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Post by EMB on May 28, 2018 19:18:50 GMT
They have acknowledge that he was already returning for his 2nd year what they have done is extended that contract further. As I said earlier on quoting yourself I wouldnt be surprised to see Pither, Gagnon, Bussy & Brown back if all the team are on optionals.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 28, 2018 19:20:03 GMT
They have acknowledge that he was already returning for his 2nd year what they have done is extended that contract further. As I said earlier on quoting yourself I wouldnt be surprised to see Pither, Gagnon, Bussy & Brown back if all the team are on optionals. Pither & Brown aren't on the yr 2 optional.
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Post by EMB on May 28, 2018 19:24:01 GMT
Pither wanted to stay tho’ and if the coach was watching the playoffs he certainly showed what he could do. Brown I really don’t know about, I can’t see him being here for early Aug as he’s getting married, but I hope he considers another year it’s not like he’s over the hill. Again that would also leave Mosey and Lindy here again if coach wanted them
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Post by Jord v4 on May 28, 2018 19:29:11 GMT
Pither wanted to stay tho’ and if the coach was watching the playoffs he certainly showed what he could do. Brown I really don’t know about, I can’t see him being here for early Aug as he’s getting married, but I hope he considers another year it’s not like he’s over the hill. Again that would also leave Mosey and Lindy here again if coach wanted them First off apologies if I was a bit short with you earlier, been a long weekend with the family. If Pither wants to stay then I'd agree with you, why would we not want him back?! He will need a completely new deal though as he was only on a temp contract last season. Brown I imagine will stay, but he isn't on a 2nd yr optional to my knowledge. I don't think he's a FA either though so that tells me he's already signed but just not announced yet.
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Post by PantherG on May 28, 2018 19:29:25 GMT
The thing is though Jord,a “two year optional deal” is of absolutely no use whatsoever to player or team. Because if Panthers didn’t want a player back or the player didn’t want to come back,then neither side can make it happen. So they may just as well be on one year contracts ! 🤔🙄 Well, yes. In theory. It's a protection contract for the club. I'm led to believe Nielson was the driver for it. A player definitely can't go to another EIHL team if the Panthers want to keep him, that's the protection. Sheffield do this with their Brits but have them on three year deals, so they are tied up even more, even those young and upcoming Brits. Good business sense and I bet Giants are swizzled they hadn’t done this with Whistle.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 28, 2018 19:34:50 GMT
Well, yes. In theory. It's a protection contract for the club. I'm led to believe Nielson was the driver for it. A player definitely can't go to another EIHL team if the Panthers want to keep him, that's the protection. Sheffield do this with their Brits but have them on three year deals, so they are tied up even more, even those young and upcoming Brits. Good business sense and I bet Giants are swizzled they hadn’t done this with Whistle. Yes, the Whistle scenario is a classic case of the Giants missing out. I believe Panthers has the same loss with Boxhill going to Giants as well.
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Post by pantherlee on May 28, 2018 19:37:56 GMT
And he was already coming back!!! Thanks for keeping everyone in the dark over that one Panthers. Who else knew he was on a multi year deal? This lack of transparency is what irritates me about Panthers sometimes. Great news though. The most important piece of business we could make this summer Does anyone read what I post on here? Every player in their first year last year who signed from the start of the season was on second year optional. Optional means if first Panthers & the player is happy then they return. Reading between the lines all that has happened with Perlini is a two year deal where we are clearly paying him more than last season. No disrespect but I don’t want hear it from you. I want to hear it from the panthers
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Post by Jord v4 on May 28, 2018 19:40:57 GMT
Does anyone read what I post on here? Every player in their first year last year who signed from the start of the season was on second year optional. Optional means if first Panthers & the player is happy then they return. Reading between the lines all that has happened with Perlini is a two year deal where we are clearly paying him more than last season. No disrespect but I don’t want hear it from you. I want to hear it from the panthers No offence taken & completely understood, Panthers have a long & successful history of keeping their fans firmly in the dark. If I can impart any actual knowledge to help a little then I will.
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Post by Pies on May 28, 2018 19:43:26 GMT
If Bussieres wears a Panthers shirt again, I truly question the new coaches judgment.
Anyway, Perlini - heck of a player!
