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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Nov 26, 2016 12:00:03 GMT
I thought we played better tonight, although still some basic errors. A shame Spang didn't score after his mazy skate up the ice. Carter still not convincing. The release on his penalty shot was so quick. Why can't he do it in a game. Nikiforuk works both ends of the ice so well. Thought both netminders were mom tonight, and whoever chose Nickerson and McGrattan was obviously a fight fan. Let's hope this is a confidence boost for Sunday, although still plenty of work to do. I pulled it up about Carter on the 'Roster changes' thread in response to PanthersB ludicrous excuse for Carter being too heavy... I think he just doesn't like anything physical. To sink that pen shot shows what can do, and in France he could do it in actual play with relatively no threat of being hit or checked. Here, with big D-men like Nickerson, Martinelli & Vandermeer, I've lost count how many times he's been given the puck at the back post and fluffed it up (twice last night alone)! Correct me if wrong but as someone billed as being a sharp-shooter in the summer, that pen shot was Carter's first goal at home...
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Post by Shorty on Nov 26, 2016 12:42:57 GMT
I thought we played better tonight, although still some basic errors. A shame Spang didn't score after his mazy skate up the ice. Carter still not convincing. The release on his penalty shot was so quick. Why can't he do it in a game. Nikiforuk works both ends of the ice so well. Thought both netminders were mom tonight, and whoever chose Nickerson and McGrattan was obviously a fight fan. Let's hope this is a confidence boost for Sunday, although still plenty of work to do. Correct me if wrong but as someone billed as being a sharp-shooter in the summer, that pen shot was Carter's first goal at home... He has scored at home, although it was quite a big deflection. It was in the overtime defeat to Belfast. Still, it is an exceptionally poor return.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Nov 26, 2016 13:00:11 GMT
Correct me if wrong but as someone billed as being a sharp-shooter in the summer, that pen shot was Carter's first goal at home... He has scored at home, although it was quite a big deflection. It was in the overtime defeat to Belfast. Still, it is an exceptionally poor return. Ahh yes! And still better than MacMillan.
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 26, 2016 13:12:44 GMT
He has scored at home, although it was quite a big deflection. It was in the overtime defeat to Belfast. Still, it is an exceptionally poor return. Ahh yes! And still better than MacMillan. Except that MacMillan wasn't brought in primarily as a goalscorer... Carter was.
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Post by Ghost on Nov 26, 2016 13:14:39 GMT
Ahh yes! And still better than MacMillan. Except that MacMillan wasn't brought in primarily as a goalscorer... Carter was. Even so. Macmillan has been disappointing this year. Didn't get all the fuss last year either.
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Post by PantherTom on Nov 26, 2016 14:05:35 GMT
I've just asked the club spokeswoman, Mary Goran, and she confirms that yes, the other 7 clubs are indeed wrong. Great answer mate, and probably spot on, wonder what % of Panthers fans watch webcasts when the panthers play away, especially games against big rivals, it's the common sense thing to do. Wonder if the Moron watches Panthers when they are away, they are certainly losing revenue, there again maybe they don't need the money, but it's still a great shame. 6000+ everyweek says we don't need webcasts to be honest
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Post by Higgy on Nov 26, 2016 14:32:46 GMT
Great answer mate, and probably spot on, wonder what % of Panthers fans watch webcasts when the panthers play away, especially games against big rivals, it's the common sense thing to do. Wonder if the Moron watches Panthers when they are away, they are certainly losing revenue, there again maybe they don't need the money, but it's still a great shame. 6000+ everyweek says we don't need webcasts to be honest I still think we should offer one,I cant imagine many people watch webcasts...well not enough to effect attendances significantly anyway. 100 people from 6k isn't going to make much of a difference.
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Post by dill1015 on Nov 26, 2016 14:36:24 GMT
Ahh yes! And still better than MacMillan. Except that MacMillan wasn't brought in primarily as a goalscorer... Carter was. To be fair MacMillan isnt exactly doing... whatever it is he's supposed to be doing. Because hes not doing anything of note. Not defending Carter btw. I think both could easily be cut.
