Optic
Corey Neilson
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Post by Optic on Aug 19, 2017 22:21:47 GMT
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Post by FullMetalDagger on Aug 19, 2017 22:29:36 GMT
So we're gonna be looking for a new import NM?
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Shaggy
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 19, 2017 22:32:49 GMT
Good job we have Sam Gospel! Think he might be seeing more ice time this season than originally anticipated...
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Yotes
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Post by Yotes on Aug 19, 2017 22:32:55 GMT
I've just altered the title slightly. Sad if true and as FMD says, if true, that should be that for us.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 22:34:16 GMT
I think Corey needs to move on from this and look for a replacement pronto
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Post by bruinspanthers on Aug 19, 2017 22:47:22 GMT
So it's Garnett and Gospel for season then Happy with that
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Post by kievthegreat on Aug 19, 2017 22:49:23 GMT
Mika is still available?
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Post by PantherB on Aug 19, 2017 22:50:09 GMT
£17,000 fine heading his way and a possible custodial (House arrest type thing, not allowed to leave Ukraine) sentence of up to 5 years, and that's just the Ukrainian Law, not IIHF.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Aug 19, 2017 22:55:13 GMT
If it's true then we don't want him here. What a fool.
Explains what his delay is though!
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EMB
Randall Weber
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Post by EMB on Aug 19, 2017 23:32:22 GMT
Do you think that Panthers knew nothing about this pending matter? If this guy had this hanging over him why would he tout himself as a free agent . We always manage to pick a bad one, over the last few years we've had a few or are they just cheaper.
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shinobi
Randall Weber
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Post by shinobi on Aug 19, 2017 23:34:07 GMT
Daft lad. Doesn't surprise me though when you look into the oft murky world of any sport in that part of the world.
As others have said, I hope Panthers move one from the player, despite it being innocent until proven guilty, unless his confession is a genuine & sincere "cough."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2017 23:38:32 GMT
Couldn't have been very good at match fixing, he's the netminder and the game was 2-1 after a PS
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Post by PantherB on Aug 19, 2017 23:58:00 GMT
Do you think that Panthers knew nothing about this pending matter? If this guy had this hanging over him why would he tout himself as a free agent . We always manage to pick a bad one, over the last few years we've had a few or are they just cheaper. I think they know about it but are awaiting the hearing Zakh has with the Ukrainian Hockey Fed. on Monday. If he gets away with a slap on the wrist I'd expect him to still be coming here, but I doubt he'll get a slap on the wrist. Plus i'd assume the IIHF will be investigating so an indefinite suspension may be issued.
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Shaggy
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 20, 2017 0:01:39 GMT
I think they know about it but are awaiting the hearing Zakh has with the Ukrainian Hockey Fed. on Monday. That would make sense... after all, innocent until proven guilty and all that. If he is judged as being guilty, then I don't expect we'll ever see him.
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deke
Robert Lachowicz
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Post by deke on Aug 20, 2017 7:26:25 GMT
Cut him loose we don't need that kind of player if he has done what he is being accused of. Gospel is more than capable of being our back up. Explains why it's taken so long
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Ghost
Matt Myers
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Post by Ghost on Aug 20, 2017 8:51:20 GMT
I think they know about it but are awaiting the hearing Zakh has with the Ukrainian Hockey Fed. on Monday. That would make sense... after all, innocent until proven guilty and all that. If he is judged as being guilty, then I don't expect we'll ever see him. With this kind of thing you fear there's no smoke without fire but.. as you say innocent until proven guilty.
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Pies
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Post by Pies on Aug 20, 2017 9:06:16 GMT
If he had held his hands up, said he's made a mistake and takes his punishment, I would still have him here. He will want to rebuild his career and maybe being out of that environment will help. There's no big money for hockey results in this country so it has such a low risk. Also, maybe spending time with a coach like corey, who has his faults but a genuine reputation for being a fantastic mentor to young players, will help him put the incident behind him!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 9:11:03 GMT
Without knowing many facts , taking into account he's what 21 ? He's,probably been used as a pawn here and bullied into it a little and there's a ringleader behind all this here , I doubt we 'll never really know what happened as the details of these things are never published
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Post by dill1015 on Aug 20, 2017 10:21:49 GMT
Oh dear. Reserve judgement till the verdict comes out. But doesnt look great at this point. Hope Coreys been working on a plan b while all this had been going on. Just incase.
Silver lining is at least people can get off the clubs back about this one. Or have i just jinxed that?...
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nate24
Greg Hadden
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Post by nate24 on Aug 20, 2017 10:40:58 GMT
He was plan B wasn't he? At least we are not trying to replace a starting netminder.
I reserve judgment as to whether they should of signed him as it depends on the timeline of him being investigated. I don't think even the Panthers would of signed him if they new it was going to happen.
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Post by wgray on Aug 20, 2017 11:29:58 GMT
Innocent until proven guilty
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shinobi
Randall Weber
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Post by shinobi on Aug 20, 2017 11:31:45 GMT
Without knowing many facts , taking into account he's what 21 ? He's,probably been used as a pawn here and bullied into it a little and there's a ringleader behind all this here , I doubt we 'll never really know what happened as the details of these things are never published Having read about the antics of people who helped the likes of Bure, Mogilny etc escape the Iron Curtain in the late 1980s, you're probably not too far from the truth mate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 12:23:23 GMT
Without knowing many facts , taking into account he's what 21 ? He's,probably been used as a pawn here and bullied into it a little and there's a ringleader behind all this here , I doubt we 'll never really know what happened as the details of these things are never published Having read about the antics of people who helped the likes of Bure, Mogilny etc escape the Iron Curtain in the late 1980s, you're probably not too far from the truth mate. Have you watched Red Army shin ?
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Shaggy
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 20, 2017 12:26:46 GMT
Having read about the antics of people who helped the likes of Bure, Mogilny etc escape the Iron Curtain in the late 1980s, you're probably not too far from the truth mate. Have you watched Red Army shin ? That didn't show the Russian treatment of players in a very good light at all, did it? Instead of their names on the back of the jerseys, they may has well just have had "Piece Of Meat 1" and "Piece Of Meat 2" etc...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 12:49:17 GMT
Have you watched Red Army shin ? That didn't show the Russian treatment of players in a very good light at all, did it? Instead of their names on the back of the jerseys, they may has well just have had "Piece Of Meat 1" and "Piece Of Meat 2" etc... That film I thought was a real eye opener, as a wings fan as in the late 80s early 90s we acquired several from Russia yes Shaggy it wasn't very pleasant
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