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Post by iginla on Sept 10, 2016 22:31:35 GMT
Cracking result - arguably the toughest game of the weekend, but a solid victory - well done Panthers! 4 points makes this weekend a success in my book... if we can get more tomorrow, that would be a fantastic bonus. That's very much my opinion. 3-0 would be a fantastic way to open the league campaign but I looked at the fixtures & honestly would have been happy with four points. I'm being greedy now & want all six. Remember though you normally need at least 0.7 to 0.8 hockey to win the league. 4 points from 6 only represents 0.66 hockey,so if your'e happy with that against Scottish opposition you're going to have to be pretty damn good against the big boys !
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Post by iginla on Sept 10, 2016 22:33:51 GMT
Should we be concerned about the fitness of Shultz? Big injury lay of last season, injured already this season. We've not been told what kind of injury is it. Would it be worth bringing in some cover do we think? We shouldn't even be thinking about it,we should be doing it !
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Post by wgray on Sept 10, 2016 22:42:15 GMT
Should we be concerned about the fitness of Shultz? Big injury lay of last season, injured already this season. We've not been told what kind of injury is it. Would it be worth bringing in some cover do we think? We shouldn't even be thinking about it,we should be doing it ! Lindhagen can cover for him and let Oakford have a full time spot
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Post by John Casey on Sept 10, 2016 22:48:06 GMT
They say you can't win the League at this stage but results like this certainly helps. As long as we are not thrashed tomorrow, I'll still be happy with the weekend.
One question, do other teams have triple headers in Scotland or is it just the Panthers?
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Post by shinobi on Sept 10, 2016 22:51:46 GMT
That's very much my opinion. 3-0 would be a fantastic way to open the league campaign but I looked at the fixtures & honestly would have been happy with four points. I'm being greedy now & want all six. Remember though you normally need at least 0.7 to 0.8 hockey to win the league. 4 points from 6 only represents 0.66 hockey,so if your'e happy with that against Scottish opposition you're going to have to be pretty damn good against the big boys ! Yes, a three game away trip in September at the start of the league campaign is going to determine how the league is won or lost.
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Post by EMB on Sept 10, 2016 23:08:07 GMT
Should we be concerned about the fitness of Shultz? Big injury lay of last season, injured already this season. We've not been told what kind of injury is it. Would it be worth bringing in some cover do we think? Doesn't help when the opposition specifically target his knees, we thought from the stands that a penalty should have been called for that but nothing given.
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Post by iginla on Sept 10, 2016 23:10:05 GMT
Remember though you normally need at least 0.7 to 0.8 hockey to win the league. 4 points from 6 only represents 0.66 hockey,so if your'e happy with that against Scottish opposition you're going to have to be pretty damn good against the big boys ! Yes, a three game away trip in September at the start of the league campaign is going to determine how the league is won or lost. That's a daft statement. Every game at any stage of the season,whoever it is against is equally important....they are all worth the same two points.
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Post by Ghost on Sept 10, 2016 23:19:22 GMT
Yes, a three game away trip in September at the start of the league campaign is going to determine how the league is won or lost. That's a daft statement. Every game at any stage of the season,whoever it is against is equally important....they are all worth the same two points. Not sure I or anyone else can believe it.. But I agree with iginla.... Good lord
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Post by iginla on Sept 10, 2016 23:32:04 GMT
I can't.....but I like it ! Lol
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Post by shinobi on Sept 11, 2016 0:40:42 GMT
Yes, a three game away trip in September at the start of the league campaign is going to determine how the league is won or lost. That's a daft statement. Every game at any stage of the season,whoever it is against is equally important....they are all worth the same two points. I didn't say points aren't important, of course they are & anyone who argues to the contrary is a fool, but that wasn't my point. You're talking about win percentages determining a league championship after the first three games of league play. I don't agree at all as things can change very quickly due to loss of form, injuries & suspensions. Of course it'll be great to start 3-0 but I don't agree it'll determine where that title goes.
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Post by titch on Sept 11, 2016 5:24:47 GMT
That's very much my opinion. 3-0 would be a fantastic way to open the league campaign but I looked at the fixtures & honestly would have been happy with four points. I'm being greedy now & want all six. Remember though you normally need at least 0.7 to 0.8 hockey to win the league. 4 points from 6 only represents 0.66 hockey,so if your'e happy with that against Scottish opposition you're going to have to be pretty damn good against the big boys ! 'big boys' I would say away fixtures in Scotland will be some of the hardest games we play, if not for the travel alone. I just hope the boys don't think they've done enough by hitting their (not so public) target of 4 points from this weekend and want to surpass it. Obviously, as suggested, top teams are not putting their full effort into the CC games (the league should really be looking to change the poo poo format of this cup) and today games will give more of an indication on how good Blaze, Devils & Giants are. I also fully believe that an away fixture against Fife could be one of the hardest games of the season, I'd be very happy if we walked away with 1 point but amazed if we could pull off the win. Wiikman has been incredible so far and I hope he can get through the season without injury as he could be the entire reason we bring the Elite League title back to Nottingham.
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Post by titch on Sept 11, 2016 5:32:08 GMT
That's a daft statement. Every game at any stage of the season,whoever it is against is equally important....they are all worth the same two points. I didn't say points aren't important, of course they are & anyone who argues to the contrary is a fool, but that wasn't my point. You're talking about win percentages determining a league championship after the first three games of league play. I don't agree at all as things can change very quickly due to loss of form, injuries & suspensions. Of course it'll be great to start 3-0 but I don't agree it'll determine where that title goes. Considering a large chunk of points were lost during the away trips to Scotland last season, you can see why people are excited at the prospect of being 4/5 points clear at the top of the league and at the very best, 10 points above the Yorkshire puddings before they've even started their league campaign! One can dream...
