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Post by wasteoftime on Dec 24, 2017 10:46:01 GMT
I disagree with people saying we didn’t play well, we were intense, physical and created enough chances that would have gone in a month ago. The entire team seems short of confidence currently, somethings got to give at some point. It’s also funny how people can go from adoring the team to hating them in such a short space of time, they’ve got the perfect opportunities now to redeem themselves, if we all get behind them they can do it. Anyway let’s enjoy Christmas now! How many shots did we have in the first period? if you think thats playing well.
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Post by jd on Dec 24, 2017 11:07:24 GMT
I disagree with people saying we didn’t play well, we were intense, physical and created enough chances that would have gone in a month ago. The entire team seems short of confidence currently, somethings got to give at some point. It’s also funny how people can go from adoring the team to hating them in such a short space of time, they’ve got the perfect opportunities now to redeem themselves, if we all get behind them they can do it. Anyway let’s enjoy Christmas now! How many shots did we have in the first period? if you think thats playing well. 9 shots We are an average team with average players. 3 or 4 need to go asap. The next 4 games could be painful
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Dec 24, 2017 11:18:16 GMT
Jeff brown- offers nothing other than a couple of hits and the odd scrap, waste of a uni deal! Bussieries plays that role and offers more offensively.
Mosey-sorry to say he hasn't looked the same player that left us, speedboat no driver, lindhagen is far more versatile if that's what he was signed for, points not worthy of a top 6 player.
Josh shalla- bar last night hasn't looked interested since the nhl and has barely put up a point.
Sauve- attitude stinks,losing count of how many stupid penalties he takes, amazing player when his attitude is right.
If it was me, mosey and shalla would both be gone and replaced with a kolnik and ling type player.its alright having a young squad but we really miss the experienced players and the reliability they bring.
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Post by endisforever91 on Dec 24, 2017 11:27:28 GMT
Well as a Storm fan I was expecting precisely nothing from this game even with the poor Panthers run of form. We have made a habit of following a good home win with a dreadful away performance, and I can’t believe that this is the same defensive unit that shipped four goals in the first ten minutes against Coventry last week.
It was a very similar game to last Saturday I thought, which was a surprise on the bigger ice. Could easily have been 5-4 if the goaltending had not been high quality.
For the second week running I thought Panthers had more of the play but Storm had the better chances. Panthers look like a team in need of a lucky break, they look like they’re going to swarm all over you and then they hesistate on the shot or on the final pass. Hopefully you’ll find the lucky break against the Steelers!
Couldn’t see whether the disallowed goal was offside, but it was one hell of a strike!
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 24, 2017 12:15:10 GMT
Well as a Storm fan I was expecting precisely nothing from this game even with the poor Panthers run of form. We have made a habit of following a good home win with a dreadful away performance, and I can’t believe that this is the same defensive unit that shipped four goals in the first ten minutes against Coventry last week. It was a very similar game to last Saturday I thought, which was a surprise on the bigger ice. Could easily have been 5-4 if the goaltending had not been high quality. For the second week running I thought Panthers had more of the play but Storm had the better chances. Panthers look like a team in need of a lucky break, they look like they’re going to swarm all over you and then they hesistate on the shot or on the final pass. Hopefully you’ll find the lucky break against the Steelers! Couldn’t see whether the disallowed goal was offside, but it was one hell of a strike! Not going to comment on the game as I’m still puzzled by it. The offside goal though was well offside, there was daylight between the blue line and the puck. Hell of a shot from the neutral zone though!
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Post by Sheetmaself on Dec 24, 2017 12:25:18 GMT
Agreed the disallowed goal was offside, didnt want it to be but as above you could see blue, white, puck.
