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Post by jdizpt8 on Nov 5, 2016 22:31:42 GMT
Corey Rick and Clarke. Too many cooks maybe? If this form carries on I'd let Corey and Rick go and see what Clarke can do riding solo. What have we got to lose?
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Post by iginla on Nov 5, 2016 22:43:27 GMT
Have a listen to that radio interview with Corey from Manchester. Bloody pathetic,we've just lost four in a row and he hardly sounds bothered,never mind angry. He should be blowing his top.
And another thing. Can we please have an interview with him.....that doesn't sound like he's eating his bloody dinner whilst recording it !!!!!!!!
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Post by jdizpt8 on Nov 5, 2016 22:47:08 GMT
I can't listen to him, that noise he makes when he breathes makes me feel sick
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Post by iginla on Nov 5, 2016 23:04:08 GMT
Neilson's biggest fault is he consistently signs teams lacking balance. This season is just the same, too many players of one type whilst lacking in other areas. Square pegs in round holes and we are being found out. What happens in the next couple of weeks could define our season as regards the league title. History is not on our side. I agree. It won't get any easier with the next round of the continental cup looming either,then IF we get through again another three games will get added to the schedule too. If we were really serious about the league this year,we should have turned that competition down,but of course we know Europe always comes second only to money in our owners thinking. This weekend is a crucial one,or even this early in the season we could very soon find ourselves ten points behind the Devils ! Still,at least they've got another ready made excuse if we lose again next weekend......the midweek GB game mucked up our preparation !!!! I wonder how many points we are behind the Devils after tonight ! Damn that GB game.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Nov 6, 2016 0:11:46 GMT
See what Belfast brings tomorrow but Corey seems devoid of ideas and inspiration. He's had a week to see the rot take hold and fix it, he did nothing.
The whole organisation has the tools and funds to succeed but somehow make themselves look like fools:
From a coach who struggles with recruitment and his tactics. A GM that tries his best to ignore fans. Social media and Digital Marketing team that make a hash of most (if not all) their output. A bear that introduces the players to the ice. I could go on... and on... and on.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 6, 2016 0:20:44 GMT
See what Belfast brings tomorrow but Corey seems devoid of ideas and inspiration. He's had a week to see the rot take hold and fix it, he did nothing. The whole organisation has the tools and funds to succeed but somehow make themselves look like fools: From a coach who struggles with recruitment and his tactics. A GM that tries his best to ignore fans. Social media and Digital Marketing team that make a hash of most (if not all) their output. A bear that introduces the players to the ice. I could go on... and on... and on. Just about 100% spot on there except the bear should be a donkey
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Post by wgray on Nov 6, 2016 0:34:19 GMT
Alarm bells should be ringing in Corey's, GM's and NB's heads, how long are Schultz and Lawrence going to be out for? We can't continue like this because with the current team we have available I cant see how the results aren't going to improve! The amount of injuries that we consistently sustain EVERY season is ridiculous and bewildering, it can't be bad fortune surely? Arghhhh!!!! This club is sending me mad!
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 6, 2016 1:09:12 GMT
No, no.... I think we are going to be ok after all... Phew! That's a relief!
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Post by Mark on Nov 6, 2016 5:44:56 GMT
I'd forgot about the bloody bear.
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Post by nate24 on Nov 6, 2016 8:22:13 GMT
No, no.... I think we are going to be ok after all... Phew! That's a relief! Smart move stocking it with dollars too!!
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Post by tootootrain on Nov 6, 2016 19:32:41 GMT
I'd forgot about the bloody bear. Pit bull having a crap surely?
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Post by bigbblk13 on Nov 7, 2016 14:06:56 GMT
And we sign a big defence man and gas a forward. Makes a lot of sense when we ain't scoring or even getting shots on goal. I repeat my previous comment, sack two forwards who can't score in an empty net and bring in two who can. Don't care who they gas as there are lots of choice.
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Post by iginla on Nov 7, 2016 17:01:12 GMT
It amazes me how an ex Dman seemingly has no idea how to build a defence.........Why on earth does Corey always get it wrong ?
It should be three pairs. Each pair being one hard hitting stay home guy and one offence minded guy. Only once have we have had that combination and look what happened.....we won the grand slam !
Suddenly now,they see what the fans have been saying for two months and sign a big stay home guy.
Is it really that hard to build a defence !!!
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Post by Yotes on Nov 7, 2016 17:10:54 GMT
Didn't you like our defence in the off season? I seem to remember you waxing lyrical (as far as you do that) about Andy Sertich.
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Post by iginla on Nov 7, 2016 17:29:37 GMT
Didn't you like our defence in the off season? I seem to remember you waxing lyrical (as far as you do that) about Andy Sertich. I do like the individual players on our defence,but I've said many times it's not built right. With what we have now,we still need another big stay home,or tell Waugh not to cross the red line and start hitting more. It's not the D that's our major problem though,it's the forwards. Look at how the grand slam D was built. Lepine,Becket,Lee.....3 stay home tough/hitters Werner,Weaver,Fox.....3 skilled skaters It really shouldn't be hard to build should it
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Post by Yotes on Nov 7, 2016 17:48:16 GMT
Well, it is quite hard to get a British defenceman of Jon Weaver's ability (especially when you've mugged off a decent young prospect the season before). And Steve Lee isn't the same player he was back then, and frankly I doubt he'll ever be again.
