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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 20:23:51 GMT
I really, really wish I had not renewed my season ticket earlier in the week.... Me too. Could be an email heading to the Panthers asking for my money back ! And that's why you should never get st applications out this soon just to save a few quid jeez . This league is about as unstable as a organisation gets bad news will always be just around the corner
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Post by iginla on Apr 27, 2017 20:28:09 GMT
Why didnt we just have a whip round at the play offs and pay the scots diesel for them. That's the utterly stupid thing. The three Scots were frightened about losing a couple of home games against their Scottish rivals. But with their terrible crowds what the heck are they moaning about. The difference between what say Dundee get against Caps versus what they would get against Sheffield would be virtually sod all. If they are that desperate for an extra few hundred quid,then the big boys probably should have paid them off rather than have this load of crap the league have come up with !
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Post by Rob Scott on Apr 27, 2017 20:29:57 GMT
After making himself look a right tit and going back on what he publicly said NB had better not sign too many Carters for next season or we'll be lucky to make our usual mid table finish.
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Post by dp on Apr 27, 2017 20:38:01 GMT
Britain is tiny. The only reason not to have a 12 team 1 league is greed. The league don't give a poo poo about the fans. This is a massive point. I remember reading a NA Panthers player saying how crazy it was in the UK how close all the teams were. He was saying that playing Belfast is considered a massive road trip over here, but in NA terms it's so close it'd be considered a local derby. I've not checked the stats, but I find it hard to believe that Caps and Dundee don't get more fans in for a Sunday night game against the Panthers who are on the 3rd night of a Scottish triple header than they do against each other or Fife.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 20:39:03 GMT
A real possibility panthers could finish 7th/8th next year
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Post by iginla on Apr 27, 2017 20:44:24 GMT
You know what we should do with any Scottish double/triple headers next season........BOYCOTT THEM !
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Post by Yotes on Apr 27, 2017 20:47:17 GMT
'Welcome all to the board meeting for a chat on the domestic format.Any ideas?' ************************************ ' Hi I'm a Arena team boss, we'd like to play other Arena teams and get loads a money in' 'Hi, Im with the Scots and want us to play each other and get plenty of local bashing going on and get loads o mony in too'. 'Hi, I'm with the other brigade of clubs, want less games versus Arena teams and all that and win more games perhaps giving our faithful reason to come through the doors as we'd probably get a PO spot too.' **************************** 'Well than that's it chaps, all sorted everyone happy, lets get that money in from those mugs...them there hockey purists eh??/...ha ha Probably not far off. I know people seem to think this is the tail wagging the dog, but there's no way that the arena bosses aren't just as keen to see the other big boys roll up at their venues every 5 minutes (hence the "exciting format" guff from HQ).
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Post by wgray on Apr 27, 2017 20:49:55 GMT
Coventry and Breahead have benefited the most from this structure, if either of them can put a team together that is of higher quality than they had last season I think they will be battling it out for the league title
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Post by Rob Scott on Apr 27, 2017 20:50:07 GMT
All of these decisions are purely about maximising the amount of cash the owners can take off us muppets. Make no mistake about that.
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Post by kezypanther on Apr 27, 2017 20:53:24 GMT
I don't like it, and I can't think of anyone that will.
Trying to make this a "fair" league isn't going to work. Arena teams are now in the same conference which means they are going to sign higher quality players just to compete to get the better of their own conference (from a Panthers perspective I hope so too). Next season if Panthers sign the squad they need to compete in our own conference we should walk over the other conferences. We are going to have to be winning more games against the arena teams to win the league so a seriously improved squad would be a must. If any other team wins the league over the arena teams it would just prove how awful the system is.
Also watching Steelers 10 times a season is beyond a joke.
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Post by iginla on Apr 27, 2017 20:58:27 GMT
Assuming Mr Black is unhappy with the new 3x4 format......unless he was lying at the Q+A.
If he is unhappy,I know what I would do if I was him. Throw some serious money at Panthers squad this year and put a team on the ice that would blow every other team away and teach them a lesson !
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Post by Rob Scott on Apr 27, 2017 21:01:22 GMT
Assuming Mr Black is unhappy with the new 3x4 format......unless he was lying at the Q+A. If he is unhappy,I know what I would do if I was him. Throw some serious money at Panthers squad this year and put a team on the ice that would blow every other team away and teach them a lesson ! Good one....
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Post by pingchowchi on Apr 27, 2017 21:04:08 GMT
Also watching Steelers 10 times a season is beyond a joke. that is the least amount of times we will play them, it could be 14 times depending on how we progress in the cup and playoffs.......
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Post by dp on Apr 27, 2017 21:05:22 GMT
Another thing to bear in mind....assuming the Scottish clubs would travel there and back in a day whoever they're playing away (which I think they nearly always do)...
They have to hire a coach regardless of which team they're playing - so that cost doesn't change regardless of whether FIfe are playing Braehead or Panthers.
And then if FIfe play Steelers rather than Braehead, it's 250 miles each way rather than 70 - so an extra 360 miles or so. Assuming about 40p a mile for coach fuel, that's only another £150 or so. Which is covered by, what, 8 or 9 tickets sold at their next home game??
Just crazy.
I really hope we can rely on all arena team fans to boycott the Scottish road trips in protest.
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Post by Shorty on Apr 27, 2017 21:06:55 GMT
We have no chance as our budget will be spent on a dozen netminders for the Sheffield games.
