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Apr 23, 2018 10:46:37 GMT
Post by Gilly on Apr 23, 2018 10:46:37 GMT
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Post by Yotes on Apr 23, 2018 10:54:48 GMT
Think this can have its own thread Gilly.
Can't say I'm overly bothered that he won't be returning.
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Apr 23, 2018 11:01:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 11:01:49 GMT
Interesting that when you translate the article, it says last season was "his first real retirement season ice". One of the better imports from last year, I personally wouldn't have minded him coming back, but in 2/3 years people will have forgotten him so it's not a major loss. Best of luck Sauve.
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Apr 23, 2018 11:40:49 GMT
Post by BigLad on Apr 23, 2018 11:40:49 GMT
I'd have taken him back. You need good attacking d-men and for me he was one of the best in the league last year.
Needed to be paired with a proper stay-at-home d-man to be totally effective though.
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Apr 23, 2018 12:12:52 GMT
Post by ashfieldpanther on Apr 23, 2018 12:12:52 GMT
Interesting that when you translate the article, it says last season was "his first real retirement season ice". One of the better imports from last year, I personally wouldn't have minded him coming back, but in 2/3 years people will have forgotten him so it's not a major loss. Best of luck Sauve. yes I wondered what that meant. Are they saying that our league is where old timers go to play out their days, i thought that was France or the NAHL. Or is it just a bad translation. Not tat it matters, he's gone back to a league where he probably won't get near the CHL again. Or back to a decent spot in Canada. So it looks to me like he's taken the easier option.
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Post by bobness on Apr 23, 2018 12:40:07 GMT
Good luck to him. He just didn't do it for me, to be brutally honest. Statistically just about OK, but led the team in minuses. Yes, he almost certainly led the team in icetime as well, but in the end, had similar stats to Matt Stanisz of the Storm. No, me neither.
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Apr 23, 2018 12:46:29 GMT
Post by Yotes on Apr 23, 2018 12:46:29 GMT
he's gone back to a league where he probably won't get near the CHL again The EBEL have got 3 CHL slots for next season (admittedly none of them going to Zagreb this time out), why would he have less chance of getting back to the CHL than here with our 1 slot?
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Sauve
Apr 23, 2018 13:01:16 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 13:01:16 GMT
Clearly a very talented player who had a great blast from the blue line but for all his game winners he cost us more than a few goals with brainless penalties.
If we sign somebody with his skill but more intelligence/leadership on the ice then I'll be very happy.
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Apr 23, 2018 13:17:33 GMT
Post by Shaggy on Apr 23, 2018 13:17:33 GMT
Bye! <waves>
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Apr 23, 2018 13:27:42 GMT
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Post by pantherlee on Apr 23, 2018 13:27:42 GMT
A bit of a let down for me in the end. Clearly very talented but also very inconsistent. Was hoping for him to our answer to Andrew Hotham or Ben O'Connor but never really pulled it off
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Apr 23, 2018 14:10:11 GMT
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Post by dill1015 on Apr 23, 2018 14:10:11 GMT
Very talented player who i would of had back. But not gutted hes gone. Will free up a large chunk of the bugget i imagine.
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Apr 23, 2018 16:02:07 GMT
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Post by Pies on Apr 23, 2018 16:02:07 GMT
I liked him. But goes to show how different people see players in different lights.
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Post by PantherB on Apr 23, 2018 16:10:50 GMT
I thought he was easily our best import besides Pither and Galbraith.
Skated better than anyone, bullet of a shot, great passing, hard hitting and very confident.
He did take stupid penalties but I guess that comes with being perhaps too confident.
I'm not gutted he's gone but he will be pretty tough to replace or vastly improve on. Especially compared to the likes of Spang.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Apr 23, 2018 16:34:05 GMT
Scored points. Scored some good goals. Prone to amateur turnovers. Took silly penalties.
Naturally the best player we had but it was all the lapses in concentration etc that means he’s largely a forgettable player from a forgettable season.
