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Post by Gilly on Feb 13, 2017 8:14:28 GMT
hadn't realised this prior to the match but Devils bought in another top quality forward to add to their already impressive roster, and exactly the type of player we need (along with numerous Dmen!). Just shows the difference between the 2 organisations
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Feb 13, 2017 8:24:23 GMT
hadn't realised this prior to the match but Devils bought in another top quality forward to add to their already impressive roster, and exactly the type of player we need (along with numerous Dmen!). Just shows the difference between the 2 organisations I think the main difference is in the GM position. One is a former player who understands the requirements of running a hockey team. The other isn't and doesn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 8:55:21 GMT
Betteridge gets levelled by Bordeleau at the end of a game that has lacked physicality and Nikiforuk is going over to him to have words, why is McGrattan not challenging him?! Put the lovey dovey crap aside and show that you don't do that to our players, pathetic performance all around McGrattan proves time and time gain that he's not a team man. Would like to see him do one and not bother coming back next season. Give me Cam over him everyday of the week. Not once this season has McGratton done what he's paid to do. He's trying to be someone he's not and actually thinks he's better than he actually is |
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Post by cooperphil156 on Feb 13, 2017 8:55:26 GMT
hadn't realised this prior to the match but Devils bought in another top quality forward to add to their already impressive roster, and exactly the type of player we need (along with numerous Dmen!). Just shows the difference between the 2 organisations I think the main difference is in the GM position. One is a former player who understands the requirements of running a hockey team. The other isn't and doesn't. I think most people have realised that Todd Kelman is probably the best GM in the league. How Giants must be regretting letting him go. |
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Post by fishman on Feb 13, 2017 9:12:10 GMT
Betteridge gets levelled by Bordeleau at the end of a game that has lacked physicality and Nikiforuk is going over to him to have words, why is McGrattan not challenging him?! Put the lovey dovey crap aside and show that you don't do that to our players, pathetic performance all around McGrattan proves time and time gain that he's not a team man. Would like to see him do one and not bother coming back next season. McGratten just a showboater plays about 10 mins, does a bit of pushing & shoving and thinks he's done his job, Panthers could have anyone of 100 player to do that. And those who wanted Neilson back I hope your still please with the owner choice!!!!!!! |
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 13, 2017 9:16:46 GMT
McGrattan proves time and time gain that he's not a team man. Would like to see him do one and not bother coming back next season. Give me Cam over him everyday of the week. Not once this season has McGratton done what he's paid to do. He's trying to be someone he's not and actually thinks he's better than he actually is Really unsure on how to assess McGratton. Really thought he was a waste of a slot at the start of the season. A number of times there have been scuffles whilst he has been on the ice and he almost looked like he'd made a point of being as far away as possible. Then i'd allowed myself to be convinced that he was that scary people were behaving just because of his presence. And then the last few weeks happened. Players cheap shotting, players getting injured and no sign of any protection. However whilst that's all been going on he has found a way to pick up some good points. I think next year I'd look at setting it up differently. I'd view McGratton as a Power forward(Salters type) and have him be MacMillans replacement on the forward lines. Bring in a Cam type energy player, Keep Brown and Farmer obviously, then upgrade the rest of the import forwards to get some serious production, including a Ling/Finnerty/Richardson/Sacratini type. That gives us more than enough toughness and grit, a little spice to wind up the opposition and hopefully plenty of scoring. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 9:22:06 GMT
McGrattan proves time and time gain that he's not a team man. Would like to see him do one and not bother coming back next season. McGratten just a showboater plays about 10 mins, does a bit of pushing & shoving and thinks he's done his job, Panthers could have anyone of 100 player to do that. And those who wanted Neilson back I hope your still please with the owner choice!!!!!!! They've gone into hiding!! People bang on that's he's the most successful coach blah blah blah but how many fans of other teams have gone on record saying they'd want him there ? Isn't that telling you something. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 9:50:36 GMT
I'm quite happy with Neilson as coach
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Post by fishman on Feb 13, 2017 10:31:53 GMT
I'm quite happy with Neilson as coach That's good then, I'm please for you enjoy the rest of the season |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 10:39:07 GMT
Must be contempt with mediocrity hey lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 10:40:07 GMT
I'm quite happy with Neilson as coach That's good then, I'm please for you enjoy the rest of the season The problems at the club go higher than Neilson. At every other EIHL club the coach is the most important person in the organisation. At ours he's not. Speaks volumes. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 10:40:36 GMT
Must be contempt with mediocrity hey lol No I just don't change my mind like the wind. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 10:49:09 GMT
My thoughts on CN hasn't changed since before 2013 (Yes including the one and only league win) once things for certain he doesn't seem capable to and has improved not to learn from his mistakes and doesn't even replicate a winning formular... shall I go on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 10:56:43 GMT
Who do the club replace him with?
