Mozzy
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Post by Mozzy on Apr 20, 2017 1:07:03 GMT
His double toe save in the playoff game in Sheffield was what that comeback was built one Err.......not really. There was a much bigger incident in the game than that. Two actually. True, but if Moose doesn't make that save, the score goes to 1-1 and the arena is deflated and we don't comeback, even with Green in goal.
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Pies
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Post by Pies on Apr 20, 2017 7:42:27 GMT
The news we all expected miika is gone article
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shinobi
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Post by shinobi on Apr 20, 2017 9:35:13 GMT
The news we all expected miika is gone articleDislike.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 9:51:35 GMT
The news we all expected miika is gone articleDislike. That's wack
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Post by meadow on Apr 20, 2017 10:02:48 GMT
The news we all expected miika is gone articleStill don't really get this, especially as the article says Corey said (correctly imho) that he was the best goalie in the league. Only makes sense if Corey has a stud goalie lined up already, or the shadow of NB has told him he won't have any cash for an import backup this year.
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Post by dill1015 on Apr 20, 2017 10:07:21 GMT
The news we all expected miika is gone articleStill don't really get this, especially as the article says Corey said (correctly imho) that he was the best goalie in the league. Only makes sense if Corey has a stud goalie lined up already, or the shadow of NB has told him he won't have any cash for an import backup this year. As good as Miika is he cant complete a full sesson. You cant build a championship team on players who you know will get injured. And theres no import that cant be replaced.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 10:11:36 GMT
No matter what affection you have for these players you don't win league championships with a bunch of crocks!! Black has told CN he won't entertain these types anymore.. Let's book this is jusy the start of him doing what he says !
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Post by texpef on Apr 20, 2017 10:14:34 GMT
tbh from what ive seen Shane Owen was the best goalie but hes left the league now.. Miika was very good when he was fit and on his game, sadly this wasn't enough times over the past two years pretty much like the other sicknotes we have had.
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Post by nytram89 on Apr 20, 2017 10:33:11 GMT
Still bugs me a little that the club dont announce these sort of things on the OS though. At least thank him for his services and wish him well. 😔 Good goalie i wish him well.
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Post by Gilly on Apr 20, 2017 10:40:50 GMT
i dont say this very often (if at all!) but i wish we took a leaf out of sheffields book. sheffieldsteelers.co.uk/steelers-contract-confirmation-the-core-for-2017-18/soon after the season has ended and all the exit meetings taken place, we should announce those who are currently on multi year deals, and those who will not be returning and wish them all well. granted there will always be some who may not be mentioned as their situation is up in the air, but at least let us know about the ones which are confirmed (before they drop out of their 2 year contract in August that is!)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 10:58:53 GMT
It's called keeping the fans in the loop mate. Something the panthers org don't understand/believe in! The more I think about it the more I'm convinced the fans are a inconvenience and only called upto when it's auction time !
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meadow
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Post by meadow on Apr 20, 2017 11:09:50 GMT
This has been done to death in other threads, but most of what you are arguing for i.e. - a top level goalie who will come in and play every game at a competitive level in the Ernhardt without issue is pure fantasyland with the level the league is currently at, you just need to look around league to see this:
- Shuff; Mustokovs visibly tired towards the end of the season after playing 95% of the league + CHL games, nearly cost them a place in the finals weekend because of this - Belfast had Whistle and Murph splitting time till Whistle got injured again - Cardiff had Murdy step in for 10 games - Braehead; Zajakowski missed time with injury but they have a Brit who can step in and play and even started over Z for some games
As far as I'm aware both Wiikman and Stewart have been on record saying that the current system of the import starter playing 99% of the games is not feasible and doesn't happen in any other pro league. As for Owen, I've only included title contending teams above because i don't think anyone would dispute that the workload / intensity is completely different from one conference to another.
My only 'affection' for the departing players is that the ones we get to replace them might not be of the same quality / pedigree, but will fit in with NB's (if the rumours are to be believed) ambiguous criteria of youth & fitness. That says to me once again its all about bottom line and NB wants to go down the import + Green /u23 route rather than even the Cardiff model of starter + EPL level starter as backup (lets face it, given the state of whatever the EPL will become, its the best time possible to bring up some of the better UK EPL goalies to EIHL level)
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Post by Yotes on Apr 20, 2017 11:47:00 GMT
They have now put this out on Twitter at least:
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Post by dexter on Apr 20, 2017 12:17:13 GMT
Tin pot organisation. Why was this not on the official website? Poor PR as per normal.
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Post by dexter on Apr 20, 2017 12:19:25 GMT
i dont say this very often (if at all!) but i wish we took a leaf out of sheffields book. sheffieldsteelers.co.uk/steelers-contract-confirmation-the-core-for-2017-18/soon after the season has ended and all the exit meetings taken place, we should announce those who are currently on multi year deals, and those who will not be returning and wish them all well. granted there will always be some who may not be mentioned as their situation is up in the air, but at least let us know about the ones which are confirmed (before they drop out of their 2 year contract in August that is!) This. It would be good to have this info before deciding whether to commit to renewing my season ticket. Oh wait..........
