ditsy
Jade Galbraith
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Post by ditsy on Nov 6, 2016 17:06:55 GMT
Same old same old
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Post by Rob Scott on Nov 6, 2016 17:15:06 GMT
I think we're trying really hard which just makes it more worrying.
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Bolts
Pat Casey
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Post by Bolts on Nov 6, 2016 17:17:01 GMT
Just a lack of quality, poor decisions and poor awareness from what I can tell
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Post by sevcik on Nov 6, 2016 17:17:08 GMT
Neil Black is here tonight so at least he is witnessing how poor we are first hand. At least one fellow fan has already had a chat with him..... We surely cannot go on in the same vein, though wouldnt surprise me at all if we did.....
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Post by ted logan on Nov 6, 2016 17:34:00 GMT
The silence from the fans at the end of the second period was deafening.
I've heard we've got a big stay at home dman lined up which is good but it won't solve the goalscoring problem. Need 2 goals in the 3rd just to get to OT and I just can't see where they're going to come from?
The body language from CN doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Stood behind the bench motionless with his hands in his pockets most of the time. Carefree almost. Baffling.
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Post by sevcik on Nov 6, 2016 18:16:54 GMT
As I and certain others said during the summer months this team appeared to be light on offence and so its proving to be. Having said that Neilson has made it even harder for himself by trying to base the forward Lines around Chris Lawrence... That was never going to be a good idea with the baggage he brings. Sheffield and even Coventry worked that out last season Even when Lawrence doesnt play we still suffer the effects of that 'plan'....
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dp
Jim Keyes
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Post by dp on Nov 6, 2016 18:30:13 GMT
Has anybody any idea how long it is since we lost 5 in a row? I've been following since 2001, when we were REALLY rubbish, but I can't remember ever losing 5 in a row.
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Post by dill1015 on Nov 6, 2016 18:30:42 GMT
I think changes are inevitable now. 5 league losses on the bounce. 2 zero point weekends in a row. Something has to be done to stop the rot. We're carrying passengers and they need to go.
We are constantly giving ourselves an uphill battle with our total inability to take a lead. We're a team that has clearly spent a lot on defense. If you are always chasing goals then you're going to run into trouble.
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Post by dill1015 on Nov 6, 2016 18:32:01 GMT
Has anybody any idea how long it is since we lost 5 in a row? I've been following since 2001, when we were REALLY rubbish, but I can't remember ever losing 5 in a row. Last christmas maybe? I remember we had a pretty dire run. But im not sure if there were that many in a row.
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Post by wgray on Nov 6, 2016 18:45:06 GMT
Changes are inbound hopefully, to be fair i thought Nikiforuk and Carter played well together tonight, but will it develop? I thought Kalus offered nothing tonight, Lacho the same, which ultimately led to McGrattan offering nothing being on the same line as them. I don't know what to suggest, replace Lacho with Davies? Get a replacement spare for Kalus whilst Schultz and Lawrence are still injured? It's a real poo show at the minute, glad I'm not going in Friday
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Post by shaun30 on Nov 6, 2016 18:55:50 GMT
We have a lot of huffers and puffers , but very little quality and that was clearly evident tonight.
Square pegs round holes call it what you want.
TBH tonight could have been really messy as Belfast were walking round us at times in the first 2 periods they had a lot of chances.
We had a lot of pp but again no offensive threat. The one thing I would say is that they battled in the 3rd and if we did manage to get it back or at least win it could have been classed as battling performance but alas not to be.
The team is totally out of sync and we are desperate for a playmaker/out and out scorer.
Yes we are 2 stars out but there should be enough to compensate
It will turn around as it has got to, however till then I think we could be whipping boys!!
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Nov 6, 2016 18:57:19 GMT
Different week/season, same poo poo.
Few points to reflect on:
We can't clear our zone, Giants had one guy clear his zone with no stick, several kicks of the puck and at least 3 Panthers on his back.
Matt Carter made a pass and got an assist. Can't quite believe it myself. Aside from that he must have something on Corey to still be icing. He makes Lacho look like a power-forward... if we could get a bag of pucks for him, we'd be screwing someone over.
Pull the keeper, didn't see who it was but the first thing we did was dump the puck and forget to chase. Classic Neilson tactic well executed.
Sertich wheeling round & round at the end in our zone, with 30secs to go, tried a pass but I don't think it made 15 metres. Plenty of people seemed to think he was fouled... no-one can argue Giants didn't deserve to score of his 'defending'.
Petr Kalus. Bit of a chocolate teapot tonight. Hasn't this run coincided with his arrival?
Logan MacMillan. Proved he can't attack this season, tonight he proved he can't defend either. Giants first PP made him look like a deer caught in the headlights.
Corey. Warning signs have been there for weeks now. No action, same excuses. The last league win was October 9th... Nearly a month ago. Plenty of us have seen the rot begin but the coach who gets paid can't see it.
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iginla
Chick Zamick
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Post by iginla on Nov 6, 2016 19:45:45 GMT
This team works hard.....BUT THEY JUST ARENT GOOD ENOUGH by a long way.
The D is decent but too attacking,but the forwards are just totally and utterly toothless in front of goal,we are seriously lacking in skill and goal scoring !