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Post by PantherB on Dec 24, 2017 12:50:49 GMT
Jeff brown- offers nothing other than a couple of hits and the odd scrap, waste of a uni deal! Bussieries plays that role and offers more offensively. Mosey-sorry to say he hasn't looked the same player that left us, speedboat no driver, lindhagen is far more versatile if that's what he was signed for, points not worthy of a top 6 player. Josh shalla- bar last night hasn't looked interested since the nhl and has barely put up a point. Sauve- attitude stinks,losing count of how many stupid penalties he takes, amazing player when his attitude is right. If it was me, mosey and shalla would both be gone and replaced with a kolnik and ling type player.its alright having a young squad but we really miss the experienced players and the reliability they bring. Disagree with most, besides Shalla. Brown has more heart than most players we've had, throws some great hits, stands up for teammates and is good on the PK. Doesn't offer a great deal offensively but if he continues to be used as a hard hitting power forward then I'm happy. He does have Lachowicz and Betteridge either side of him though so that line will never be greatly offensive, more forecheck and shut down. Bussieres has a lot of potential, only 23/24 and I can see him and Phillips playing very well together given a bit more time and a boost in confidence. Somewhat agree regards Mosey but he's still a vital player. Would we want him against us? Never, ever. He's been back and forward between Forward and Defence, now injured.. He's not really had a settled position but he's had a positive impact. Sauve is just a very confident player, sometimes over confident but I'd rather have over confidence than someone who panics under pressure, Sauve doesn't seem to panic. When he gets it right, he's leaps and bounds above most defencemen in the league. He's got speed on his side too, can throw the body very well but is prone to throwing some cheap shots. Darnell has his and Derlago's numbers so neither of them will get away with anything when he's officiating. Perhaps Corey is putting too much pressure on him to be the key difference maker we know he can be. He's never been outstanding defensively, hence why he never got far in the NHL but the offensive side to his game can be superb, just perhaps needs to slow down a little.
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Post by pantherlee on Dec 24, 2017 13:17:36 GMT
How many shots did we have in the first period? if you think thats playing well. 9 shots We are an average team with average players. 3 or 4 need to go asap. The next 4 games could be painful Its easy saying that but who do you get instead. Its not that easy. Just look how long it took steelers to get a replacement for Ronnberg. Its only worth replacing people if you can find someone better. I'm quite happy for Shalla and Bussieres to be replaced but not by another Grimaldi, Hardy, Sarkanis etc. How does that make us any better.
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Dec 24, 2017 17:00:11 GMT
9 shots We are an average team with average players. 3 or 4 need to go asap. The next 4 games could be painful Its easy saying that but who do you get instead. Its not that easy. Just look how long it took steelers to get a replacement for Ronnberg. Its only worth replacing people if you can find someone better. I'm quite happy for Shalla and Bussieres to be replaced but not by another Grimaldi, Hardy, Sarkanis etc. How does that make us any better. Granted it takes time but it should be a coaches job to be looking what's available constantly, who knows when any player could have a season ending injury. Bussieries I hope stays, has big potential and plays a really good power forward gritty game but adds offensively. I don't see what mosey brings other than speed, can't pass, can't shoot, I wouldn't bat an eye if him or shalla left. People talk about him playing D etc but lindhagen is so much more versatile. He has the speed, plays better on D and can play centre and win face offs. We've got too many plays that are average joes in more than one position but not enough that specialise in one area.
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Post by iginla on Dec 24, 2017 17:58:07 GMT
How many shots did we have in the first period? if you think thats playing well. 9 shots We are an average team with average players. 3 or 4 need to go asap. The next 4 games could be painful I agree. We are an average team,mainly just average cv’s and that’s what we’re seeing now on the ice. The comment i was told before the season even started that “we have signed a 3rd place team” looks about spot on. Then again,i guess it’s an improvement on our usual 4th or 5th place !
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Dec 24, 2017 18:06:22 GMT
9 shots We are an average team with average players. 3 or 4 need to go asap. The next 4 games could be painful I agree. We are an average team,mainly just average cv’s and that’s what we’re seeing now on the ice. The comment i was told before the season even started that “we have signed a 3rd place team” looks about spot on. Then again,i guess it’s an improvement on our usual 4th or 5th place ! There is also alot of potential in the team, mokshantsev, phillips, bussieries, sauve, all have huge potential, they need to realise it but also Corey needs to get the best out of them. Phillips has outrageous hands and playmaking skills but he doesn't get put on a line with a out and out sniper to utilise them. We've got derlago and perlini with obvious goal scoring ability, phillips is never with them. Doenst make sense. Dreading the 2 games against Sheffield.
