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Post by ted logan on Dec 27, 2016 20:58:43 GMT
I wasn't exactly sure what I saw, but I've spoken to 2 friends both of whom saw it clearly. No doubt there will be no consequences... as usual. I believe it was Roy who did that Quite possible. It was at the 'forwards end' of the bench.
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Post by dexter on Dec 27, 2016 21:00:07 GMT
The slash from the bench needs to be raised to the right parties. Disgusting lack of sportsmanship from the Steelers.
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Post by EMB on Dec 27, 2016 21:00:30 GMT
That's the 2nd night in a row that Roy and been done for slashing, he's quite handy at it but these two games he's been caught out and punished. Don't think we played as well as last night until the 3rd but wow did we battle. Every single one of them battled for each other and deserved that.
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Post by titch on Dec 27, 2016 21:15:01 GMT
As good as Mikka was once again. Williams was easily the best player on that ice. At times too good for the opposition. Honorable mentions go schultz and Nikiforuk again. Outstanding team effort and a excellent 4 point haul Something I can agree with Pidge on for once. Williams is easily the best player in this league, how a league like the EIHL got him, I'll never know. Just to think he's 'rusty'. I hope he'll enjoy his time in Nottingham and stays all season, we know how contracts work in the Elite League. Big kudos to whoever got in contact with him. Can you imagine how good he'll be against teams like Coventry? They won't be able to contain him. I was very confident on getting 2 points against the Steelers but I never thought we'd get the 4! Looks like there has been a few hundred ticket sales for the 31st against Coventry due to the result tonight, we're only a couple of hundred away from a home sell-out. Our fans are incredible, especially when they create a deafening atmosphere (at points) tonight.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 27, 2016 21:17:52 GMT
Should have been tied to his left --------. They couldn't find any volunteers...
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Post by cooperphil156 on Dec 27, 2016 21:20:18 GMT
Probably got injured in the crush.
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Post by Pies on Dec 27, 2016 21:39:50 GMT
I think the only sour note for me is some bad fan interactions on the concourse. Both sets of fans guilty of it and it's a shame really!
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Post by ant on Dec 27, 2016 21:45:21 GMT
Just need a blaze win in Cardiff now. It's closer than expected...
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Post by EMB on Dec 27, 2016 22:00:23 GMT
Just need a blaze win in Cardiff now. It's closer than expected... Was looking that way but Devils just equalised.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Dec 27, 2016 22:01:00 GMT
I think the only sour note for me is some bad fan interactions on the concourse. Both sets of fans guilty of it and it's a shame really! Agree, spoils a good night, but unfortunately there will always be a few who cannot accept a result. Have to say I have seen some of our own fans react like this in the past _ Have to say that is some cases it is a reaction to the way the players have acted during the game, having the coach and the players chirping at the ref all game gives the wrong example to the fans, and the rest is frustration or drink
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Post by pigginhellsbells on Dec 27, 2016 22:34:38 GMT
Just listened to tommo on his view of the game he says steelers not a dirty team they hard done by cos of ref needs to look at himself he had dirty team in blaze that's wot he dose team follows the coach no control he needs to look at him self let's see if anything comes of there dirty play slashing lacho not after game antics not abuse of officials I think not
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Post by Mark on Dec 27, 2016 22:52:47 GMT
It's almost as if the Steelers expect the officials to constantly favour themselves and cannot believe it when they don't, causing a meltdown from top to bottom. Four points from the classless idiots and the expected reaction. Full value entertainment.
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Post by Shaggy on Dec 27, 2016 22:56:06 GMT
I think Corey sums it up pretty well...
(from the Nottingham Post)
That Steelers team is, at times, scarily good. They are fast - their transition game is one of the fastest I remember seeing - they are well-drilled, coordinated and very offensively-minded (much less so defensively, which is not the traditional approach from Them Lot (TM) ). I have never rated Muskrat (whatever his name is) between the pipes as being anything more than 'good'... and I maintain that he's still a weakness for them at times (makes some damned fine saves, but he forces his outskaters to work harder than they should to support him and clear up the debris after saves)... it's their full-team defence that digs them out of most holes.
