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Post by Jord v4 on Jun 29, 2018 22:14:18 GMT
He's 3rd 'crash' line. Clearly.
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Post by PantherG on Jun 29, 2018 22:24:11 GMT
Good CV and looks a decent 2nd line signing. Have a feeling might be first line though,in which case a little disappointing numbers wise. A wait and see. We already have several players that will out score him. Cant see how he could be first line. Came very soon after Brown was announced as not coming back. This has got 3rd line, maybe pushing second written all over it. If he’s a second liner then I’m really disappointed, Shuff are talking about signing players who will rotate between the first two lines, so the standard they are after is going to be really high, we need to compete with that, otherwise we will be making no progress.
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Post by tootootrain on Jun 29, 2018 22:41:02 GMT
Yeah, they do a lot of that. Cory Pecker was apparently going to take the league apart... I wouldn't worry about Thompson or Simms banging their gums. The former is on borrowed time and the latter blows smoke up the backside of anything that commits to pulling a pair of skates on in Shuff.
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Post by PantherG on Jun 29, 2018 23:58:42 GMT
Yeah, they do a lot of that. Cory Pecker was apparently going to take the league apart... I wouldn't worry about Thompson or Simms banging their gums. The former is on borrowed time and the latter blows smoke up the backside of anything that commits to pulling a pair of skates on in Shuff. Say what you want they have a have a habit of being around and in with a shout at the run in, they’ll be super motivated to bounce back after the disaster of last season.
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Post by bobness on Jun 30, 2018 11:28:22 GMT
Yeah, they do a lot of that. Cory Pecker was apparently going to take the league apart... I wouldn't worry about Thompson or Simms banging their gums. The former is on borrowed time and the latter blows smoke up the backside of anything that commits to pulling a pair of skates on in Shuff. Say what you want they have a have a habit of being around and in with a shout at the run in, they’ll be super motivated to bounce back after the disaster of last season. Exactly. Back on topic, Henderson is, by all accounts, it seems, a "power forward", but without the traditional power forward type stats. Very interesting, then.
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Post by SteelerBlade on Jun 30, 2018 16:50:33 GMT
You can’t have 12 point scoring forwards or you’d concede for fun! Gotta have the guys like Kevin who will take care of the defensive side of the game as well as use his big frame to create offence.
He’s s guy who will drive the net, use his size to lean on smaller D men to beat them one-on-one, bang in a goal here & there.
What use is he to you with high PIMS and sat in the box?
Looks a good acquisition.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jun 30, 2018 17:14:48 GMT
Thing to take into account with PIMs is fights, if you're not fighting then you'll rack up a lot less PIMs and Kevin Henderson seems to have had only one fight in the last 4 years. Meanwhile guys like Leigh Salters (8, 4 & 4 in his last seasons) + Jeff Brown (7 & 8 last 2 years) have mulitiple fights per year and will rack up lots of PIMs that way.
I'm personally not fussed about him fighting (and I don't think it diminishes him as a power forward) as we've got that covered elsewhere in the lineup. I'm more interested in him forechecking hard, driving the net and getting his linemate's in the points.
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Post by Shaggy on Jun 30, 2018 17:34:05 GMT
Thing to take into account with PIMs is fights, if you're not fighting then you'll rack up a lot less PIMs and Kevin Henderson seems to have had only one fight in the last 4 years. Meanwhile guys like Leigh Salters (8, 4 & 4 in his last seasons) + Jeff Brown (7 & 8 last 2 years) have mulitiple fights per year and will rack up lots of PIMs that way. I'm personally not fussed about him fighting (and I don't think it diminishes him as a power forward) as we've got that covered elsewhere in the lineup. I'm more interested in him forechecking hard, driving the net and getting his linemate's in the points. Agreed. Like I said... he must have been doing something right to have stayed in the AHL for 355 games. It clearly wasn't because he was a huge fighter, and it clearly wasn't because he was a huge points scorer. So... forechecking, defensively-minded, battling along the boards, hard-hitting, winning face-offs (throwing that one in because he's described as winger or centre)... any or all of those would likely be his area of expertise. And all of them are going to be very valuable. Goalscorers and set-up guys are essential, obviously - but so are the guys who make space for them (and shut down space for their counterparts on the opposing team). Henderson sounds like one of those. A proper 'team' player. Or, as he's described on the Panthers' OS, a "team leader" and "a great role player". If I bought into the theory of direct replacements (which I generally don't) he would sound like a direct replacement for (or even upgrade from) Jeff Brown. And I've not heard much criticism of his contribution - quite the opposite. It's all on paper, as always... but Henderson is beginning to sound like a proper piece of the puzzle.
