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Post by The Flying Shirt on Sept 17, 2016 21:35:27 GMT
Bordeleau looks a HUGE downgrade on Hendrix That could be the worst insult ever thrown at Bordeleau in his entire career! Savage. No wonder Hendrix took Lord apart then spat down his neck. Bordeleau just looks like a penelty box warmer and a one trick pony.
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Post by Bagheera on Sept 17, 2016 21:36:58 GMT
I think there will be some unhappy people very soon. I don't think we played badly at all. I think we nailed Plan A. And I also think it may be an insight into what to expect this season. we chose to play a road game and from that perspective we played it to a T.
I don't particularly want to watch it week in week out, but I'll take the 2 points any day over Sexy Neilson Hockey that doesn't consistantly deliver results.
Hey, it's game 1 of our home league campaign and I may be wrong, but I see a Ben Simon type season coming. Winning games with defence and lots of unhappy fans.
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Post by John Casey on Sept 17, 2016 21:37:42 GMT
Well that was bizarre, normally getting a shutout against Cardiff is something to be proud of and be celebrated. However after watching the game you gotta say that we certainly got away with one here.
Play like his against Sheffield, we will get well beaten.
They have got to be able to clear the puck out of our zone. I was also impressed with Lindhagan. I am also wondering whether they should look for a Forward loan player (a la Packl)
They say you would rather win but play rubbish than lose but play well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 21:41:50 GMT
Wow all that money thrown at that set of forwards just to get shut out !! ... I'd be furious if I was Cardiffs owner!! They had 3 more import out skaters too.. that Bordeleau was as much use as a chocolate teapot!
They had their big chance to take runs at us and send messages... they won't get that chance again!!
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Post by Yotes on Sept 17, 2016 21:45:52 GMT
Wiikman played well, but he's going to need a strong back if that's the idea for the rest of the season. We'll see.
Good points though.
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Post by ted logan on Sept 17, 2016 21:47:34 GMT
Can't complain at the shutout and the 2 points in both competitions.
Wiikman was superb and the D deserve plaudits too. To add my two penneth to the Spang debate - quality. One of those players who looks as though he has oodles of time on the puck. Will be an excellent addition I'm sure. Like the look of Sertich too.
Forwards are definitely a work in progress but its very early days. Even the grand slam guys didn't fire right from the off. All we can hope is that CN finds 3 lines that click and then sticks with them.
Darnell had his usual attention seeking first period but was OK after that. He's a good ref, just needs to realise that we haven't turned up to see him.
Decent night. Even the beer seemed better!
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Sept 17, 2016 21:50:40 GMT
All we can hope is that CN finds 3 lines that click He will at some point once in every game we play this season just before changing it again.
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Post by Mark on Sept 17, 2016 21:54:50 GMT
Wonderful result. Glorious, heroic, frustrating, horrendous. Nailed it.
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Post by Shaggy on Sept 17, 2016 22:03:46 GMT
Not the kind of game I was expecting, but what the hell... a win is a win is a win.
Cardiff look like a very dangerous team this season - although I agree with what others have said, Bordeleau looked like a totally pointless waste of a roster slot - so shutting them out is no mean feat. The defensive unit as a whole played very well... Wiikman on his own wouldn't have won it, the blueliners on their own wouldn't have won it... the two working well together - that's the ticket. Up the other end wasn't quite so exciting, but Cardiff are always strong defensively so I very rarely expect us to rack up much of a score against them. We are definitely missing Schultz... but for a tough early-season game, that was enough. Thought Farmer and Nikiforuk looked like the best forward performances, but there wasn't anyone that I would have said was definitely 'bad'.
Did anyone else think Clarke looked somewhat surprised to be gifted with a breakaway on the empty net like that? For a second I thought he was so surprised that he would hesitate and fluff it, but... no, he's too good a player for that. Would have done my heartrate a bit of good if we'd got the insurance goal earlier than that, but hey ho - that's life!
Bit of class from the Panthers to welcome Matt Myers back like that... nice one.
I wouldn't like to see us rack up that kind of shot count very often, but shots ON goal are far less important than shots IN goal... and we won out on the latter, so no harm no foul.
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Post by Pies on Sept 17, 2016 22:08:35 GMT
One of the oddest games I can remember watching under Neilson. But like the end of last season, we are playing to our strength which is the defence and goalie. You work hard in your own end of the ice, you can get rewarded like we did tonight. It's early days in the season but who cares how we win, as long as we do win!
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Post by yeti on Sept 17, 2016 22:35:20 GMT
That was a frustrating game to watch but I don't think we robbed Cardiff. We played a perfect defensive game. Milkman was good but the defence mainly kept Cardiff to the outside. The forwards didn't create much but the defensive game plan started with them. No end of times they dropped back to defend instead of attacking. Highlighted by Charlie dropping back on one shift where he could rssily
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Post by yeti on Sept 17, 2016 22:43:35 GMT
Sorry guys, posted before I finished typing. Meant to say that Clarkie choose not to go into his usual shooting lane but dropped back into a defensive position instead. So it was definitely game plan carried out perfectly and not daylight robbery. Whilst great to see it executed so well not sure I want to see it every week.