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Post by jd on Dec 24, 2017 19:19:08 GMT
I agree. We are an average team,mainly just average cv’s and that’s what we’re seeing now on the ice. The comment i was told before the season even started that “we have signed a 3rd place team” looks about spot on. Then again,i guess it’s an improvement on our usual 4th or 5th place ! There is also alot of potential in the team, mokshantsev, phillips, bussieries, sauve, all have huge potential, they need to realise it but also Corey needs to get the best out of them. Phillips has outrageous hands and playmaking skills but he doesn't get put on a line with a out and out sniper to utilise them. We've got derlago and perlini with obvious goal scoring ability, phillips is never with them. Doenst make sense. Dreading the 2 games against Sheffield. So do you think the issue is with the players or the coach?
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Dec 24, 2017 19:23:19 GMT
There is also alot of potential in the team, mokshantsev, phillips, bussieries, sauve, all have huge potential, they need to realise it but also Corey needs to get the best out of them. Phillips has outrageous hands and playmaking skills but he doesn't get put on a line with a out and out sniper to utilise them. We've got derlago and perlini with obvious goal scoring ability, phillips is never with them. Doenst make sense. Dreading the 2 games against Sheffield. So do you think the issue is with the players or the coach? To me , coach, he signs the players, he picks the lines, he is supposed to motivate them. If the players aren't naturally good enough, that's Corey fault for signing them, if they aren't up for the game, that also comes down to him, he'd have been gone last season if it was my decision
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Dec 24, 2017 19:34:06 GMT
Saove = Colby Cohen. Oozes class and confidence. Then makes a silly play and you realise thats why he's not playing at a higher level.
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Post by Mark on Dec 24, 2017 19:48:43 GMT
Depressing it’s all the same arguments year after year. This thread could have been copied and pasted from any of the previous four seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 20:30:05 GMT
Different year same issues and once again I'm hardly seeing much criticism towards the coach.! How bad does it have to get before the penny drops with the majority of these fans ?
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Post by dill1015 on Dec 24, 2017 21:28:45 GMT
Shalla needs to go. Hes not doing what he was brought in to do. Swap him with a guy that'l put points up and hopefully jar the others out of this slump.
Mosey is about on course ppg wise. Hes not a point per game player. He had a purple patch at the end of that season a couple of years ago.
Brown is fine, hes here to do a role and does it. Hed not given the line mates to do more.
Up front is clearly were the problwm is. We've simply stopped scoring.
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Post by spik on Dec 24, 2017 21:46:45 GMT
You’re so desperate to attend yet throw sly digs when the result/performance is bad. Good luck in getting your ban overturned, I can see the club folding very soon when this is the attitude your demonstrate. Thanks for your concern. Of course I would have rather been there. The boy was desperate to support the guys. Might as well look for the silver lining though as I'm still banned. I did notice your like to the extremely embarrassing tweet from Josh as well. I have to say David I think you are an unpleasant, even spliteful individual and I hope that your true self is happier and fuller than your online persona indicates. I notice that there's no match comment from someone who wants to glee in answering your own feelings on how the Panthers are playing. Your obliged to make your concerns here like anyone else Rob, keep it coming though certain people will more likely, look out for and attack you, people who think YOUR attacking theteam/club. Nice to see you got AWAY to a game in MK and made your views on that match. My sister went to this game and said it was interesting as far as it was close but that was about it. She's an ex ST as I am.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Dec 24, 2017 23:25:56 GMT
The coach is 100% our issue. He slowly brings out the worst in every player he signs, it just takes varying lengths of time - from Lacho & Lee who took a few years to Shalla & Sauve who’ve taken barely 4 months.