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Post by shinobi on Jun 30, 2018 18:23:15 GMT
You can’t have 12 point scoring forwards or you’d concede for fun! Gotta have the guys like Kevin who will take care of the defensive side of the game as well as use his big frame to create offence. He’s s guy who will drive the net, use his size to lean on smaller D men to beat them one-on-one, bang in a goal here & there. What use is he to you with high PIMS and sat in the box? Looks a good acquisition. Aptly put.
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Post by sevcik on Jun 30, 2018 19:21:53 GMT
Indeed very apt.... Far more so than steelerblade's post on the Devil's inferno forum claiming Panthers (fans) are going round saying weve already won all the trophies to be contested this coming season. Strange as i've not seen those so called comment's anywhere..... The joys of the simple minded....
Back on topic.... The team seems to be coming together nicely. Really looking forward to the season. If used right & is fully recovered from his injury. I think Henderson will be a quality addition to the squad. Really need an offensively mind d-man to complete the defence.
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Post by sevcik on Jun 30, 2018 19:31:06 GMT
Interview with Kevin Henderson upon arrival in Denmark last season. Seems to be some debate whether he is actually a power forward. However Henderson describes himself as a power forward who brings a lot of speed and energy....
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Post by Shaggy on Jun 30, 2018 20:12:56 GMT
Indeed very apt.... Far more so than steelerblade's post on the Devil's inferno forum claiming Panthers (fans) are going round saying weve already won all the trophies to be contested this coming season. Strange as i've not seen those so called comment's anywhere..... It has to be said, Steelerblade... the disparity between your comments here and on the Inferno forum do make you appear somewhat duplicitous. I'd watch that if I were you...
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Post by SteelerBlade on Jun 30, 2018 20:16:46 GMT
Indeed very apt.... Far more so than steelerblade's post on the Devil's inferno forum claiming Panthers (fans) are going round saying weve already won all the trophies to be contested this coming season. Strange as i've not seen those so called comment's anywhere..... It has to be said, Steelerblade... the disparity between your comments here and on the Inferno forum do make you appear somewhat duplicitous. I'd watch that if I were you... Haha. You guys can take things how you like. It's a forum, I gave you my opinion on Mr Henderson, what you do with that opinion is not my concern.
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Post by Shaggy on Jun 30, 2018 20:22:38 GMT
It has to be said, Steelerblade... the disparity between your comments here and on the Inferno forum do make you appear somewhat duplicitous. I'd watch that if I were you... Haha. You guys can take things how you like. It's a forum, I gave you my opinion on Mr Henderson, what you do with that opinion is not my concern. "Take things how you like" Hmmm... Exactly how would you expect us to take that? Like I said... duplicitous.
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Post by SteelerBlade on Jun 30, 2018 20:23:59 GMT
Haha. You guys can take things how you like. It's a forum, I gave you my opinion on Mr Henderson, what you do with that opinion is not my concern. "Take things how you like" Hmmm... Exactly how would you expect us to take that? Like I said... duplicitous. Like I said...... however you like, anyway less of the petty bickering, this is the Henderson thread after all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 20:31:36 GMT
Well explain whay u mean then? Who exactly has said we ll clean up all trophies?
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Post by Jord v4 on Jun 30, 2018 21:27:02 GMT
Time this guy was banned imo, pure two faced troll.
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Post by deke on Jul 2, 2018 10:00:26 GMT
Can we make up stuff as well then? Cool I heard steelers fans saying they are going to sign moose back but play him as forward and the club is going to pay him in fans wives! Steelers fans are well up for it and reckon they got next year sewn up and are going to be invited to join the nhl. Madness
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 2, 2018 15:19:27 GMT
Can we make up stuff as well then? Cool I heard steelers fans saying they are going to sign moose back but play him as forward and the club is going to pay him in fans wives! Steelers fans are well up for it and reckon they got next year sewn up and are going to be invited to join the nhl. Madness Ironically a currency that Moose would be open to accepting, allegedly.
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Post by Shaggy on Jul 2, 2018 16:13:52 GMT
Can we make up stuff as well then? Cool I heard steelers fans saying they are going to sign moose back but play him as forward and the club is going to pay him in fans wives! Steelers fans are well up for it and reckon they got next year sewn up and are going to be invited to join the nhl. Madness Ironically a currency that Moose would be open to accepting, allegedly. Not just off-topic, but also treading a bit close to the line there... a 'discussion' best left for Twitter or whatever, please.
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Post by deke on Jul 2, 2018 17:37:14 GMT
Lol apologies shaggy
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 2, 2018 18:52:02 GMT
Ironically a currency that Moose would be open to accepting, allegedly. Not just off-topic, but also treading a bit close to the line there... a 'discussion' best left for Twitter or whatever, please. Understood & noted for future reference.
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