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Post by kievthegreat on Aug 7, 2017 9:02:06 GMT
I currently see going left to right: Betteridge Mosey Lachowicz ? Spang ? Billingsley ? (but in Derlago's seat) Lee ? (but in Phillips Seat)
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Post by kievthegreat on Aug 7, 2017 9:03:27 GMT
Club have decided to just spell it out.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Aug 7, 2017 9:10:04 GMT
Club have decided to just spell it out. And just to confirm that our Chairman, Neil Black, promised his fans that the full roster would be at the opening day of camp on August 7th. I thought this summer had gone so well for Panthers and there were serious changes in attitude being made. As we approach the season I think we might just be seeing that a leopard can't change its spots!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 9:15:57 GMT
There really is no excuse as apart from Derlago the rest were signed/announced in June!
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Post by kievthegreat on Aug 7, 2017 9:20:33 GMT
TBF, If they arrive today or tomorrow I'm not too concerned, but as it's stands we're 6 imports short including half of our top 6 forwards! Glad I've not bought any tickets for Cardiff on Saturday.
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Post by nytram89 on Aug 7, 2017 9:25:09 GMT
No excuse for a few of them not being here. Plenty of time for visa process. I believe zacharchenko was signed middle of may so hes had nearly 3 months to get sorted. 😒
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 9:26:05 GMT
TBF, If they arrive today or tomorrow I'm not too concerned, but as it's stands we're 6 imports short including half of our top 6 forwards! Glad I've not bought any tickets for Cardiff on Saturday. Me too any fans going on Saturday have been duped
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Post by wgray on Aug 7, 2017 9:47:26 GMT
From Panthers' website:
Phillips arriving midweek, will be in the squad for Saturday.
Derlago waiting for his passport then he can make his way to Nottingham.
Bussieres, Mokshantsev and Zakharchenko had visa issues so they are still waiting on them.
Derlago's situation is understandable but the situation with the last three is poor, Corey signed them with plenty of time so themselves and the management could sort issues out in good time. Corey has done well with recruitment and signed early, but the management has failed the club again.
As much as we despise Sheffield they do everything possible to give themselves the advantage to win. All of their players at their training camp today. I wish our management would change their mindset and have the same desire to win.
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Post by PantherB on Aug 7, 2017 9:53:10 GMT
So by Saturday we should be just Bussieres, Mokshanstev and Zakharchenko down (as well as unsigned import)
Getting Phillips and Derlago in before the end of the week will be key.
I had another look at the Russian Visa stuff too and although it looks a monumental pain in the ass if you're not from St. Petersburg, Mokshantsev has had ample time to get it done.
I think the Russians require applications to be submitted in person, then upon that being cleared they require you to go back to the passport office for biometrics, and then if that all goes to plan, they'll then require you to return once again to the passport office to collect the paperwork. Only St. Petersburg offers expedited delivery (within 3 days) and Mokshantsev's closest passport office is Moscow, 10 hours drive or over a days travel on public transport. Moscow is Moscow too, busier than London etc.. so as big a ball ache as it is for him to sort out, he's had plenty of time to do it so unless Moscow have screwed it up or there's been a family emergency, there's no excuse. Looking forward to seeing him play but it's a shame he's going to be late.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Aug 7, 2017 10:11:20 GMT
So by Saturday we should be just Bussieres, Mokshanstev and Zakharchenko down (as well as unsigned import) Getting Phillips and Derlago in before the end of the week will be key. I had another look at the Russian Visa stuff too and although it looks a monumental pain in the ass if you're not from St. Petersburg, Mokshantsev has had ample time to get it done. I think the Russians require applications to be submitted in person, then upon that being cleared they require you to go back to the passport office for biometrics, and then if that all goes to plan, they'll then require you to return once again to the passport office to collect the paperwork. Only St. Petersburg offers expedited delivery (within 3 days) and Mokshantsev's closest passport office is Moscow, 10 hours drive or over a days travel on public transport. Moscow is Moscow too, busier than London etc.. so as big a ball ache as it is for him to sort out, he's had plenty of time to do it so unless Moscow have screwed it up or there's been a family emergency, there's no excuse. Looking forward to seeing him play but it's a shame he's going to be late. I bet Edinburgh don't struggle getting all their Russians over in time!
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Post by PantherB on Aug 7, 2017 10:14:09 GMT
Bussieres, Mokshantsev and Zakharchenko had visa issues so they are still waiting on them. Guessing either Panthers updated the article or you didn't post the whole bit on those 3? "Bussieres, Alexander Mokshantsev and Eduard Zakharchenko had some minor issues with their visa applications but they have now been resolved and should be joining their new teammates soon."
