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Post by PantherB on Feb 3, 2018 21:36:22 GMT
I’m confused by the score as I didn’t watch the game. How did they score an empty net (according to elite league site) when the score was 4-4? Why did we not have a NM in? Wasn't any empty net goals, must've pressed the wrong button. Garnett was yanked for Galbraith after the 4th though.
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Post by tootootrain on Feb 3, 2018 21:38:08 GMT
A team that promised so much early on is just crashing and burning now. Things at this club are so stale The Corey Neilson touch. Bring in talented players and coach it out of them. No wonder confidence is so low, the individual players know they can do better, but are playing for a coach who can somehow make the whole far less than the sum of its parts! Time to bin Neilson and the relic who has happily kept him in a job all these years. Of course they'll no doubt get a result against Dundee tomorrow and all will be right again in Panthers Towers. If getting hammered every game between now and the end of the season was the only way to see the back of Neilson is it an acceptable price to pay?
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Post by Yotes on Feb 3, 2018 21:46:21 GMT
I see Cardiff and Belfast have both managed to take 3 points from their double header, so we're further back on both whatever happens tomorrow.
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Post by Rob Scott on Feb 3, 2018 21:52:47 GMT
I see Cardiff and Belfast have both managed to take 3 points from their double header, so we're further back on both whatever happens tomorrow. Does it matter? We (such as it is) should be more concerned with 9th than 1st. Absolutely horrific season yet again. For the supporters anyway.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 3, 2018 21:59:45 GMT
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Post by ted logan on Feb 3, 2018 22:06:39 GMT
Yeah but have they got a shirt auction coming up? A quiz night? We’re clearly the benchmark that other clubs aspire too.
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Post by wgray on Feb 3, 2018 22:19:42 GMT
In all seriousness we didn’t play bad going forward we just give cheap goals away, allllllllllll the time.
Their 1st Lee was at fault, why is he trying to grab that puck out of the air, left a 2 on 1.
Their 2nd, Garnett has to save that, that was very poor, straight at the pad and in.
The 3rd, another silly penalty from Billingsley to give them the 5 on 3.
Their 4th, Lacho gives the puck away, why didn’t he get it deep? Then we are slow with the line change on D and they skate in and are clinical.
The 5th, another daft penalty, albeit harsh but the fact that we let them get to the net so easily at the end sums it up.
And why didn’t Neilson give Tetlow a few shifts when we were 3-1 up, keep it fresh.
You could have predicted how the game was going to pan out before it was played, especially the late winner. When’s it our turn to do that to them?!!
I feel like I’ve been punched in the stomach.
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Post by jd on Feb 3, 2018 22:22:39 GMT
Time to drop Garnett, he’s garbage. His stats are awful, he’s not a first choice nettie.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 3, 2018 22:24:09 GMT
Time to drop Garnett, he’s garbage. His stats are awful, he’s not a first choice nettie. You missed off "He's here for 2 years".
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Post by jd on Feb 3, 2018 22:26:59 GMT
Time to drop Garnett, he’s garbage. His stats are awful, he’s not a first choice nettie. You missed off "He's here for 2 years". 2 years or not, release him.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 3, 2018 22:32:10 GMT
I doubt we can release him, he's doing the uni course. Would imagine part of that is that it's a guaranteed 2 years.
Another masterstroke from the club, getting a netminder on that deal without seeing how he does in the Elite League. His confidence is probably completely shot, given it's been made very clear that Neilson doesn't rate him.
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 3, 2018 22:35:04 GMT
You missed off "He's here for 2 years". 2 years or not, release him. Don't think thats gonna happen. Would imagine he has a cast Iron contract to go with uni deal and his past pedigree. He has shown his class at times but he just hasn't been able to bring it domestically at all. For me we have to work around it. For the remainder of this season Galbraith is firm number 1. Next season we ensure we again have a better number 1 than Garnett. I'd like it to be Galbraith again. As with the majority of this team he has proved what he is capable of. For whatever reason has has slumped along with the rest of them. I would really really like to see this same group of players under a different coach.
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Post by jd on Feb 3, 2018 22:45:14 GMT
2 years or not, release him. Don't think thats gonna happen. Would imagine he has a cast Iron contract to go with uni deal and his past pedigree. He has shown his class at times but he just hasn't been able to bring it domestically at all. For me we have to work around it. For the remainder of this season Galbraith is firm number 1. Next season we ensure we again have a better number 1 than Garnett. I'd like it to be Galbraith again. As with the majority of this team he has proved what he is capable of. For whatever reason has has slumped along with the rest of them. I would really really like to see this same group of players under a different coach. Like you say, new coach would be interesting. Played very well in the CHL, bang average in the league
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Post by Yotes on Feb 3, 2018 22:58:51 GMT
Well he's been thrown under the bus by Neilson tonight on the "radio".