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Post by iginla on May 28, 2018 19:55:56 GMT
The thing is though Jord,a “two year optional deal” is of absolutely no use whatsoever to player or team. Because if Panthers didn’t want a player back or the player didn’t want to come back,then neither side can make it happen. So they may just as well be on one year contracts ! 🤔🙄 Well, yes. In theory. It's a protection contract for the club. I'm led to believe Nielson was the driver for it. A player definitely can't go to another EIHL team if the Panthers want to keep him, that's the protection. Can they make the no other EIHL team thing stick then ? That would prevent Mosey going to Cardiff next year if they can. 😉
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Post by Jord v4 on May 28, 2018 19:59:50 GMT
Well, yes. In theory. It's a protection contract for the club. I'm led to believe Nielson was the driver for it. A player definitely can't go to another EIHL team if the Panthers want to keep him, that's the protection. Can they make the no other EIHL team thing stick then ? That would prevent Mosey going to Cardiff next year then. 😉 Only at the end of yr 1, Iggy.... Perlini was protected for example. I'm not sure what deal Mosey is on actually as he has already been at the club before. I'd like to think he's protected from other EIHL teams this coming season.
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Post by EMB on May 28, 2018 20:01:52 GMT
Do you think they would come in for him again Iggy. He didn’t have the best of years with injury and playing out of position (not his fault) I just wonder whether that would alter his value as such. If he stays then he needs to be up front it suits him better.
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Post by iginla on May 28, 2018 20:06:52 GMT
Can they make the no other EIHL team thing stick then ? That would prevent Mosey going to Cardiff next year then. 😉 Only at the end of yr 1, Iggy.... Perlini was protected for example. I'm not sure what deal Mosey is on actually as he has already been at the club before. I'd like to think he's protected from other EIHL teams this coming season. I’m surprised if they could make the no other EIHL team thing stick. Would have thought in this day and age of silly laws and rules etc some smart ass would have claimed it was preventing them from working,infringing on their human rights or something equally as silly.
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Post by iginla on May 28, 2018 20:12:42 GMT
Do you think they would come in for him again Iggy. He didn’t have the best of years with injury and playing out of position (not his fault) I just wonder whether that would alter his value as such. If he stays then he needs to be up front it suits him better. I’d say for sure they would be in for Mosey again,he’s a fan favourite and ticket seller. Whether they get him though I think would depend where Corey ends up.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 28, 2018 20:14:07 GMT
Only at the end of yr 1, Iggy.... Perlini was protected for example. I'm not sure what deal Mosey is on actually as he has already been at the club before. I'd like to think he's protected from other EIHL teams this coming season. I’m surprised if they could make the no other EIHL team thing stick. Would have thought in this day and age of silly laws and rules etc some smart ass would have claimed it was preventing them from working,infringing on their human rights or something equally as silly. Maybe Iggy, maybe. I know other high profile EIHL teams have these kind of contracts as well though.
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Post by Caesar on May 28, 2018 20:17:29 GMT
Brown, Pither, and Mosey id happily take back. Quality players who i would like to see under a different coach. Bussieres, oh dear lord no. All i can see when i close my eyes is him missing that open net against Sheffield in the semi final. Needs to go for that alone
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Post by texpef on May 28, 2018 20:18:15 GMT
Great signing best news this weekend... incidentally are season tickets coming to an end for early bird?..
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Post by PantherB on May 28, 2018 20:19:20 GMT
Sheffield do this with their Brits but have them on three year deals, so they are tied up even more, even those young and upcoming Brits. Good business sense and I bet Giants are swizzled they hadn’t done this with Whistle. Yes, the Whistle scenario is a classic case of the Giants missing out. I believe Panthers has the same loss with Boxhill going to Giants as well. Boxill wasn't a particularly big loss for us though, he's not a good player and simply just a case of people like him because he's small and gets in the dirty areas. Provided very little besides that. But anyway. I really hope we re-sign Pither, got the potential to really tear it up. I genuinely feel that Brown won't be coming back though, his attitude seems to portray a guy who is done or not keen on resuming playing professionally. Don't want Bussieres back, he's got potential and could be completely different under Rich but last season was painful and not a risk I want to take. Gagnon, 50/50. He was as tough as they come for sure but I feel we can do better.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 28, 2018 20:31:34 GMT
Yes, the Whistle scenario is a classic case of the Giants missing out. I believe Panthers has the same loss with Boxhill going to Giants as well. Boxill wasn't a particularly big loss for us though, he's not a good player and simply just a case of people like him because he's small and gets in the dirty areas. Provided very little besides that. But anyway. I really hope we re-sign Pither, got the potential to really tear it up. I genuinely feel that Brown won't be coming back though, his attitude seems to portray a guy who is done or not keen on resuming playing professionally. Don't want Bussieres back, he's got potential and could be completely different under Rich but last season was painful and not a risk I want to take. Gagnon, 50/50. He was as tough as they come for sure but I feel we can do better. Hey Ben, there's a pattern to the signings imo... Brits first, players wanted by Rich who are new to the club.... Maybe high profile players next e.g. Mosey, Garnett, Pither....