But their biggest weakness is standing on the bench - Paul Thompson. Their discipline is abysmal, right across the board... and that is the coach's responsibility. Paul Thompson has always been a mardy grandstander who lives and breathes cheap-shotting... nothing to do with him being at Sheffield, he was just the same in Coventry. And it's always someone else's fault, it's always unfair, it's a conspiracy, they're always the victims... yeah, right. He is their Achilles Heel, and if you can just keep your head better than them, take a deep breath and knuckle down & get on with it when their toys start flying out of the pram... you've got a big advantage.
How to beat the Steelers... let them beat themselves, then go in for the kill. Point proven tonight.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 27, 2016 23:02:17 GMT
Thompson has gone from a coach with passion to a petulant undisciplined idiot who has lost complete control of his team. His team followed his example and threw the game away then blamed the ref. I see fines coming his way in the near future Chairman Smith or not. The funniest part (apart from the Steelers fans chanting that Williams was a waste of money lol) was the near ENG when Mustukovs was still sauntering off the ice.
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Post by Bagheera on Dec 28, 2016 6:55:31 GMT
Great win and a great 4 points.
To keep argueably the best offensive team in the league down to 2 goals each game with such a depleted D was a fantastic effort. MacMillan very good both days. Steve Lee stepping up and playing better and the other 3 logging tons of minutes. O.k they did make a few mistakes, but they must be exhausted being on the ice so much. Especially with the schedule at the minute too.
We worked very, very hard and showed the grit we always knew this team had. Adding that sprinkling of class made the difference. Over the two games every player has contributed. Wiikman, Williams, Linghagen & Schultz the stand outs for me.
Farmer has been awesome recently, but thought he was having his worst game in a while yesterday. Then he came on the ice for a change after the Miika/Roy incident, chirped Roy and drew the penalty. Job done. That leads nicely on to the referee/ discipline. I'm truely baffled that Sheffield feel hard done to by the ref. I know we have tinted spectacles as do they, however I spent half the night screaming at the ref for missing/not making calls. He missed some both ways, but I personally think we were short changed on the penalty count. Including 2 or 3 real dirty plays too. The slash from the bench plus 1 or 2 spears. Again, well done to Panthers for keeping it together.
Finally..... You have to say well done to Corey and the coaching staff(I need to lie down). Back to back wins against Sheffield and everybody has to have contributed, especially when as short on D as we are.
Just about at the half way point. Plenty of games to go. A huge ask, but a 10 games streak could see us back in it. Look how quickly we've reeled Steelers in. The first major obsticle being Europe.
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Post by Dharcy on Dec 28, 2016 8:49:57 GMT
Sounds like I've missed a good match. Well done lads. Proves that it can be done. Finishing Top 3 (Top 2??) will be amazing, as I doubt we can topple Cardiff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 10:27:34 GMT
Great double and great to see (although not witnessed by myself) Williams hit the ground running in both games, Thommo really never learns does he? Nothing will ever beat him getting a bench penalty then us scoring on the resulting powerplay last year.
Most intriguing coming out this run of fixtures is how MacMillan is seemingly flourishing as a d-man, in the games I've seen against the Clan the Stars he was very good back there so is there any credence in leaving him back there & pushing Lindhagen up top with another forward being the scratch (as I recall people viewing MacMillan as the one likely to sit) when Waugh & Dimmen return?
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Dec 28, 2016 10:38:24 GMT
Great double and great to see (although not witnessed by myself) Williams hit the ground running in both games, Thommo really never learns does he? Nothing will ever beat him getting a bench penalty then us scoring on the resulting powerplay last year. Most intriguing coming out this run of fixtures is how MacMillan is seemingly flourishing as a d-man, in the games I've seen against the Clan the Stars he was very good back there so is there any credence in leaving him back there & pushing Lindhagen up top with another forward being the scratch (as I recall people viewing MacMillan as the one likely to sit) when Waugh & Dimmen return? I was thinking the exact same about MacMillan at the back, then started to notice a couple of costly mistakes creeping in. Personally I'd still say he's the first name to drop when Dimmen & Waugh make a miraculous return for the Conti Cup. Lindhagen is a better than MacMillan both as a forward and d-man too.
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Post by iginla on Dec 28, 2016 10:38:26 GMT
What a mardi whingebag Thommo is,blames everybody but himself and his star player Roy who really cost them. Notice he didn't mention who got the most penalties or who had the most power plays on Boxing Day !