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Post by iginla on Apr 27, 2017 21:13:58 GMT
Another thing to bear in mind....assuming the Scottish clubs would travel there and back in a day whoever they're playing away (which I think they nearly always do)... They have to hire a coach regardless of which team they're playing - so that cost doesn't change regardless of whether FIfe are playing Braehead or Panthers. And then if FIfe play Steelers rather than Braehead, it's 250 miles each way rather than 70 - so an extra 360 miles or so. Assuming about 40p a mile for coach fuel, that's only another £150 or so. Which is covered by, what, 8 or 9 tickets sold at their next home game?? Just crazy. I really hope we can rely on all arena team fans to boycott the Scottish road trips in protest. Exactly Dp. This whole format change has come about over basically "peanuts money" in the grand scheme of things. To put it in perspective,probably less money overall to the three Scots teams combined than Panthers shirt off the back raffle raises in a season !
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Post by cooperphil156 on Apr 27, 2017 21:13:59 GMT
Assuming Mr Black is unhappy with the new 3x4 format......unless he was lying at the Q+A. If he is unhappy,I know what I would do if I was him. Throw some serious money at Panthers squad this year and put a team on the ice that would blow every other team away and teach them a lesson ! Good one.... He is so unhappy he is going to give a discount to all Panthers v Steelers matches
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Post by pingchowchi on Apr 27, 2017 21:16:15 GMT
Assuming Mr Black is unhappy with the new 3x4 format......unless he was lying at the Q+A. If he is unhappy,I know what I would do if I was him. Throw some serious money at Panthers squad this year and put a team on the ice that would blow every other team away and teach them a lesson ! Or fill the clan team with tough guys next season
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Post by Yotes on Apr 27, 2017 21:22:09 GMT
Also watching Steelers 10 times a season is beyond a joke. that is the least amount of times we will play them, it could be 14 times depending on how we progress in the cup and playoffs....... Like the season just gone then Black/Moran will love this setup.
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Post by ted logan on Apr 27, 2017 21:25:38 GMT
Since the farce of last season, I've seriously thought about not renewing my ST for the first time in years.
Logan Jnr and my sis talked me round though and as of 4pm today I was prepared to give it one more season.
Then I read this crock of absolute horse poo poo and I'm even more inclined to keep my cash in my pocket. What an absolute joke the sport in this country is. Unbelievable.
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Post by wgray on Apr 27, 2017 21:27:12 GMT
Another thing to bear in mind....assuming the Scottish clubs would travel there and back in a day whoever they're playing away (which I think they nearly always do)... They have to hire a coach regardless of which team they're playing - so that cost doesn't change regardless of whether FIfe are playing Braehead or Panthers. And then if FIfe play Steelers rather than Braehead, it's 250 miles each way rather than 70 - so an extra 360 miles or so. Assuming about 40p a mile for coach fuel, that's only another £150 or so. Which is covered by, what, 8 or 9 tickets sold at their next home game?? Just crazy. I really hope we can rely on all arena team fans to boycott the Scottish road trips in protest. Exactly Dp. This whole format change has come about over basically "peanuts money" in the grand scheme of things. To put it in perspective,probably less money overall to the three Scots teams combined than Panthers shirt off the back raffle raises in a season ! I think they were actually more concerned about the potential of Belfast being in their group and having to fly over their 2 more times than they will now, flying a whole team somewhere as opposed to driving a coach is a hell of a lot more expensive so I can see their logic in not wanting to do it.
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Post by iginla on Apr 27, 2017 21:52:15 GMT
Exactly Dp. This whole format change has come about over basically "peanuts money" in the grand scheme of things. To put it in perspective,probably less money overall to the three Scots teams combined than Panthers shirt off the back raffle raises in a season ! I think they were actually more concerned about the potential of Belfast being in their group and having to fly over their 2 more times than they will now, flying a whole team somewhere as opposed to driving a coach is a hell of a lot more expensive so I can see their logic in not wanting to do it. There is a boat from Stanraer to Belfast,I'm sure a coach would fit on there ok. It's been done many times before. The only money we are talking about here is just the difference in crowds between them playing a Scots team or an English team,it's negligible. If we had gone 2x6 confs with Belfast in with the Scots it would have been 3 home/away games for them,so they were looking at only ONE extra trip to Belfast. Jeez if they can't manage that then they shouldn't be in the EIHL !
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Post by Doom on Apr 27, 2017 21:59:37 GMT
To put this into perspective:
Last season Braehead managed 47 points from 32 games in their conference, that's an average of 1.47 points/game.....very impressive!
In cross conference games they managed 10 points from 20 games....That's an average of 0.5 points/game.
If Braehead get a coach that's anything like, with their budget the league will be over by Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 22:09:20 GMT
Personally I have no issue with this win regards to the league format, at the end of the day 12 is better than 9 and I'm glad NB showed some flexibility on his comments from the Q & A at the playoffs (in the big picture this is better).
Would've preferred us to have Coventry in our CC group over Sheffield though.
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Post by iginla on Apr 27, 2017 22:24:54 GMT
To put this into perspective: Last season Braehead managed 47 points from 32 games in their conference, that's an average of 1.47 points/game.....very impressive! In cross conference games they managed 10 points from 20 games....That's an average of 0.5 points/game. If Braehead get a coach that's anything like, with their budget the league will be over by Christmas. Regards Doom Not sure it will actually Doom. Assuming they got the same average points against Manchester,Guildford and Milton Keynes as they got against the Scots conference last season,they would get the following points next season. 36 X 1.47 20 X 0.5 Total of only 63 points It all depends on the new coach,as they would need more points than that to win it.
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