I see the logic in what you're saying, but I think you're overstating the ease of it all. I'd say it is pretty hard to get a group like those 5 (the actual defensemen) tbh.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 7, 2016 17:52:36 GMT
Our D at the beginning of the season was excellent but now all of a sudden they are all in the offensive half getting continually caught. Personally I think the pressure of not scoring is the problem and the entire team is piling up the ice way too far. Our D is night and day different to the beginning of September. Our top point scorer is Dimmen?
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Post by iginla on Nov 7, 2016 18:20:59 GMT
Well, it is quite hard to get a British defenceman of Jon Weaver's ability (especially when you've mugged off a decent young prospect the season before). And Steve Lee isn't the same player he was back then, and frankly I doubt he'll ever be again. I see the logic in what you're saying, but I think you're overstating the ease of it all. I'd say it is pretty hard to get a group like those 5 (the actual defensemen) tbh. Don't forget back then we only had ten imports (or 11 can't remember). You now have 14 imports,so with 5 import D plus Lee it should be easy enough to build that D again. Yes Weaver was a great player,but basically you replace him with an import. Even with 5 import D,you would still have an import goalie and 8 import forwards. That is not difficult to replicate,or it shouldn't be.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 7, 2016 18:28:33 GMT
You still have to hope you get what you think you're getting. Has Sertich, for example, provided the sort of offensive ability many thought he would when he signed?
Again, I don't think it's unreasonable logic or anything, but you still need a bit of luck (especially with a non-existent scouting network).
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Post by iginla on Nov 7, 2016 18:42:53 GMT
You still have to hope you get what you think you're getting. Has Sertich, for example, provided the sort of offensive ability many thought he would when he signed? Again, I don't think it's unreasonable logic or anything, but you still need a bit of luck (especially with a non-existent scouting network). Of course you need a bit of luck with how they turn out and yes Sertich points wise has been a little bit disappointing. But,as great as he was,you wouldn't sign a defence consisting of five Eric Werners would you,because that's virtually what Corey has done this season. I think the problem with our team is that because the forwards aren't skilled enough to create much,the Dmen are trying to do it for them. That leaves holes at the back and we keep getting caught.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2016 18:57:41 GMT
To put it politely . Sertich has been poor. He'd be the d man to go
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Post by Mark on Nov 7, 2016 19:12:57 GMT
Our D at the beginning of the season was excellent but now all of a sudden they are all in the offensive half getting continually caught. Personally I think the pressure of not scoring is the problem and the entire team is piling up the ice way too far. Our D is night and day different to the beginning of September. Our top point scorer is Dimmen? Quite possibly the most pertinent point on this thread. If Neilson isn't thinking of gassing at least one forward his head is in the clouds.
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Post by mansfieldpanther91 on Nov 7, 2016 20:46:43 GMT
I know we've got two top forwards injured bur even still he needs to give lines time to gel, they don't even stay consistent from one shift to another let alone a few games, how are these players expected to produce when they don't get the time to gel with their line mates? corey talks about players getting desperate and making mistakes, I think it's him getting desperate too trying too hard to get a line that clicks
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 7, 2016 21:16:03 GMT
Our D at the beginning of the season was excellent but now all of a sudden they are all in the offensive half getting continually caught. Personally I think the pressure of not scoring is the problem and the entire team is piling up the ice way too tfar. Our D is night and day different to the beginning of September. Our top point scorer is Dimmen? Spot on. Individually the Dmen are all good. As a team we demonstrated we have great defense. This issue is we are trying too hard the other end to find goals so as a team we are too high and getting caught out. The 2 0 Cardiff result was a sign of how this team is built. I think with Lawerence and Schultz in the line up we know we have the ability to get the 2 or 3 goals needed to win tight ones. Without them we have to go chasing.
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 7, 2016 21:21:05 GMT
I know we've got two top forwards injured bur even still he needs to give lines time to gel, they don't even stay consistent from one shift to another let alone a few games, how are these players expected to produce when they don't get the time to gel with their line mates? corey talks about players getting desperate and making mistakes, I think it's him getting desperate too trying too hard to get a line that clicks Largely right. However I don't think he is trying hard at all to find a line that clicks. I think after the last few seasons it's clear it is a tactic he choses to use. One that doesn't work mind. Look at when things have worked at times. Back end of last season the grind line got together, Moran and Mosey together and we picked up a couple of trophies. The start of the season Farmer, Clarke and Lawerence together consistently and they were fantastic. Obviously we know why this line currently isn't together, however it doesn't mean you can't allow at the least one line to play together for a few games in a row.
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