The only players that showed their best under Corey was Ling, Graham & Benedict - easily argued it was more about being a settled line rather than CN’s influence as all 3 played for us again and never looked the same.
Neilson’s attitude of the Manchester performance (and a 6th straight loss) being ‘what the fans wanted to see’ sums up why he’ll never get us out of this repetitive, annual slump.
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Post by dill1015 on Dec 25, 2017 0:35:39 GMT
The coach is 100% our issue. He slowly brings out the worst in every player he signs, it just takes varying lengths of time - from Lacho & Lee who took a few years to Shalla & Sauve who’ve taken barely 4 months. The only players that showed their best under Corey was Ling, Graham & Benedict - easily argued it was more about being a settled line rather than CN’s influence as all 3 played for us again and never looked the same. Neilson’s attitude of the Manchester performance (and a 6th straight loss) being ‘what the fans wanted to see’ sums up why he’ll never get us out of this repetitive, annual slump. Execpt lee has been great relative to where he started and been good this year. Mosey, Francis, Lepine, Cook and Ryan all players who have come good under corey when they were writen off by fans. Hes not perfect but hes not a curse on all pkayers some dand make out. But he needs to earn his money and get these guys out of thier slump and rught quick.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Dec 25, 2017 10:21:00 GMT
The coach is 100% our issue. He slowly brings out the worst in every player he signs, it just takes varying lengths of time - from Lacho & Lee who took a few years to Shalla & Sauve who’ve taken barely 4 months. The only players that showed their best under Corey was Ling, Graham & Benedict - easily argued it was more about being a settled line rather than CN’s influence as all 3 played for us again and never looked the same. Neilson’s attitude of the Manchester performance (and a 6th straight loss) being ‘what the fans wanted to see’ sums up why he’ll never get us out of this repetitive, annual slump. Execpt lee has been great relative to where he started and been good this year. Mosey, Francis, Lepine, Cook and Ryan all players who have come good under corey when they were writen off by fans. Hes not perfect but hes not a curse on all pkayers some dand make out. But he needs to earn his money and get these guys out of thier slump and rught quick. Lee isn’t half the player he was a few years ago - concussions haven’t helped, although it doesn’t make sense how well he plays for GB (same with a Lacho)! Mosey has been nowhere near the player he left. Francis would notoriously start with a bang then tail off each season. Cook certainly didn’t improve under Corey although I thought he was fairly consistent all year - he came on leaps & bounds in Braehead under Bruce. Ryan’s game increased ten-fold when Bellamy arrived - credit Neilson maybe. Lepine, yeah I’ll give you that. He got better during his time here. I wouldn’t say CN is a ‘curse’ but his systems are a detriment that suit very few players. Worth noting that much-maligned Matt Carter is 10+10 in 23 games & Nikiforuk is 9+26 in 27 games for Epinal in France currently - Niki already surpassing his points total all last season. Epinal are also captained by Tyler Mosienko with only 1+11 in 19 games (we’d have all taken Mosienko over Niki and Carter)!.
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Post by texpef on Dec 25, 2017 11:23:36 GMT
Shalla needs to go. Hes not doing what he was brought in to do. Swap him with a guy that'l put points up and hopefully jar the others out of this slump. Mosey is about on course ppg wise. Hes not a point per game player. He had a purple patch at the end of that season a couple of years ago. Brown is fine, hes here to do a role and does it. Hed not given the line mates to do more. Up front is clearly were the problwm is. We've simply stopped scoring. Up front is where the issue has been all domestic season, we have scraped by with the brits and import defence snatching the winning goals and finally the lack of goals from the import forwards (pretty much all of them but in particular shalla and mosey) has come home to roost and these narrow wins we squeaked by are now losses... As a panthers fan i have come to not count games in hand but boy have they been frittered away more than most this season... Fans saying who would we get NOW well if CN was a coach worth his salt he would have seen the writing on the wall and replaced shalla a month ago...
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