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Post by DMS on Nov 26, 2016 14:46:36 GMT
6000+ everyweek says we don't need webcasts to be honest I still think we should offer one,I cant imagine many people watch webcasts...well not enough to effect attendances significantly anyway. 100 people from 6k isn't going to make much of a difference. To panthers it would IN approx £500-700 of ticket revenue never mind merch, f&b. Whilst I'm the grand scheme of things it isn't a lot, I don't think panthers management would want to not have that money.
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 26, 2016 14:46:59 GMT
Except that MacMillan wasn't brought in primarily as a goalscorer... Carter was. To be fair MacMillan isnt exactly doing... whatever it is he's supposed to be doing. Because hes not doing anything of note. Not defending Carter btw. I think both could easily be cut. I would agree that Carter and MacMillan are probably the two most likely candidates for being replaced.
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Post by Peacock on Nov 26, 2016 15:18:20 GMT
6000+ everyweek says we don't need webcasts to be honest That's the same short-sighted view as Panther's Management. It's not all about our supporters. What about the thousands of Away supporters who can't afford the time/money to travel to away games, but would pay £8-£10 to watch a webcast of their team play at NIC...just as many Panther's fans do with other team's webcasts when Panthers are away?
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 26, 2016 15:24:50 GMT
HighlightsLovely pass from Nikiforuk for our first goal... and good work by Betteridge for sticking with it before the whistle for our second. Re the waved-off goal... can't really tell from that why it was waved off or whether it was a good call or not... couldn't tell last night from Block 15 either.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 26, 2016 15:40:53 GMT
6000+ everyweek says we don't need webcasts to be honest That's the same short-sighted view as Panther's Management. It's not all about our supporters. What about the thousands of Away supporters who can't afford the time/money to travel to away games, but would pay £8-£10 to watch a webcast of their team play at NIC...just as many Panther's fans do with other team's webcasts when Panthers are away? To add, if webcasts are being run at any kind of loss across the league, then the owners of the other clubs must be monumentally stupid to continue with them.
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 26, 2016 15:43:07 GMT
That's the same short-sighted view as Panther's Management. It's not all about our supporters. What about the thousands of Away supporters who can't afford the time/money to travel to away games, but would pay £8-£10 to watch a webcast of their team play at NIC...just as many Panther's fans do with other team's webcasts when Panthers are away? To add, if webcasts are being run at any kind of loss across the league, then the owners of the other clubs must be monumentally stupid to continue with them. I have no idea if webcasts are profitable or not... but since when have (as a group) club owners NOT been "monumentally stupid"?
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Nov 26, 2016 16:19:23 GMT
Except that MacMillan wasn't brought in primarily as a goalscorer... Carter was. To be fair MacMillan isnt exactly doing... whatever it is he's supposed to be doing. Because hes not doing anything of note. Not defending Carter btw. I think both could easily be cut. I think Corey must see MacMillan as his PK specialist... It's the only thing he does regularly, but even then he's not that great at it! 14 GP with 0G + 1A must be a record low for a Panthers import forward. Unfortunately at our level, you can't be so one dimensional.
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Post by wgray on Nov 26, 2016 17:19:12 GMT
To be fair MacMillan isnt exactly doing... whatever it is he's supposed to be doing. Because hes not doing anything of note. Not defending Carter btw. I think both could easily be cut. I think Corey must see MacMillan as his PK specialist... It's the only thing he does regularly, but even then he's not that great at it! 14 GP with 0G + 1A must be a record low for a Panthers import forward. Unfortunately at our level, you can't be so one dimensional. in all honesty, MacMillan, Lacho and Ollie should be our fourth line, that is mainly used to shut down opposition at full strength and to be involved with the PK, which is what they are doing and well, I see any goals or points from them as a bonus. So, that means the emphasis is on the other import forwards to get the goals, which the majority of them aren't, MacMillan is doing his job, the others aren't
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Post by kievthegreat on Nov 26, 2016 18:47:11 GMT
To be fair MacMillan isnt exactly doing... whatever it is he's supposed to be doing. Because hes not doing anything of note. Not defending Carter btw. I think both could easily be cut. I think Corey must see MacMillan as his PK specialist... It's the only thing he does regularly, but even then he's not that great at it! 14 GP with 0G + 1A must be a record low for a Panthers import forward. Unfortunately at our level, you can't be so one dimensional. 0.071 PPG this year, 0.467 PPG last year. Obvious a couple of good games could change that, but he looks devoid of confidence. also for reference, Cam Janssen was 0.157 PPG.