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Post by iginla on Sept 17, 2016 22:45:18 GMT
While I'm obviously pleased with the win and shut out....is that what we're going to have to watch this season at home,we played a road game at home!? We have a lot of gritty hard worker type of players but there didn't seem that one player who will make something out of nothing. Yes the D looked very solid and our penalty kill was good but going forward we didn't really create anything apart from the goal. Getting so heavily outshot at home cannot be the way forward we need to generate so much more offence! I worry if plan A (don't let the opposition score) fails can we create the chances to get back in the game? Spot on Higgy. That's exactly what we've got. A bunch of hard workers who will struggle to create and struggle to score enough. Tonight just confirmed what I've thought since we signed them....god help us if Wiikman gets injured again !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 22:50:42 GMT
Wiikman didn't make any world class saves... he Didn't have to. Devils were just clueless in the last third.
Obviously not many in here sure Blazers steelers teams play... got outshot regularly but didn't lose much
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Post by DPG on Sept 17, 2016 22:57:43 GMT
Elephant in the room! That was a defensive master class.
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Post by pantherman66 on Sept 17, 2016 23:13:36 GMT
Panthers fans complaining after a win, who would have thought it. People complaining about Corey changing the lines around, should have listened to his post game interview, explaining why he had to do this, before slagging him off. He said certain players were not playing well enough so the players seeing more ice time, were too tired in the end to do their job properly. Also, 'conceited, arrogant Corey', openly said it was his bad leadership, that didn't change his systems early enough in the game. As for the game, although Cardiff dominated territorially, Wiikmaan did not have to make too many outstanding saves, and the defence as a unit looked impressive to me. As for the win being 'daylight robbery', it is my opinion that if you have so much possession and territorial advantage, and still cannot score, then you don't deserve to win. Surely we warrant a lot of credit for scoring from so few chances.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 23:25:26 GMT
Panthers fans complaining after a win, who would have thought it. People complaining about Corey changing the lines around, should have listened to his post game interview, explaining why he had to do this, before slagging him off. He said certain players were not playing well enough so the players seeing more ice time, were too tired in the end to do their job properly. Also, 'conceited, arrogant Corey', openly said it was his bad leadership, that didn't change his systems early enough in the game. As for the game, although Cardiff dominated territorially, Wiikmaan did not have to make too many outstanding saves, and the defence as a unit looked impressive to me. As for the win being 'daylight robbery', it is my opinion that if you have so much possession and territorial advantage, and still cannot score, then you don't deserve to win. Surely we warrant a lot of credit for scoring from so few chances. Finally a sensible post
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Post by iginla on Sept 17, 2016 23:30:39 GMT
Panthers fans complaining after a win, who would have thought it. People complaining about Corey changing the lines around, should have listened to his post game interview, explaining why he had to do this, before slagging him off. He said certain players were not playing well enough so the players seeing more ice time, were too tired in the end to do their job properly. Also, 'conceited, arrogant Corey', openly said it was his bad leadership, that didn't change his systems early enough in the game. As for the game, although Cardiff dominated territorially, Wiikmaan did not have to make too many outstanding saves, and the defence as a unit looked impressive to me. As for the win being 'daylight robbery', it is my opinion that if you have so much possession and territorial advantage, and still cannot score, then you don't deserve to win. Surely we warrant a lot of credit for scoring from so few chances. Well he couldn't use "bus legs" or tiredness as an excuse could he ? And did you see the game plan change,I didn't,we played complete defence all game long. Why on earth would you play that defensive in a home game,especially the season opener. It says to me either....he's worried about Cardiffs offence,or he's realised he's messed up and in some players he hasn't got what he thought he was getting.
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Post by pantherman66 on Sept 18, 2016 0:17:02 GMT
Priceless iginla, the game plan obviously did change because our coach said it did. You, among others have called Corey, arrogant in the past but you take arrogant to another level, just because you don't know enough about hockey to see a game plan change from A to B, doesn't mean it didn't happen. You have also stated that you really do want Panthers to do well, even though you are so negative towards them, but tonight I think proves otherwise. Maybe he was worried about Cardiff's attack, but he came up with a system/systems to combat it and won the game, give the guy some credit.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Sept 18, 2016 3:09:22 GMT
How is there do much negativity after a win? Give me that performance every week because it clearly worked, we poo poo down a very offensive minded team who many have tipped for the league title, to be honest they didn't look like scoring on any of their shots. We had Lawrence with a peach of a goal some great forechecking and made life hard for Cardiff. Nikiforuk I thought had a good game, not the game I expected from him as he's billed as a goal scorer but when he's back checking and stripping guys of the puck that's fine by me and then he ripped one off the bar. Once he gets one he'll get plenty. Great win, fully deserved and a well executed game plan.