Steelers were very lucky yesterday they didn't get more penalties,they easily could and should have done.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 10:42:53 GMT
Just listened to tommo on his view of the game he says steelers not a dirty team they hard done by cos of ref needs to look at himself he had dirty team in blaze that's wot he dose team follows the coach no control he needs to look at him self let's see if anything comes of there dirty play slashing lacho not after game antics not abuse of officials I think not Here, have a few of these ....... & some of these ,,,,,, for next time. I agree with your post by the way.
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Post by wgray on Dec 28, 2016 11:33:48 GMT
What a game that was! I thought the first 10 mins of the game and the last 15 mins of the game we were better, but Sheffield came to play and hit us with speed and numbers on the counter. In all honesty I thought they played the better hockey but, as has been stated, lack of discipline cost them.
How they have the cheek to question it is embarrassing, that club has been the same since day one, a bunch of dirty, whinging, cheats. Panthers should be pushing the incident from the bench towards DOPS eyes because that is ridiculous.
Anyway what an end to the game, the atmosphere was like no other, electric! Jason Williams has certainly introduced himself, absolutely fantastic performance from everyone!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 11:43:23 GMT
Great double and great to see (although not witnessed by myself) Williams hit the ground running in both games, Thommo really never learns does he? Nothing will ever beat him getting a bench penalty then us scoring on the resulting powerplay last year. Most intriguing coming out this run of fixtures is how MacMillan is seemingly flourishing as a d-man, in the games I've seen against the Clan the Stars he was very good back there so is there any credence in leaving him back there & pushing Lindhagen up top with another forward being the scratch (as I recall people viewing MacMillan as the one likely to sit) when Waugh & Dimmen return? I was thinking the exact same about MacMillan at the back, then started to notice a couple of costly mistakes creeping in. Personally I'd still say he's the first name to drop when Dimmen & Waugh make a miraculous return for the Conti Cup. Lindhagen is a better than MacMillan both as a forward and d-man too. I just like the fact he's a big body back there (something we don't overly have since Kudroc left) and he has a very good poke check keeping shooters to the perimeter. It's a learning curve for him no doubt but I'm seeing a lot less criticism come his way since he's been moved back. Given the addition of Williams and Schultz starting to fire on all cylinders (when fit he's incredible) is it not more logical to scratch the much criticized Carter? This then frees MacMillan/Lindhagen to move up front and be the workhorse on a given line to compliment more gifted offensive players. There's also the added benefit that when MacMillan plays at centre he wins a lot of faceoffs, something that has been a bugbear of mine for many seasons.
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 28, 2016 11:46:09 GMT
I wonder what would have happened had Sheffield scored in the last minute having hacked away at Lacho, thus preventing the empty netter.
I expect we wouldn't have been best pleased and Thommo would be quiet as a mouse.
But, you know, Sheffield aren't a dirty team.
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Post by iginla on Dec 28, 2016 12:33:23 GMT
I was thinking the exact same about MacMillan at the back, then started to notice a couple of costly mistakes creeping in. Personally I'd still say he's the first name to drop when Dimmen & Waugh make a miraculous return for the Conti Cup. Lindhagen is a better than MacMillan both as a forward and d-man too. I just like the fact he's a big body back there (something we don't overly have since Kudroc left) and he has a very good poke check keeping shooters to the perimeter. It's a learning curve for him no doubt but I'm seeing a lot less criticism come his way since he's been moved back. Given the addition of Williams and Schultz starting to fire on all cylinders (when fit he's incredible) is it not more logical to scratch the much criticized Carter? This then frees MacMillan/Lindhagen to move up front and be the workhorse on a given line to compliment more gifted offensive players. There's also the added benefit that when MacMillan plays at centre he wins a lot of faceoffs, something that has been a bugbear of mine for many seasons. Think you will find that's what happens when they're all fit NYR. Macmillan will stay on D,Lindhagen goes up front and Carter gets scratched. Although to be fair to Carter he's playing injured and has been for a while.
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Post by ted logan on Dec 28, 2016 12:48:29 GMT
I see that elsewhere that self-declared example of neutral comment 'Doom' is whinging about the ref. Not sure he has a leg to stand on, what with Steelers losing the plot and even slashing Panthers players from the bench (which went unpunished). Just had a read. In fairness to the other posters on there, he is in a minority of himself plus maybe 1-2 others. Most are rightly pointing the finger at their obvious lack of discipline, both on and off the ice. They saw a ref who tried to let the game flow and keep his whistle in his pocket. So, they reverted to type and tried to take advantage, it backfired. Then they moaned about it. Some things never change.
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