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Post by Ghost on Nov 26, 2016 20:37:12 GMT
I think Corey must see MacMillan as his PK specialist... It's the only thing he does regularly, but even then he's not that great at it! 14 GP with 0G + 1A must be a record low for a Panthers import forward. Unfortunately at our level, you can't be so one dimensional. in all honesty, MacMillan, Lacho and Ollie should be our fourth line, that is mainly used to shut down opposition at full strength and to be involved with the PK, which is what they are doing and well, I see any goals or points from them as a bonus. So, that means the emphasis is on the other import forwards to get the goals, which the majority of them aren't, MacMillan is doing his job, the others aren't Is he doing his job? For the lack of point return you'd expect someone who is elite defensively, in reality he's nowhere near that.
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Post by Mark on Nov 26, 2016 21:07:15 GMT
Only just woke up after last night's game. Did we win?
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 26, 2016 21:20:12 GMT
Only just woke up after last night's game. Did we win? It sure as hell wasn't anywhere near the greatest Panthers performance ever... but compared to what we've been seeing this last few weeks, I thought it was like a breath of fresh air. It dropped off somewhat in the third period, but for the first two periods there was energy & effort... we need more and better, no question - but it was a step forward.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Nov 26, 2016 21:25:49 GMT
HighlightsLovely pass from Nikiforuk for our first goal... and good work by Betteridge for sticking with it before the whistle for our second. Re the waved-off goal... can't really tell from that why it was waved off or whether it was a good call or not... couldn't tell last night from Block 15 either. I thought the rule was the puck can go in off of a players leg, skate etc, as long as it is not a distinct (ie deliberate) kicking motion. I don't see that on the highlights, and didn't see it that way live, so I'm surprised it wasn't a goal. Maybe the EIHL rule is exactly the opposite, any contact (however accidental) with the skate means it is no goal.
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Post by ted logan on Nov 26, 2016 21:53:00 GMT
HighlightsLovely pass from Nikiforuk for our first goal... and good work by Betteridge for sticking with it before the whistle for our second. Re the waved-off goal... can't really tell from that why it was waved off or whether it was a good call or not... couldn't tell last night from Block 15 either. I thought the rule was the puck can go in off of a players leg, skate etc, as long as it is not a distinct (ie deliberate) kicking motion. I don't see that on the highlights, and didn't see it that way live, so I'm surprised it wasn't a goal. Maybe the EIHL rule is exactly the opposite, any contact (however accidental) with the skate means it is no goal. In no way was that a kicking motion. I'm in block 10 and had a real good view. Thought it was a farcical call on the night and the replay proves it.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 26, 2016 22:32:44 GMT
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 26, 2016 22:34:22 GMT
HighlightsLovely pass from Nikiforuk for our first goal... and good work by Betteridge for sticking with it before the whistle for our second. Re the waved-off goal... can't really tell from that why it was waved off or whether it was a good call or not... couldn't tell last night from Block 15 either. I thought the rule was the puck can go in off of a players leg, skate etc, as long as it is not a distinct (ie deliberate) kicking motion. I don't see that on the highlights, and didn't see it that way live, so I'm surprised it wasn't a goal. Maybe the EIHL rule is exactly the opposite, any contact (however accidental) with the skate means it is no goal. I can only surmise - and this is pure guesswork on my part - that the ref judged that the puck was pushed into the goal by the skate of our guy as he was sliding along the ice. That could in no way be called "a distinct kicking motion", but is probably closer to that than being a simple deflection. It's very hard to tell from the highlights, and even harder to work out what the ref was thinking.
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Post by ted logan on Nov 26, 2016 22:42:51 GMT
There's no way he could've been 100% certain (with the view he had and bodies in the way) that it was deliberately kicked in. I think the Giants protests definitely swayed his decision.
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