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Post by vercingetorix1966 on Feb 6, 2018 12:28:21 GMT
I'm thinking this place should be a heck of a lot quieter next season judging by some of the posts above. Nice to see Sauve get a Tony Hand assist on the first goal! Hopefully Derlago will claim what is rightfully his. :-) That depends if Black has got his head out of his hairy bum and sacked/not renewed Neilsons contract ! If Black was actually a fan of the Panthers he would have given him a bigger budget before and then having failed he would have got rid. The fact he’s a businessman and the money keeps rolling in doesn’t inspire me that he will. He would have to face an unprecedented revolt amongst the fan base and let’s face it unless any of the management read this forum they could be forgiven for thinking everything is fine.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 12:37:18 GMT
He's failed this year. Year on year he has a decent budget and can't motivate. After tomorrow night he ll be relying on the playoffs for his only success and that looks like light years away right now .
Someone needs to explain to Black Sports should be a results driven business !!
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Post by vercingetorix1966 on Feb 6, 2018 12:50:30 GMT
100% he’s failed to motivate season on season. I don’t doubt he’s got a competitive budget but as others have said if he was given just the takings from one sell out game he could get 5 or 6 better quality players who could make all the difference. The fans want the league but the powers that be are happy with cup wins because it allows them to claim success whilst banking the money. If Black was a fan he would have given Corey a better budget and then if he failed he would have fired him by now. As it is this year could be the straw that broke the camels back. I can’t see us winning anything so it will be interesting to see what Black does.
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Post by grrm on Feb 6, 2018 12:56:36 GMT
100% he’s failed to motivate season on season. I don’t doubt he’s got a competitive budget but as others have said if he was given just the takings from one sell out game he could get 5 or 6 better quality players who could make all the difference. The fans want the league but the powers that be are happy with cup wins because it allows them to claim success whilst banking the money. If Black was a fan he would have given Corey a better budget and then if he failed he would have fired him by now. As it is this year could be the straw that broke the camels back. I can’t see us winning anything so it will be interesting to see what Black does. Corey won't be back next season. It is clear he is stale and "spent" at this club, he knows this too. He will walk 100% You read it hear!
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Post by vercingetorix1966 on Feb 6, 2018 13:07:15 GMT
100% he’s failed to motivate season on season. I don’t doubt he’s got a competitive budget but as others have said if he was given just the takings from one sell out game he could get 5 or 6 better quality players who could make all the difference. The fans want the league but the powers that be are happy with cup wins because it allows them to claim success whilst banking the money. If Black was a fan he would have given Corey a better budget and then if he failed he would have fired him by now. As it is this year could be the straw that broke the camels back. I can’t see us winning anything so it will be interesting to see what Black does. Corey won't be back next season. It is clear he is stale and "spent" at this club, he knows this too. He will walk 100% You read it hear! It could happen that way. He’s always been a laconic kind of guy but lately on those Zynomix interviews barely minutes after defeats he sounded about as despondent as I can ever remember him being. I guess he might have walked before if his family life wasn’t so settled here.
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Post by iginla on Feb 6, 2018 13:32:14 GMT
I agree. I think he will walk,he should do because surely even Corey can see he needs a new challenge away from the EIHL. Walk or sacked,you can bet your life that the press release will say “he’s opted to persue another opportunity elsewhere”.......probably one that was just too good to turn down. Haha 😂😂 Panthers won’t ever admit they had to sack him,you know what they’re like !
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Post by Yotes on Feb 6, 2018 13:37:04 GMT
Believe it when I see it. If he had ambition beyond the Elite League, would he still be here? Doubt it.
Moran loves him, Black doesn't care.
I'll be surprised if he's not here next year.
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Post by vercingetorix1966 on Feb 6, 2018 13:39:37 GMT
I don’t think it matters whether he’s sacked or walks, the main thing is that he goes. Then let the fun and games begin. It would be interesting to see the calibre of coaches that would both apply and rule themselves out. Some no doubt wouldn’t want to work under Moran. So potentially he’d have a large say in who gets appointed from a pool of applicants made smaller by his presence in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 13:43:33 GMT
Believe it when I see it. If he had ambition beyond the Elite League, would he still be here? Doubt it. Moran loves him, Black doesn't care. I'll be surprised if he's not here next year. That's because he very well knows in any other league or not a more pro active team He (Neilson) knows he wouldn't last a season that's why he knows the eihl is his level if he and when he leaves he ll end up coaching a junior team because that's his level .(similar to what Richardson ended up doing)
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Post by Yotes on Feb 6, 2018 13:57:48 GMT
Exactly, so why leave? Look how hard a life that guy in Brampton had (story on the other thread), bet he gets paid way less than Neilson too.
He's got it made here, provided he keeps Gary on side. Doesn't seem to have an issue doing that.