Although he was the MVP (not sure about it myself), you couldn’t begin to compare him with the performances of guys like Eric Werner.
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Apr 23, 2018 17:15:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 17:15:27 GMT
Let's be honest he was one of Panthers better imports! Gifted offensive d man and it won't be easy replacing him
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Apr 23, 2018 17:23:17 GMT
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Post by wgray on Apr 23, 2018 17:23:17 GMT
Disappointed to have lost Yann, he was easily our best defence man last season. Some big players not coming back so far, let’s hope Rich can pull some gems out of the bag.
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Apr 23, 2018 18:14:42 GMT
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Post by ted logan on Apr 23, 2018 18:14:42 GMT
This is a weird one for me, although I expect to have the same feeling with many of last years imports:-
Leaves = meh Stays = meh
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Apr 23, 2018 18:40:29 GMT
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Apr 23, 2018 18:40:29 GMT
he's gone back to a league where he probably won't get near the CHL again The EBEL have got 3 CHL slots for next season (admittedly none of them going to Zagreb this time out), why would he have less chance of getting back to the CHL than here with our 1 slot? Brain freeze. Forgot that Zagreb play in the EBEL.
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Sauve
Apr 23, 2018 20:32:48 GMT
Post by bobness on Apr 23, 2018 20:32:48 GMT
Disappointed to have lost Yann, he was easily our best defence man last season. I assume you have a different definition of "best" than me. If Sauve was the best D man last year, no wonder Panthers struggled.
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Post by Shaggy on Apr 23, 2018 20:38:48 GMT
Disappointed to have lost Yann, he was easily our best defence man last season. I assume you have a different definition of "best" than me. If Sauve was the best D man last year, no wonder Panthers struggled. Agreed... Sauve was highly skilled, no question... but also prone to taking stupid penalties, making horrendous giveaways and forgetting that the first job of a defenceman is - surprise, surprise - to defend! 'Best' D-man - based on actual defending, not scoring points - for me was Tim Billingsley. Solid, not flashy, just got on with the job.
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Apr 23, 2018 20:43:07 GMT
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Post by ted logan on Apr 23, 2018 20:43:07 GMT
I assume you have a different definition of "best" than me. If Sauve was the best D man last year, no wonder Panthers struggled. Agreed... Sauve was highly skilled, no question... but also prone to taking stupid penalties, making horrendous giveaways and forgetting that the first job of a defenceman is - surprise, surprise - to defend! 'Best' D-man - based on actual defending, not scoring points - for me was Tim Billingsley. Solid, not flashy, just got on with the job. Thought Brisebois was our best until his premature departure. Comfortably.
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Apr 23, 2018 21:07:22 GMT
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Post by wgray on Apr 23, 2018 21:07:22 GMT
Disappointed to have lost Yann, he was easily our best defence man last season. I assume you have a different definition of "best" than me. If Sauve was the best D man last year, no wonder Panthers struggled. I meant in terms of ability, maybe not application, as has been said his problems were discipline and the fact he took risks. I know you’ve collected the stats and he’s obviously not the best numbers wise, so who was?
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Apr 23, 2018 21:35:09 GMT
Post by simonm on Apr 23, 2018 21:35:09 GMT
What an absolute crock !
Based on the fact that she took no penalties, didn't once cough up the puck and always swept up any lose rubbish my mother was the best defenceman for Panthers last year !
"Based on ability, not application "
And people wonder why we get what we deserve, when folk say stuff like that.
Based on performance, over a range of defenceman characteristics !
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Apr 23, 2018 22:58:30 GMT
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Post by shinobi on Apr 23, 2018 22:58:30 GMT
As Ted Logan aptly put, “meh.”
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Post by Yotes on Apr 23, 2018 23:26:32 GMT
Based on the fact that she took no penalties, didn't once cough up the puck and always swept up any lose rubbish my mother was the best defenceman for Panthers last year ! Terrible disciplinary record though, not shy of a bit of stick work. (For anyone new to the forum, Simon's mum gets mentioned. A lot.)
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