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Post by PantherB on Aug 7, 2017 10:15:24 GMT
So by Saturday we should be just Bussieres, Mokshanstev and Zakharchenko down (as well as unsigned import) Getting Phillips and Derlago in before the end of the week will be key. I had another look at the Russian Visa stuff too and although it looks a monumental pain in the ass if you're not from St. Petersburg, Mokshantsev has had ample time to get it done. I think the Russians require applications to be submitted in person, then upon that being cleared they require you to go back to the passport office for biometrics, and then if that all goes to plan, they'll then require you to return once again to the passport office to collect the paperwork. Only St. Petersburg offers expedited delivery (within 3 days) and Mokshantsev's closest passport office is Moscow, 10 hours drive or over a days travel on public transport. Moscow is Moscow too, busier than London etc.. so as big a ball ache as it is for him to sort out, he's had plenty of time to do it so unless Moscow have screwed it up or there's been a family emergency, there's no excuse. Looking forward to seeing him play but it's a shame he's going to be late. I bet Edinburgh don't struggle getting all their Russians over in time! We'll see! Certainly doesn't look an easy process but hey, they might have everything run smoothly and get guys here quicker. No day is the same when dealing with Visa's and Immigration!
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Post by PantherG on Aug 7, 2017 10:29:39 GMT
I knew we would never have the squad all in on time for first match, hence why I wasn't buying tickets to see half a team. I am not too worried as the season is a month away, but I am starting to worry that we will be down a D man for our first competitive match on the 9th September, unless the guy that Corey signs has an EU passport...
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Post by PantherTom on Aug 7, 2017 10:35:16 GMT
I knew we would never have the squad all in on time for first match, hence why I wasn't buying tickets to see half a team. I am not too worried as the season is a month away, but I am starting to worry that we will be down a D man for our first competitive match on the 9th September, unless the guy that Corey signs has an EU passport... Our first competitive game is on the 24th August, so we have 3 weeks, to get the last D man signed, sealed and delivered.
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Post by Carnell on Aug 7, 2017 10:48:02 GMT
I currently see going left to right: Betteridge Mosey Lachowicz ? Spang ? Billingsley ? (but in Derlago's seat) Lee ? (but in Phillips Seat) The lad next to Lacho is Corey's kid & the lad next to Billingsley is Clarkes lad I believe
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Aug 7, 2017 11:10:17 GMT
who's to blame for the issues with the Russians' visas ? You can hardly say it's the club's fault, and given the amount of red tape the players need to go through it would be wrong to blame the players.
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Post by pantherdman on Aug 7, 2017 11:48:56 GMT
The fans are calling us out. Launch operation lepine smokescreen.
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Post by wgray on Aug 7, 2017 11:51:01 GMT
who's to blame for the issues with the Russians' visas ? You can hardly say it's the club's fault, and given the amount of red tape the players need to go through it would be wrong to blame the players. the management should have been on top of it though, all three were signed with plenty of time to iron out any issues
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Post by Mark on Aug 7, 2017 12:17:47 GMT
Neil Black promised a full squad for the start of competitive hockey. Looking like another fail to me. The club need to build bridges with the fanbase concerning trust and belief instead of pointless soundbites.
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Post by Rob Scott on Aug 7, 2017 12:19:57 GMT
Neil Black promised a full squad for the start of competitive hockey. Looking like another fail to me. The club need to build bridges with the fanbase concerning trust and belief instead of pointless soundbites. Yep, embracing the supporters trust and working with them would be a great place for them to start.
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Post by brodeurfan1993 on Aug 7, 2017 12:34:53 GMT
can you all calm down a bit. So many unfounded assumptions.
Visas can be slow for reasons totally out of control of the people applying for them.You have no knowledge of what has slowed down these particular applications. Stop slating the club as though you know it is NB/GM's fault.
North American visa is surprising but not really shocked about the Russian ones.
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Post by panthersdave on Aug 7, 2017 12:55:57 GMT
can you all calm down a bit. So many unfounded assumptions. Visas can be slow for reasons totally out of control of the people applying for them.You have no knowledge of what has slowed down these particular applications. Stop slating the club as though you know it is NB/GM's fault. North American visa is surprising but not really shocked about the Russian ones. Quite right. Yes, NB made a statement but we don't know why players aren't here and the understanding is that more are arriving imminently. I also feel envious that the Steelers have their whole team here but while the Panthers are training and getting up to speed, the Steelers are suffering 'death by Powerpoint' courtesy of Smith and Thompson. Anybody know if Cardiff have their whole roster here yet? I haven't seen anything to suggest they are.
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Post by Shorty on Aug 7, 2017 12:56:42 GMT
I know that Black said that we would have a full squad here by today, but did he actually say "I promise"?
I'm not looking for excuses, but just curious.
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Post by Caesar on Aug 7, 2017 12:57:01 GMT
You know if i was going on holiday for a few weeks and needed a visa, you can bet your bottom dollar I'd have sorted it in plenty of time. I know a working visa is different but im pretty sure they are valid for at least a year, so why not apply for it as soon as the player in question has signed? This is one that probably lands at the feet of the players to ultimately sort out, but why does it seem to happen every single year? Smacks of unprofessionalism.
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Post by PantherB on Aug 7, 2017 13:13:58 GMT
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