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Post by iginla on Feb 6, 2018 15:42:57 GMT
Exactly, so why leave? Look how hard a life that guy in Brampton had (story on the other thread), bet he gets paid way less than Neilson too. He's got it made here, provided he keeps Gary on side. Doesn't seem to have an issue doing that. And that's a big part of what's wrong at Panthers,because Moran and Neilson both know how to play each other's tune. Moran wants a coach who won't give him any trouble whatsoever and Neilson knows if he pulls the right strings and says the right things with Moran,then Moran will cover his backside with Mr Black. Trouble is it all adds up to growing frustration amongst the fans when they can see the club so obviously taking the pee. That then leads to a split and bad feeling between the fans and the club,an unhappy atmosphere and ultimately big problems.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 6, 2018 15:50:51 GMT
Trouble is it all adds up to growing frustration amongst some fans when they can see the club so obviously taking the pee. That then leads to a split and bad feeling between some fans and the club,a partly unhappy atmosphere and ultimately ignorable problems, until those fans booger off. Fixed that for you I think the atmosphere on here, and if you read the Twitter replies to yet another loss, can rather make the club look in a worse place than the match-night (non-)atmosphere would suggest. I genuinely can't see anything changing until Moran is ousted. And I can't see that happening until he's carried out in a box.
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Post by iginla on Feb 6, 2018 16:27:48 GMT
I agree about Moran Yotes.
But it's like club spin v fan feelings....which is correct ? It's like the club are just in total denial that there's anything wrong,they're always trying to spin things in an over the top good light instead of even remotely saying it how it is.
Even today.....listen to the Moran/Sauve radio interview. Moran can't even get that right,he says in the previous second leg of the CC final against Belfast we were 4 goals down coming home and then won in overtime.
If my old memory serves me correctly,we were 3 goals down and won on pen shots ! 🙄
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Post by vercingetorix1966 on Feb 6, 2018 16:31:12 GMT
I agree about Moran Yotes. But it's like club spin v fan feelings....which is correct ? It's like the club are just in total denial that there's anything wrong,they're always trying to spin things in an over the top good light instead of even remotely saying it how it is. Even today.....listen to the Moran/Sauve radio interview. Moran can't even get that right,he says in the previous second leg of the CC final against Belfast we were 4 goals down coming home and then won in overtime. If my old memory serves me correctly,we were 3 goals down and won on pen shots ! 🙄 We were 4 down until Farmer scored to make it 5-2 away and as you say we won on penalty shots with Kalus getting the winner. Incredible that he doesn’t remember that.
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Post by iginla on Feb 6, 2018 16:34:07 GMT
I agree about Moran Yotes. But it's like club spin v fan feelings....which is correct ? It's like the club are just in total denial that there's anything wrong,they're always trying to spin things in an over the top good light instead of even remotely saying it how it is. Even today.....listen to the Moran/Sauve radio interview. Moran can't even get that right,he says in the previous second leg of the CC final against Belfast we were 4 goals down coming home and then won in overtime. If my old memory serves me correctly,we were 3 goals down and won on pen shots ! 🙄 We were 4 down until Farmer scored to make it 5-2 away and as you say we won on penalty shots with Kalus getting the winner. Incredible that he doesn’t remember that. I was right then....as usual ! 😆 Lol
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Post by vercingetorix1966 on Feb 6, 2018 16:36:51 GMT
Change your user name to the Infallible Iginla 😂😂
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Post by Yotes on Feb 6, 2018 16:48:53 GMT
Moran can't even get that right,he says in the previous second leg of the CC final against Belfast we were 4 goals down coming home and then won in overtime. Maybe his mind's going. Sounds more like our playoff loss to Sheffield last season, or The Last Stand of the Accommodation Manager, as I like to call it. I was actually thinking of that CC final last week after our defeat, that was Adey's Belfast I think. Can't really see it happening again, for one thing we had the 2nd leg at our place.
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Post by simonm on Feb 6, 2018 19:40:44 GMT
I'm thinking this place should be a heck of a lot quieter next season judging by some of the posts above. Nice to see Sauve get a Tony Hand assist on the first goal! Hopefully Derlago will claim what is rightfully his. :-) Oh not going to a game doesn't make one quieter.....
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Post by iginla on Feb 6, 2018 20:39:10 GMT
Change your user name to the Infallible Iginla 😂😂 Perhaps Yotes will do that. He's very good at changing things on my profile ! 😑😤 Lol
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Post by ted logan on Feb 6, 2018 22:06:30 GMT
I agree about Moran Yotes. But it's like club spin v fan feelings....which is correct ? It's like the club are just in total denial that there's anything wrong,they're always trying to spin things in an over the top good light instead of even remotely saying it how it is. Even today.....listen to the Moran/Sauve radio interview. Moran can't even get that right,he says in the previous second leg of the CC final against Belfast we were 4 goals down coming home and then won in overtime. If my old memory serves me correctly,we were 3 goals down and won on pen shots ! 🙄 We were 4 down until Farmer scored to make it 5-2 away and as you say we won on penalty shots with Kalus getting the winner. Incredible that he doesn’t remember that. What a night that was! Definitely right up there as one of the very best of the Neilson era. All started with a huge hit from Leigh Salters on no neck Elfring behind their net. Finished off with the Kalus PS to take the trophy. All tainted slightly at the end when some gobby, grey haired old fart shouted down the mic so he was centre of attention as usual. A top, top night otherwise though and definitely one that will live long in the memory.
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