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Post by Yotes on Feb 13, 2017 11:16:27 GMT
Who do the club replace him with? The club (Gary) would replace him with David Clarke. I'm not a Neilson fan particularly, but it'd be interesting to hear his candid thoughts on certain aspects of the setup. Does the lack of a S&C coach annoy him, does he get a free hand in recruitment, etc. Sadly we'll never hear that, at least not while he is the coach. |
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Post by fishman on Feb 13, 2017 11:22:51 GMT
Who do the club replace him with? Me personally I like the thought of Chuck Weber, some wanted Paul Adey, what about big Gerad Adams did OK at Steelers 2nd in the league and playoff winners the reversed that the following season |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 11:36:06 GMT
Who do the club replace him with? The club (Gary) would replace him with David Clarke. I'm not a Neilson fan particularly, but it'd be interesting to hear his candid thoughts on certain aspects of the setup. Does the lack of a S&C coach annoy him, does he get a free hand in recruitment, etc. Sadly we'll never hear that, at least not while he is the coach. And this is my thinking also. The fact is the club have had the opportunity to replace CN in the past and haven't. Why? My guess is because other coaches simply won't come and work for a club where they aren't the most important person in the organisation. We can't get better than CN so why replace him? While I accept that league performance has been dire (2012/13 excepted) no-one can argue that CN hasn't brought us success trophy wise. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 11:39:43 GMT
Any coach who's prepared to take flake if the team doesn't show up. Abit of transparency wouldn't go amiss too.. Someone who once finds chemistry in his lines leave them alone an who doesn't change the whole roster around to accommodate one injured player.
A coach who doesn't ice brits average brits in important parts of a game such as on face offs in your defensive end in the last 5 mins for example.
A coach who doesn't ice 2 d men in ot when it's 3 on 3 !
Shall I go on ..
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Post by fishman on Feb 13, 2017 11:45:23 GMT
The club (Gary) would replace him with David Clarke. I'm not a Neilson fan particularly, but it'd be interesting to hear his candid thoughts on certain aspects of the setup. Does the lack of a S&C coach annoy him, does he get a free hand in recruitment, etc. Sadly we'll never hear that, at least not while he is the coach. And this is my thinking also. The fact is the club have had the opportunity to replace CN in the past and haven't. Why? My guess is because other coaches simply won't come and work for a club where they aren't the most important person in the organisation. We can't get better than CN so why replace him? While I accept that league performance has been dire (2012/13 excepted) no-one can argue that CN hasn't brought us success trophy wise. Do you think that Andrew Lord is the main man at Cardiff then, I think Todd Kelman recruits players etc |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 11:50:07 GMT
And this is my thinking also. The fact is the club have had the opportunity to replace CN in the past and haven't. Why? My guess is because other coaches simply won't come and work for a club where they aren't the most important person in the organisation. We can't get better than CN so why replace him? While I accept that league performance has been dire (2012/13 excepted) no-one can argue that CN hasn't brought us success trophy wise. Do you think that Andrew Lord is the main man at Cardiff then, I think Todd Kelman recruits players etc Absolutely he is. Backed to the hilt, given a long term contract, all on ice decisions down to him, candid in interviews. |
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Post by iginla on Feb 13, 2017 12:00:35 GMT
And this is my thinking also. The fact is the club have had the opportunity to replace CN in the past and haven't. Why? My guess is because other coaches simply won't come and work for a club where they aren't the most important person in the organisation. We can't get better than CN so why replace him? While I accept that league performance has been dire (2012/13 excepted) no-one can argue that CN hasn't brought us success trophy wise. Do you think that Andrew Lord is the main man at Cardiff then, I think Todd Kelman recruits players etc My bet is Lord and Kelman work very very closely together. The big difference is that they both pull in the same direction at the same time,for a common goal,unlike Panthers. Look at what Cardiff have done this week. Hardly lost a man game to injury all season,they already have a spare import,ten days ago they lose Jake Morrisette to injury for a few weeks and yet.....straight away BANG they sign another new forward Denny Kearney. Now contrast that with Panthers. You couldn't get much further apart in two different clubs attitudes..........One team wants to win and the other couldn't give a crap so long as the "good seats" keep selling well !!!!! |
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Post by pingchowchi on Feb 13, 2017 12:22:32 GMT
I think Black knows what he is getting with GM and Corey, he knows that there will be no criticism of him or the club come from either of them, profits I assume are up and the Panthers are in Europe in next season. I think, for Black, keeping them both on is the easiest choice for him.
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Post by Mark on Feb 13, 2017 12:58:16 GMT
We all know that until Moran goes the Panthers will be held back. Many fans say it. Officials from other clubs say it and ex Panthers players say it.
The ego that is Gary Moran effects every aspect of our club in a negative way. Unfortunately the status quo will remain because under the present regime Neil Black is making a decent profit.
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Post by fishman on Feb 13, 2017 13:04:28 GMT
Highlights
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Post by spik on Feb 13, 2017 13:32:21 GMT
I think the main difference is in the GM position. One is a former player who understands the requirements of running a hockey team. The other isn't and doesn't. I think most people have realised that Todd Kelman is probably the best GM in the league. How Giants must be regretting letting him go. AND....he answers emails, twice to me this actual week abouit play-off structure. |
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