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Post by pantherlee on Apr 20, 2017 12:29:46 GMT
Though i'm surprised he's been pushed rather than jumped i can live with this decision providing we don't re-sign any other players from last year that weren't already on two year deals as they all performed way below Miika's standard. If Miika has been cut but we ended up keeping any of Lawrence, Carter or MacMillan i'd be very p***** off
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Post by jdizpt8 on Apr 20, 2017 12:30:28 GMT
we don't thank players because Gary is god and nothing is better than him! take Kwall for instance, 5 years with us, endless trophies and took us to our first league title for a billion years, he got no thanks or well wishes because as ever GM doesn't see it necessary to do so. The man has no gratitude for what the players do for the club, he just sits and counts his pennies (probably incorrectly if his spelling is anything to go by)!! i can see why Miika was let go, hes had injuries that have scuppered our season but part of that i down to the club not reacting quickly enough to get cover in. Pacl was never going to be a world beater, if anything we need to be looking at top end brits to come in and take an import slot and then have two quality goalies fighting for that number 1 slot. nothing like competition for place to keep you on your toes. who ever is hot stays in and when form drops put the other guy in and let him see how long he can hold on.
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Post by texpef on Apr 20, 2017 13:59:52 GMT
Zack Fitzgerald, John Armstrong, Robert Dowd, Levi Nelson, Captain Jonathan Phillips, Luke Ferrara, Liam Kirk and Cole Shudra are all under contract for the season ahead.
Given who they have announced as resigning next season looks like no goalies are going to be safe again...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 15:43:18 GMT
Zack Fitzgerald, John Armstrong, Robert Dowd, Levi Nelson, Captain Jonathan Phillips, Luke Ferrara, Liam Kirk and Cole Shudra are all under contract for the season ahead. Given who they have announced as resigning next season looks like no goalies are going to be safe again... Only if they are not protected !! If Armstrong had got filled in by either our so called enforcer or spineless defenceman perhaps he wouldn't do it again .. just a throught
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Post by iginla on Apr 20, 2017 15:49:38 GMT
Still don't really get this, especially as the article says Corey said (correctly imho) that he was the best goalie in the league. Only makes sense if Corey has a stud goalie lined up already, or the shadow of NB has told him he won't have any cash for an import backup this year. As good as Miika is he cant complete a full sesson. You cant build a championship team on players who you know will get injured. And theres no import that cant be replaced. Very true Dill. But no goalie is going to be able to play every game in a Panthers season,not even a stud goalie,we need TWO IMPORT goalies to compete properly. Panthers just don't plan ahead. Neilson,Black and Moran all knew last season that we were going to play an 80 game season,so to start with just an injury prone Wiikman and the hopeless Dan Green was just complete and utter madness. Yes they brought in Pacl,but too late the damage was already done and seriously,he wasn't the answer,just a quick cheap option,the same as Sarkanis later on. Had we not let our Brit pack diminish so badly over the years,now the import limit is up to 14 it would have been perfectly feasible to go with two import goalies and play them both together at the expense of an import skater. Yet again,no planning ahead on the Brit front though !
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Post by pantherlee on Apr 20, 2017 16:07:14 GMT
As good as Miika is he cant complete a full sesson. You cant build a championship team on players who you know will get injured. And theres no import that cant be replaced. Very true Dill. But no goalie is going to be able to play every game in a Panthers season,not even a stud goalie,we need TWO IMPORT goalies to compete properly. Panthers just don't plan ahead. Neilson,Black and Moran all knew last season that we were going to play an 80 game season,so to start with just an injury prone Wiikman and the hopeless Dan Green was just complete and utter madness. Yes they brought in Pacl,but too late the damage was already done and seriously,he wasn't the answer,just a quick cheap option,the same as Sarkanis later on. Had we not let our Brit pack diminish so badly over the years,now the import limit is up to 14 it would have been perfectly feasible to go with two import goalies and play them both together at the expense of an import skater. Yet again,no planning ahead on the Brit front though ! Agree i think this league is now big enough to support 2 import goalies and bringing in a couple of players like Matty Davies or Jack Prince or others, theres more out there if you look hard enough they could replace Dan Green and the soon to be retiring (within the next year or two you would think) that should be enough to offset losing an import skater, and if one of the goalies picks up an injury it shouldn't be too difficult to draft in an emergency backup for from the Lions or similar.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 20, 2017 16:10:57 GMT
so to start with just an injury prone Wiikman and the hopeless Dan Green was just complete and utter madness Good job they didn't then. Pacl was in from the off.
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Post by iginla on Apr 20, 2017 16:16:19 GMT
so to start with just an injury prone Wiikman and the hopeless Dan Green was just complete and utter madness Good job they didn't then. Pacl was in from the off. If i remember correctly,Pacl only arrived......because Wiikman got injured pre season in France ! It was the usual knee jerk reaction from Panthers,just a bit quicker than usual because it was a goalie.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 20, 2017 16:23:23 GMT
I don't remember when, but I know he wasn't our last signing, and he was here for the first game of the season (I think he may have played it).
There's a lot to criticise Panthers for, but to complain we need 2 import goalies, when we've just had 2 import goalies all season, seems a bit much.
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Post by iginla on Apr 20, 2017 16:44:02 GMT
I don't remember when, but I know he wasn't our last signing, and he was here for the first game of the season (I think he may have played it). There's a lot to criticise Panthers for, but to complain we need 2 import goalies, when we've just had 2 import goalies all season, seems a bit much. I'm talking PROPER import goalies,not one and a half,with one of them probably earning less than half what Dan Green does ! Pacl wasn't the last signing no,Mcgrattan came later because of the balls up with Janssen. That's another one with potential to go wrong too. I'd be saying to Mcgrattan,give us an answer in the next two weeks or forget the 2nd year option. From his latest interview,it seems he thinks he can bum around all summer,then tell us in late July whether he's coming back....sorry but that's not good enough. If a player isn't committed,any player,then we don't want him !
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