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Post by PantherG on May 28, 2018 20:43:03 GMT
Boxill wasn't a particularly big loss for us though, he's not a good player and simply just a case of people like him because he's small and gets in the dirty areas. Provided very little besides that. But anyway. I really hope we re-sign Pither, got the potential to really tear it up. I genuinely feel that Brown won't be coming back though, his attitude seems to portray a guy who is done or not keen on resuming playing professionally. Don't want Bussieres back, he's got potential and could be completely different under Rich but last season was painful and not a risk I want to take. Gagnon, 50/50. He was as tough as they come for sure but I feel we can do better. Hey Ben, there's a pattern to the signings imo... Brits first, players wanted by Rich who are new to the club.... Maybe high profile players next e.g. Mosey, Garnett, Pither.... I am sure originally Garnett was already confirmed on a two year deal, way back that he was coming back for his second season on a newsfeed with a few other items on it. But it appears that things have changed on that front and was probably before Rick was in charge, so I am sure he has gone...
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Post by iginla on May 28, 2018 20:55:02 GMT
Hey Ben, there's a pattern to the signings imo... Brits first, players wanted by Rich who are new to the club.... Maybe high profile players next e.g. Mosey, Garnett, Pither.... I am sure originally Garnett was already confirmed on a two year deal, way back that he was coming back for his second season on a newsfeed with a few other items on it. But it appears that things have changed on that front and was probably before Rick was in charge, so I am sure he has gone... Garnett was definitely confirmed as on a two year deal from the day he signed. If he’s not back it’s got to be because Rich doesn’t want his goalie distracted by Uni.
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Post by Jord v4 on May 28, 2018 20:56:24 GMT
Hey Ben, there's a pattern to the signings imo... Brits first, players wanted by Rich who are new to the club.... Maybe high profile players next e.g. Mosey, Garnett, Pither.... I am sure originally Garnett was already confirmed on a two year deal, way back that he was coming back for his second season on a newsfeed with a few other items on it. But it appears that things have changed on that front and was probably before Rick was in charge, so I am sure he has gone... Maybe... But he hasn't gone yet. He's on the 2nd yr optional contract. No further news on him yet. Although as I've stated in other threads I don't believe we will be back next season.
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Post by Gilly on May 28, 2018 21:28:12 GMT
And he was already coming back!!! Thanks for keeping everyone in the dark over that one Panthers. Who else knew he was on a multi year deal? This lack of transparency is what irritates me about Panthers sometimes. Great news though. The most important piece of business we could make this summer Does anyone read what I post on here? Every player in their first year last year who signed from the start of the season was on second year optional. Optional means if first Panthers & the player is happy then they return. Reading between the lines all that has happened with Perlini is a two year deal where we are clearly paying him more than last season. Hopefully given him some of the wad Clarke would have been on to keep him here - I certainly am not against that
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Post by EMB on May 28, 2018 21:45:55 GMT
I am sure originally Garnett was already confirmed on a two year deal, way back that he was coming back for his second season on a newsfeed with a few other items on it. But it appears that things have changed on that front and was probably before Rick was in charge, so I am sure he has gone... If he’s not back it’s got to be because Rich doesn’t want his goalie distracted by Uni. or flying ...lol
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Post by spik on May 29, 2018 10:43:37 GMT
Can you entice a player in with 2 year Uni then drop them after one season? If that player can't find a club. What then?
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