Let's be positive for once about our team!!
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Post by jdizpt8 on Sept 18, 2016 3:12:50 GMT
How is there do much negativity after a win? Give me that performance every week because it clearly worked, we shut down a very offensive minded team who many have tipped for the league title, to be honest they didn't look like scoring on any of their shots. We had Lawrence with a peach of a goal some great forechecking and made life hard for Cardiff. Nikiforuk I thought had a good game, not the game I expected from him as he's billed as a goal scorer but when he's back checking and stripping guys of the puck that's fine by me and then he ripped one off the bar. Once he gets one he'll get plenty. Great win, fully deserved and a well executed game plan. Let's be positive for once about our team!!
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Post by titch on Sept 18, 2016 5:24:10 GMT
Intro atmosphere was brilliant, actually felt like the fans were intimidating the other team for once, lots of banging/clapping and singing throughout the intro, not so much during the game though.
Wasn't the best performance from the Panthers but regardless of performance, it's the team who skate away with the 2/4 points that we should care about, fortunately, that was us. I do believe we have far too many technical players in our team and it's going to take a player like McGrattan to hold the puck and allow players like Carter & Nikiforuk to find space to be able to do what they do. Last season, this would have been a game we would be skating away with 0 points. I think any Panthers fan would have happily took 6 points from the first 4 league games of the season considering three of those were in Scotland! Of all teams to lose to, I'm glad we lost against Fife because I don't see them being a rival at the end of the season.
Feel free to be negative when we're 10 points behind the leaders and sitting in 5th place at the end of the season but don't be negative when we've ground out a game that should have been a loss but wasn't.
Sheffield are looking strong in the CC, heres to hoping we can take them down a peg or two tonight! I've got a feeling that not having a player like Cam or Brian at Sheffield could be our downfall!
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Post by Shaggy on Sept 18, 2016 6:19:30 GMT
Panthers fans complaining after a win, who would have thought it. People complaining about Corey changing the lines around, should have listened to his post game interview, explaining why he had to do this, before slagging him off. He said certain players were not playing well enough so the players seeing more ice time, were too tired in the end to do their job properly. Also, 'conceited, arrogant Corey', openly said it was his bad leadership, that didn't change his systems early enough in the game. As for the game, although Cardiff dominated territorially, Wiikmaan did not have to make too many outstanding saves, and the defence as a unit looked impressive to me. As for the win being 'daylight robbery', it is my opinion that if you have so much possession and territorial advantage, and still cannot score, then you don't deserve to win. Surely we warrant a lot of credit for scoring from so few chances. Well he couldn't use "bus legs" or tiredness as an excuse could he ? And did you see the game plan change,I didn't,we played complete defence all game long. Why on earth would you play that defensive in a home game,especially the season opener. It says to me either....he's worried about Cardiffs offence,or he's realised he's messed up and in some players he hasn't got what he thought he was getting. Why would Corey need an excuse? - we won! We played largely a defensive game throughout, but less so in the first period I thought. And if any coach doesn't have concerns about the opposition offence, then he's not doing his job properly - it was obvious that Cardiff weren't going to be pushovers, so he put the appropriate measures into place. And it worked... 2-0 win, 2 points, job done, no problem.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Sept 18, 2016 8:11:13 GMT
Cardiff have been hailed as the team to beat this season and are allegedly favourites to win the league - on last nights display, I doubt it - as mentioned we played a "road game" but it was a winning game - in order to win games we need to adapt to how the opposition plays - some on here complain that we only have "plan A" - others just complain - first home game of the season and we win, what is there to complain about, when we get to full strength and fitness we can start to get settled lines, after all they have only been together for a couple of weeks - personally I am just glad the season has started again, may change my mind later but as long as we keep winning I will be reasonably happy, and so far since Cory took over I have never seen a truly negative team, so some good games to come (I hope)
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Post by polly on Sept 18, 2016 8:22:14 GMT
Panthers fans complaining after a win, who would have thought it. People complaining about Corey changing the lines around, should have listened to his post game interview, explaining why he had to do this, before slagging him off. He said certain players were not playing well enough so the players seeing more ice time, were too tired in the end to do their job properly. Also, 'conceited, arrogant Corey', openly said it was his bad leadership, that didn't change his systems early enough in the game. As for the game, although Cardiff dominated territorially, Wiikmaan did not have to make too many outstanding saves, and the defence as a unit looked impressive to me. As for the win being 'daylight robbery', it is my opinion that if you have so much possession and territorial advantage, and still cannot score, then you don't deserve to win. Surely we warrant a lot of credit for scoring from so few chances. Finally a sensible post Agreed. I can't believe what I'm reading on this forum! Panthers won, kept a clean sheet against one of their biggest rivals and played as a team. Another two points in the bag towards our campaign to win the league. Those that are posting such negativity about the team and Corey should be ashamed of themselves.
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