead right though. If you want to win the league you can’t lose more than about 12 games all season,we’ve lost two already ! Of course the post is correct. I am very fond of our Cardiff contingent on here.
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Post by Pies on Sept 23, 2018 8:10:52 GMT
Toothless performance. I don’t buy the tiredness factor because well the season is only going to get tougher. Poor decision making by our D. I’m not one to pick and criticise players but Stevie had an absolute stinker last night.
Overall just an abject performance. Thankfully we have no game tonight because we need to regroup and be better for Wednesday.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Sept 23, 2018 8:12:50 GMT
I bought tickets for the Steelers match last night - cost of seats £39. I was charged £41.25, which I queried. I expected to be told an administration charge. Maybe tongue in cheek, but the reply was that it was towards a new scoreboard!
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Post by bobness on Sept 23, 2018 8:18:12 GMT
These games are the ones that make you title winners or not!! At home you need your 2 points no matter who you play. Sometimes when your tired and are under performing you got to grind out the win!! Great win for clan though. Do the Devils win every single game at home? 22 and 6 last season, 21 and 5 in regulation. Best in the league. Panthers 19 and 9, 14 and 7, respectively. Sounds like I missed a cracker. Not. Stats-wise, assuming the game sheet is right (which it hasn't been on several occasions this year), last night takes Olsen to -1 for the season. Perlini "leads" Panthers at -7 so far. Hurtubise actually leads at +6.
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Post by Bagheera on Sept 23, 2018 8:22:53 GMT
I bought tickets for the Steelers match last night - cost of seats £39. I was charged £41.25, which I queried. I expected to be told an administration charge. Maybe tongue in cheek, but the reply was that it was towards a new scoreboard! Well, it's sort of both really. Been discussed on here somewhere before. It's a facilities fee. Which is to pay for maintanance and upgrading of the facility. This will include a new scoreboard from next season. I believe that is probably the big purchase they are currently using to justify it to hockey fans. What will be the reason next season when the charge is still there and scoreboard purchased im not sure.
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Post by Bagheera on Sept 23, 2018 8:27:57 GMT
So, I couldn't attend tonight so I can't comment on the performance first hand. After last weekend I started to think about something. Before I ask my question/make my point i'll be clear that i'm not suddenly looking for another scapegoat nor looking to start a new "witch hunt" now Corey is gone. I'm fairly sure over the last few seasons under Corey it was stated that Corey looked after the forwards amd Rick the defence. For me the last 3 seasons including this one we have had what appears on paper to be a fantastic D line up. Yet, in those seasons and this one to date the D and team D overall has been aweful collectively. With the changes in personel and very similar issues. Could the issue be to do with coaching and systems they are being asked to play. If, IF Rick is still taking the D then is he the constant through these last few poor D/error strewn years. For the last few (3+?) seasons Rick Strachan was in effect a bench coach only as he wasn't involved with training during the week. This was because he apparently wanted to focus more on his business. However I'm led to believe (though I may be wrong) that he is now involved in training once again. For me once Strachan ceased his involvement in training that's when Panthers form dropped further over the final few seasons of Neilsons tenure. That sort of makes sense too I suppose. It is strange though that the same problems appear to be there with the D. Hopefully something can be done to fix the issues at the back. If the problems persist we will struggle to maintain a league challenge for long. Still got plenty of trust that Rich can sort it out.
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Post by devilsdude on Sept 23, 2018 8:55:42 GMT
Yes to be fair devils home form is reason they are champions 2 years running..
I like Olsen but he always seems to be on the ice when you concede. Have a look at the blaze highlights he's on the ice for 2 of there goals also.
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Post by Pies on Sept 23, 2018 9:01:03 GMT
Yes to be fair devils home form is reason they are champions 2 years running.. I like Olsen but he always seems to be on the ice when you concede. Have a look at the blaze highlights he's on the ice for 2 of there goals also. Trust me, our defence is only made weaker by one player right now and Dylan Olsen isn’t that player.