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Yotes
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Post by Yotes on Nov 6, 2016 19:55:54 GMT
I think we're trying really hard which just makes it more worrying. Agree with this. Lots of try, but little to no quality. Belfast, with the greatest of respect to them, aren't much use this season. We also got a ton of powerplay today. They're just not good enough. Blacky may, as usual, throw more money at it. But it'd be nice if Neilson and his many assistants could put together a roster who don't need replacements parachuting in to save the day for once. 2 year flipping contract...
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Post by panthers4ever on Nov 6, 2016 19:56:55 GMT
Just a lack of quality, poor decisions and poor awareness from what I can tell Bullseye spot on
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Post by fishman on Nov 6, 2016 20:07:52 GMT
Panthers are down 3 of the teams best players, 1 from 7 PP not good enough, lord help them in Denmark. The game tonight, 2 very average side, I think Panthers made Giants look good
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 6, 2016 20:13:56 GMT
Did Brown pick up an injury too? Don't remember seeing him in the 3rd.
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Post by gisland126 on Nov 6, 2016 20:31:34 GMT
Panthers are down 3 of the teams best players, 1 from 7 PP not good enough, lord help them in Denmark. The game tonight, 2 very average side, I think Panthers made Giants look good I think you may be right... Giants are not a good side...At best, mid- lower league. as they have been for a few seasons... No fire, no passion.. God awful enforcer ( Very liberal term ) and a desperate defence ... It does highlight the need for the Panthers Org. to step back and re assess.... Looking at these 2 teams compete on the ice then compare them with Sheffield and Cardiff... Day and night.. Quite a sad decline for both clubs..
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wilx
Pat Casey
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Post by wilx on Nov 6, 2016 20:32:36 GMT
Been saying it for 3 seasons now, it is the coaching staff that is the problem. We should have got rid if Cory and hangers on a few seasons a go no plan B, no plan A and anyone who has played hockey will know you need to know your line mates and their habits not change it every shift. We will never Ever win the league with Neilson, he has to go and the sooner Neil Black realises this the sooner we can get down to team hockey rather than a team of individuals. I am so glad the 50-50 win last season has paid for my season ticket and if Neilson is still here next season I think the X-factor on a Saturday night would be more exciting than Unsexy Neilson hockey
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Post by gisland126 on Nov 6, 2016 20:35:05 GMT
Panthers are down 3 of the teams best players, 1 from 7 PP not good enough, lord help them in Denmark. The game tonight, 2 very average side, I think Panthers made Giants look good I think you may be right... Giants are not a good side...At best, mid- lower league. as they have been for a few seasons... No fire, no passion.. God awful enforcer ( Very liberal term ) and a desperate defence ... It does highlight the need for the Panthers Org. to step back and re assess.... Looking at these 2 teams compete on the ice then compare them with Sheffield and Cardiff... Day and night.. Quite a sad decline for both clubs.. LOL..And with the ink on the above not yet dried, Sheffield are getting beat 4 -0 and Cardiff are getting beat 2-0.... Ass, bite and back spring to mind !
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 6, 2016 20:41:14 GMT
I think you may be right... Giants are not a good side...At best, mid- lower league. as they have been for a few seasons... No fire, no passion.. God awful enforcer ( Very liberal term ) and a desperate defence ... It does highlight the need for the Panthers Org. to step back and re assess.... Looking at these 2 teams compete on the ice then compare them with Sheffield and Cardiff... Day and night.. Quite a sad decline for both clubs.. LOL..And with the ink on the above not yet dried, Sheffield are getting beat 4 -0 and Cardiff are getting beat 2-0.... Ass, bite and back spring to mind ! Every team will get beaten this season. It's the 5 in a row (so far) that's the clever part
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 6, 2016 20:43:54 GMT
Been saying it for 3 seasons now, it is the coaching staff that is the problem. We should have got rid if Cory and hangers on a few seasons a go no plan B, no plan A and anyone who has played hockey will know you need to know your line mates and their habits not change it every shift. We will never Ever win the league with Neilson, he has to go and the sooner Neil Black realises this the sooner we can get down to team hockey rather than a team of individuals. I am so glad the 50-50 win last season has paid for my season ticket and if Neilson is still here next season I think the X-factor on a Saturday night would be more exciting than Unsexy Neilson hockey Really is astonishing how we gave him a 2 year contract on the back of the last 2 seasons. Can't see Mr Black backing out of the 2 year deal to sack him before next season. If he had success at the centre of his decision making no way would he have given him the 2 year deal in the first place.
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mmmbop
Simon Hunt
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Post by mmmbop on Nov 6, 2016 20:46:12 GMT
I'm still waiting for the 'fireworks' and the 'high octane'
Turn it in... this sides a joke
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Yotes
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Post by Yotes on Nov 6, 2016 20:50:08 GMT
Every team will get beaten this season. It's the 5 in a row (so far) that's the clever part Quite. Cardiff are playing their 3rd in 3 nights against a decent Fife side (who themselves will now go above us).
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Post by panthers4ever on Nov 6, 2016 20:57:57 GMT
Carter brown and sprang go home don't cut it for me
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