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Feb 3, 2018 23:02:55 GMT
I doubt we can release him, he's doing the uni course. Would imagine part of that is that it's a guaranteed 2 years. Another masterstroke from the club, getting a netminder on that deal without seeing how he does in the Elite League. His confidence is probably completely shot, given it's been made very clear that Neilson doesn't rate him. One of few things Corey actually gets right is to prefer Galbraith to Garnett. I’ve been a bit stunned actually by Garnett in the league, thought it should be his bread and butter (didn’t he get KHL keeper of the month last season?!). Although I wouldn’t be surprised if Garnett, with his age and experience, soon sussed out to only put in effort when the rest of the team does - CHL stats reflect the team’s effort & interest levels
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Post by Yotes on Feb 3, 2018 23:19:18 GMT
Nothing wrong with preferring Galbraith, he's better. Everything wrong with the idiots signing up a netminder for 2 years sight unseen. Are we really going to be having a backup netminder on a uni deal? Absolute madness. Black should sack Moran and Neilson for that alone (and then sell up)
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Post by iginla on Feb 3, 2018 23:28:43 GMT
Nothing wrong with preferring Galbraith, he's better. Everything wrong with the idiots signing up a netminder for 2 years sight unseen. Are we really going to be having a backup netminder on a uni deal? Absolute madness. Black should sack Moran and Neilson for that alone (and then sell up) It's quite probably the Uni deals that are screwing some players up. Very odd that Garnett who looked very good in the CHL suddenly went right off form as soon as Uni started in earnest. And now he's nowhere near what he should be,but his training time will suffer because of Uni and he plays so infrequently now that's he's always going to be struggling for match sharpness when he does play. Jeff Brown too,I was told he was struggling with his Uni work this year,which may explain why he's been poor apart from a few games more recently.
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Post by vercingetorix1966 on Feb 3, 2018 23:45:24 GMT
Nothing wrong with preferring Galbraith, he's better. Everything wrong with the idiots signing up a netminder for 2 years sight unseen. Are we really going to be having a backup netminder on a uni deal? Absolute madness. Black should sack Moran and Neilson for that alone (and then sell up) It's quite probably the Uni deals that are screwing some players up. Very odd that Garnett who looked very good in the CHL suddenly went right off form as soon as Uni started in earnest. And now he's nowhere near what he should be,but his training time will suffer because of Uni and he plays so infrequently now that's he's always going to be struggling for match sharpness when he does play. Jeff Brown too,I was told he was struggling with his Uni work this year,which may explain why he's been poor apart from a few games more recently. When Matt Ryan was here the plan was for him to stay for two years and start his masters in the second. Corey had him in for his exit meeting to be told he wasn’t wanted for the second year. This happened to a few players. It’s surely no accident we’ve subsequently had a few players like Dimmen, Waugh, Brown and now Garnett on two year uni deals. I’m sure their agents made certain they had cast iron deals that started with uni in the first year. Unfortunately it means we get lumbered with them.
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Post by shinobi on Feb 4, 2018 8:16:24 GMT
I see Cardiff and Belfast have both managed to take 3 points from their double header, so we're further back on both whatever happens tomorrow. Does it matter? We (such as it is) should be more concerned with 9th than 1st. Absolutely horrific season yet again. For the supporters anyway. I’d laugh if Panthers failed to qualify for the playoffs. Might give the organisation a kick up the backside.
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Post by wildwood on Feb 4, 2018 8:54:56 GMT
Going on last night's performance, it was a pretty competitive game but the difference was a couple of soft goals given up ... defensively poor against speed & your nettie not picking up. Other than that, pretty even game but Steelers edged it
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Post by dp on Feb 4, 2018 9:00:54 GMT
The uni deals are just another way for Black to save some money. Get the “franchise” players in on uni deals, so all you have to pay for is the fillers. Perfect.
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Post by dill1015 on Feb 4, 2018 9:03:54 GMT
Garnett is capable of making out of this world saves, followed by letting in a bread and butter shot 1 minute later. Thats no good if you have title ambitions.
The standard i hold all keepers to is Kwall. For me hes the best keeper this leagues had because of his consistency of so many seasons. You could always rely on him to make his 90% of easy saves. And then he had that ability to rob somone blind on top of that. Thats what counts though. Can you always hit that 90% game in game out. Garnet cant and as such should be dropped.
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Post by mardibum on Feb 4, 2018 9:37:54 GMT
Well, personally I had a great time. Great atmosphere, supportive fans, nice pint before the game, exciting and with a good result. COME ON YOU PIES!
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 4, 2018 9:54:43 GMT
Well, personally I had a great time. Great atmosphere, supportive fans, nice pint before the game, exciting and with a good result. COME ON YOU PIES! Me too. Only I had a fiver on 4-1 aswell. 😁 Unfortunatly I came home and watched the webcast.
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Post by Lawman on Feb 4, 2018 12:41:47 GMT
In all seriousness we didn’t play bad going forward we just give cheap goals away, allllllllllll the time. Their 1st Lee was at fault, why is he trying to grab that puck out of the air, left a 2 on 1. Their 2nd, Garnett has to save that, that was very poor, straight at the pad and in. The 3rd, another silly penalty from Billingsley to give them the 5 on 3. Their 4th, Lacho gives the puck away, why didn’t he get it deep? Then we are slow with the line change on D and they skate in and are clinical. The 5th, another daft penalty, albeit harsh but the fact that we let them get to the net so easily at the end sums it up. And why didn’t Neilson give Tetlow a few shifts when we were 3-1 up, keep it fresh. You could have predicted how the game was going to pan out before it was played, especially the late winner. When’s it our turn to do that to them?!! I feel like I’ve been punched in the stomach. This is so very true about all the goals and I do think that we deserved at least a point
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