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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Nov 30, 2016 22:16:50 GMT
Last slither of hope at a run for the title gone, in november!
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 30, 2016 22:17:06 GMT
What cheating by using an illegal stick? Yeh cos that's the reason Cardiff won... Never said it was. You're implying it's pathetic that Panthers aaked for the measure to at least attempt to have a chance to rescue the game. A measure which happened to be correct on a player that is cheating. It's a penalty within the game. A tactic that used to be used regularly in those situations. Fair play to Corey for attempting to do all he could in that situation.
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Post by spik on Nov 30, 2016 22:17:57 GMT
What cheating by using an illegal stick? Yeh cos that's the reason Cardiff won... We could have had 2 illegal sticks but there was no call. It's the fact that we called this as an attempt to avoid a 5 on 3, better if it were that two did not get into the box first if we knew of the stick. If that's what happened and I see it right.
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Post by spik on Nov 30, 2016 22:22:08 GMT
Made me think what call in the last 2 minutes etc or something like that calls for a PS?
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Post by Mark Mac on Nov 30, 2016 22:22:54 GMT
Yeh cos that's the reason Cardiff won... Never said it was. You're implying it's pathetic that Panthers aaked for the measure to at least attempt to have a chance to rescue the game. A measure which happened to be correct on a player that is cheating. It's a penalty within the game. A tactic that used to be used regularly in those situations. Fair play to Corey for attempting to do all he could in that situation. No, I'm not implying it's pathetic, I'm saying it is pathetic. Considering it is so rarely checked I'd wager one of our guys has an illegal stick. Corey should do his job properly and sign a better team and come up with better strategies. That would solve the problem and make us win more.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 30, 2016 22:24:32 GMT
Not seen the old stick measurement call for a few eons.
Can't comment on the game or the fairness of any calls, but you're going to struggle to make a single goal stand up whatever happens, especially with 2 of our better defencemen out.
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Post by EMB on Nov 30, 2016 22:25:20 GMT
Tough loss that, a very good game ruined by some dubious calls . We battled hard which is a shame. Wonder if MCGratten will get anything for his antics towards the ref at the end.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 22:27:33 GMT
Not seen the old stick measurement call for a few eons. Can't comment on the game or the fairness of any calls, but you're going to struggle to make a single goal stand up whatever happens, especially with 2 of our better defencemen out. Yeah and what's been done AGAIN to bring in replacements!!! Sheffield had Hagos injured and Valdix.. yup that's right wham bang they bring back Jack Coyle as back up !! And now have a spare import
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 30, 2016 22:30:45 GMT
Never said it was. You're implying it's pathetic that Panthers aaked for the measure to at least attempt to have a chance to rescue the game. A measure which happened to be correct on a player that is cheating. It's a penalty within the game. A tactic that used to be used regularly in those situations. Fair play to Corey for attempting to do all he could in that situation. No, I'm not implying it's pathetic, I'm saying it is pathetic. Considering it is so rarely checked I'd wager one of our guys has an illegal stick. Corey should do his job properly and sign a better team and come up with better strategies. That would solve the problem and make us win more. Im not judging the rest of the game, season or Corey overall. If I were i'm sure we'd be on the same page. The bloke is the main reason we are where we at the minute. I wanted him gone at least a season ago. In this situation, in a game where many, and clearly the team feel they were hard done too he decided to apply a Rule to give us at least a slim chance. Don't think I have ever seen him call it before so not like something he does regualarly. Fair play to him for trying it. And I'm sure many people in the league use illegal sticks. If a Panther got called for it i'd say fair play to the opposition. If you're gonna cheat it will probably bite you in the hairy bum at some point.
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 30, 2016 22:39:24 GMT
Way way more angry tonight than after the 8-1. I was there that night and I left pretty much laughing. It was soo bad, but we got what we deserved. Tonight we went to argueably the hardest place to go and battled hard, nailed our game plan for 50mins and looked good. Only not to get what we deserved. Getting a point would have made it palatable.
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Post by mmmbop on Nov 30, 2016 22:41:48 GMT
Played well alot of the game wiikman was outstanding.
The ref, happens sadly.
Still don't think Carter has a heartbeat If they did a Shaun of the dead 2 least he would get a starring role
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Post by dill1015 on Nov 30, 2016 23:02:50 GMT
Not a suprising result but prehaps a suprising scoreline. This just further highlights our problem for me though.
We played well and Devils weren't amazing for the first 2 periods. But we didnt put the game to bed. We just dont have the creativity to get the goals that put games out of sight. Just look who scorced the two big goals for Cardiff. Martin and Doucet, 2 go to guys. And thats the difference.
Im afraid until we cut the deadwood and bring in some raw creativity we are dead in the water this season. And i get the horrible feeling we are going to be going on a 4 league game losing streak... again.
As has been said, this loss puts the final nail in our league coffin before december. What a shambles. Hamg your heads in shame Panthers. This is as poor as its been for some years.
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Post by pantherdman on Dec 1, 2016 6:24:08 GMT
So many what ifs this season again. Singing injury cover may have been the difference in this one. Played great for 50mins, probably ran out of gas, I can take that from the players, they did their bit tonight.