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Post by pantherlee on Sept 23, 2018 9:06:27 GMT
Yes to be fair devils home form is reason they are champions 2 years running.. I like Olsen but he always seems to be on the ice when you concede. Have a look at the blaze highlights he's on the ice for 2 of there goals also. Trust me, our defence is only made weaker by one player right now and Dylan Olsen isn’t that player. Agreed. Stevie Lee was rotten last night. His worst performance i can remember since a couple of seasons ago when he being used as an offensive d-man
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Post by devilsdude on Sept 23, 2018 9:20:56 GMT
Im not saying it's olsens fault. Just doesn't look good for him when he's on the ice for majority of the goals.
I personally like him as a player
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Post by iginla on Sept 23, 2018 9:24:24 GMT
Trust me, our defence is only made weaker by one player right now and Dylan Olsen isn’t that player. Agreed. Stevie Lee was rotten last night. His worst performance i can remember since a couple of seasons ago when he being used as an offensive d-man I haven’t watched any live games only a couple of webcasts,but if Lee is playing with Lépine who isn’t normally offensive,that would suggest Lee is being played as the offensive one of the pair ? We’ve seen him try to do that before and it doesn’t work. Surely that D pairing needs splitting up ? Who are our offensive Dmen anyway ? I seem to recall saying we looked short in this area back in about July.
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Post by pantherlee on Sept 23, 2018 9:43:02 GMT
Defensive pairings are normally
Olsen-Billingsley Hughes-Rissling Lee-Lepine
I think anyway.
Also what is going on with Perlini? He looks a shadow of himself so far this season
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Post by cooperphil156 on Sept 23, 2018 9:55:26 GMT
I bought tickets for the Steelers match last night - cost of seats £39. I was charged £41.25, which I queried. I expected to be told an administration charge. Maybe tongue in cheek, but the reply was that it was towards a new scoreboard! Well, it's sort of both really. Been discussed on here somewhere before. It's a facilities fee. Which is to pay for maintanance and upgrading of the facility. This will include a new scoreboard from next season. I believe that is probably the big purchase they are currently using to justify it to hockey fans. What will be the reason next season when the charge is still there and scoreboard purchased im not sure. Better it came out of the fat wallet of NB and his mates in the Carribean than my pension!!!
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Sept 23, 2018 10:03:53 GMT
Agreed. Stevie Lee was rotten last night. His worst performance i can remember since a couple of seasons ago when he being used as an offensive d-man I haven’t watched any live games only a couple of webcasts,but if Lee is playing with Lépine who isn’t normally offensive,that would suggest Lee is being played as the offensive one of the pair ? We’ve seen him try to do that before and it doesn’t work. Surely that D pairing needs splitting up ? Who are our offensive Dmen anyway ? I seem to recall saying we looked short in this area back in about July. Lee was WAY up the ice last night (although the goal he set up for them he passed straight to a Clan player from behind our own net) and he gets caught out far too much. All they had to do was watch the Clan defence last night to see how it should be done.
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Post by Jord v4 on Sept 23, 2018 10:13:24 GMT
Defensive pairings are normally Olsen-Billingsley Hughes-Rissling Lee-Lepine I think anyway. Also what is going on with Perlini? He looks a shadow of himself so far this season These are the pairings. Billingsley left Olsen high & dry on two goals last night. Hughes-Rissling is the best pair by some distance, although Olsen is the best all round Dman we have imo. Lee-Lepine is random at best.
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Post by ted logan on Sept 23, 2018 10:19:29 GMT
Dire performance. Far and away the worst I’ve witnessed in the Cherno era. Was more like a CN last season job.
Flat, uninspired, devoid of ideas, slow moving, poor passing, turnovers galore and until it got to 1-4 no passion. So disappointing.
Agred with others about Lee, awful last night. Not sure being paired with Lépine is helping though. Olsen was poor too, MOM was a bit of a bad call? None of the D played well. Of the forwards, I thought only Guptill and Pither had half decent games.
Need to dust themselves down and turn it around big time on Wednesday.
Still got faith in Cherno and the boys, hopefully that was a bit of a one off and not a sign of things to come.
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