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Dec 1, 2016 7:41:52 GMT
Corey,GM and black to blame, I can take losing away to Cardiff but when it puts us 16 points behind not even half way through the season, it's a joke. Mistakes were made in the summer recruiting and it was obvious after a few games what the problems were and nothing or very little has been done to rectify it. Us, the fans, are being taken for a ride by the management of this club, but they don't care, as we will still buy tickets, until it changes I can't see how they will change anything
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Post by joesteeler on Dec 1, 2016 8:33:40 GMT
I watched this game on the webcast, and Nottingham fully deserved the win.
Can I comment on the referee's performance, yet again in Cardiff and yet again Cardiff were presented with an opportunity to score a goal and also gifted one.
Doucet's goal. How can Hicks not see that his stick is above the crossbar when he's looking directly at the play?
Devils goal on the PP to take the lead. The softest of calls on Schultz to put the Devils on the PP which they score from. Even the commentators were a bit taken back. It's just not good enough at this level.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 10:06:36 GMT
Never said it was. You're implying it's pathetic that Panthers aaked for the measure to at least attempt to have a chance to rescue the game. A measure which happened to be correct on a player that is cheating. It's a penalty within the game. A tactic that used to be used regularly in those situations. Fair play to Corey for attempting to do all he could in that situation. No, I'm not implying it's pathetic, I'm saying it is pathetic. Considering it is so rarely checked I'd wager one of our guys has an illegal stick. Corey should do his job properly and sign a better team and come up with better strategies. That would solve the problem and make us win more. But Corey was correct, so in that particular instance he was doing his job properly... No?
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Post by Yotes on Dec 1, 2016 12:31:10 GMT
Highlights here: www.cardiffdevils.com/news/watch-highlights-nov-30th-win-over-panthers/Probably is a high stick, although I was expecting it to be more egregious than that tbh. Considering the speed of the play and the downward motion of his stick (when it hits the net it's down by his legs), I can see why Hicks would struggle to pick that out in real time. Could also ask why Kudroc and Lee allow him to be stood there.
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Post by BigLad on Dec 1, 2016 13:21:39 GMT
Nice lazy pass from a hungover Lawrence for the empty netter. By all accounts it was a gutsy performance last night and a couple of calls went the wrong way. Assuming we did shake the refs hand after though?
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Post by ted logan on Dec 1, 2016 13:48:32 GMT
We seem to be very good at finding different ways to lose this season. Screwed by the stripeys was bound to happen at some point.
Cardiff based CHL employee Hicks is an awful ref though. Never rated him.
League title aspirations over well before Xmas is shocking. Even in the 'Berube season' we were in the hunt way past this point. Just not good enough. Nowhere near.
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Post by wannabe2 on Dec 1, 2016 18:46:22 GMT
Hopefully you guys will vent your anger on the Steelers, four point weekend for Panthers would be my ideal Xmas present.
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Post by dill1015 on Dec 1, 2016 19:29:57 GMT
Hopefully you guys will vent your anger on the Steelers, four point weekend for Panthers would be my ideal Xmas present. At this point im happy to loan my support to Devils for the rest of the league. Just stop Steelers winning 3 in a row. It would be a travesty if their defence managed to win a league title.
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Post by dp on Dec 1, 2016 19:32:12 GMT
All the excuses in the world, but we only scored one goal. That's very rarely going to be enough to win a game of hockey, particularly away.
I always say this, but it was very apparent in the grand slam season that excuses were never offered. Fox (or even Corey) would come out and take the blame on the (rare) occasions we lost. Taking the blame means players don't have a get out. As soon as you start making excuses for them their mentality changes because they know they'll be defended - it's such basic psychology.
This season was over as soon as our squad was signed unfortunately, but we pretty much had to win out for the rest of the season after our 6 game losing streak to even make things interesting. Which was never going to happen.
I'm just so bored of this club now - which is why i hardly ever go anymore. It's nothing to do with winning - we hardly ever used to win when I first started watching - it's all just so boring, repetitive and predictable.
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Post by iginla on Dec 1, 2016 19:59:55 GMT
All the excuses in the world, but we only scored one goal. That's very rarely going to be enough to win a game of hockey, particularly away. I always say this, but it was very apparent in the grand slam season that excuses were never offered. Fox (or even Corey) would come out and take the blame on the (rare) occasions we lost. Taking the blame means players don't have a get out. As soon as you start making excuses for them their mentality changes because they know they'll be defended - it's such basic psychology. This season was over as soon as our squad was signed unfortunately, but we pretty much had to win out for the rest of the season after our 6 game losing streak to even make things interesting. Which was never going to happen. I'm just so bored of this club now - which is why i hardly ever go anymore. It's nothing to do with winning - we hardly ever used to win when I first started watching - it's all just so boring, repetitive and predictable. Why would the players stand up to be counted when their coach won't even face the camera or even radio after a shocking thrashing at Sheffield. You are right we were doomed as soon as this squad was signed. We always either have a team of skill with no grit,or like this year a team of grit with little skill. We are apparently the second lowest scorers in the league at the moment,for a Panthers team that is beyond poor and that stat alone will ensure you won't win this league.
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Post by mmmbop on Dec 1, 2016 20:08:06 GMT
When we normally choke at Christmas time I always sit in my seat sing,'Its starting to look a lot like Christmas' Panthers have even took that way this year by choking earlier
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Post by iginla on Dec 1, 2016 20:38:11 GMT
When we normally choke at Christmas time I always sit in my seat sing,'Its starting to look a lot like Christmas' Panthers have even took that way this year by choking earlier Perhaps that's what we should all sing in the arena this weekend. I bet Ken daren't play it ! Lol
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