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Post by wagstaff on Sept 11, 2016 7:24:42 GMT
You've taken 4 from 4, from what I saw of Pacl last Sunday he's not the same standard as Wiikman so keep Wiikman in for tonight and make it a 6 from 6 weekend. These are all league points so right from the start you are sitting pretty and the pressure will be on everyone else to catch up, the fact that they will have come from away games is a bonus, after a few more games the likes of Dundee and Fife will be taking points so it will have been a good road trip for you, the biggest worry tonight should be tiredness so an early start to the scoresheet would be better for you Devils lost in the 4/5 stay in cup Blaze and Storm have points but should be scrapping for who doesn't progress so it looks like an ideal start to the year for Panthers!
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Post by endisforever91 on Sept 11, 2016 9:43:20 GMT
They say you can't win the League at this stage but results like this certainly helps. As long as we are not thrashed tomorrow, I'll still be happy with the weekend. One question, do other teams have triple headers in Scotland or is it just the Panthers? Storm have a triple header in January. Braehead, Fife and Edinburgh.
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Post by Shaggy on Sept 11, 2016 10:06:12 GMT
They say you can't win the League at this stage but results like this certainly helps. As long as we are not thrashed tomorrow, I'll still be happy with the weekend. One question, do other teams have triple headers in Scotland or is it just the Panthers? Storm have a triple header in January. Braehead, Fife and Edinburgh. Cardiff have a triple-header up in Scotland at the beginning of November, and Coventry have one mid-November. It's pretty much a league-wide thing...
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Post by iginla on Sept 11, 2016 10:57:46 GMT
Storm have a triple header in January. Braehead, Fife and Edinburgh. Cardiff have a triple-header up in Scotland at the beginning of November, and Coventry have one mid-November. It's pretty much a league-wide thing... Im guessing Sheffield don't have a triple header up north then.......good planning by them,trying to give themselves the best chance ? I dunno,might be though ?
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Post by iginla on Sept 11, 2016 11:03:41 GMT
I didn't say points aren't important, of course they are & anyone who argues to the contrary is a fool, but that wasn't my point. You're talking about win percentages determining a league championship after the first three games of league play. I don't agree at all as things can change very quickly due to loss of form, injuries & suspensions. Of course it'll be great to start 3-0 but I don't agree it'll determine where that title goes. Considering a large chunk of points were lost during the away trips to Scotland last season, you can see why people are excited at the prospect of being 4/5 points clear at the top of the league and at the very best, 10 points above the Yorkshire puddings before they've even started their league campaign! One can dream... You just have to beat the Scottish teams,either that or you've got to have a phenominal record against the big teams. In the grand slam year, I think we won every game against the Scots and Hull and yet still only won the league by 4 points.
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Post by shinobi on Sept 11, 2016 11:31:33 GMT
Considering a large chunk of points were lost during the away trips to Scotland last season, you can see why people are excited at the prospect of being 4/5 points clear at the top of the league and at the very best, 10 points above the Yorkshire puddings before they've even started their league campaign! One can dream... You just have to beat the Scottish teams,either that or you've got to have a phenominal record against the big teams. In the grand slam year, I think we won every game against the Scots and Hull and yet still only won the league by 4 points. If you want to win a league title, you have to consistently beat everyone. I'm not sure where this belief that I'm happy with a so called 66% win ratio against teams north of the border came from, as my post that you resounded too was simply referring to this weekend's fixtures, not through out the season.
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Post by Bagheera on Sept 11, 2016 11:52:14 GMT
The reality is that it's how you fare against the Gardener conference teams that decides how succesful your league campaign is. As stated the year we won it we won every cross conference game IIRC(certainly had no 0 point games). Yet the year we win the conference and not the league we were obviously dog against Gardener teams. You can expect to drop points against all Ernhardt opposition and in reality thats usually what happens. Of course you do have to hold your own in own conference, as less than .500 hockey in it would still mean little to no chance at the league. Very good start and very important wins so far. Another 2 points tonight would be fantastic.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Sept 11, 2016 11:59:47 GMT
Should we be concerned about the fitness of Shultz? Big injury lay of last season, injured already this season. We've not been told what kind of injury is it. Would it be worth bringing in some cover do we think? Schultz was one of the risks this season, he was never quite the same after his injury (this time last year he was reminding me of Billy Ryan) and he's obviously struggling again. Hopefully he'll be OK but, on the flip side, I hope we don't wait too long on him.
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Post by PantherB on Sept 11, 2016 12:49:26 GMT
Schultz just seems to keep getting annoying little knocks which are bad enough to force him to sit for a game but not bad enough to warrant more than physio treatment. He looked amazing in Amiens and i really hope things settle down as he was really looking forward to the season, talking about how good shape he was in, and he proved it in Amiens but gave so much that he just wore his body out.
He'll probably be a scratch tonight, i'd expect anyway, not ideal but Fife coming back from Belfast, they'll have sea and bus legs whilst we'll be tired but on a good roll, Wiikman should start with his form but we could be risking him. Personally i'd split the game, Wiikman for the 1st minimum and Pacl the rest, but obviously it depends on the scoreline.
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Post by pantherdman on Sept 11, 2016 16:47:50 GMT
Couple of great results so far. The aim should be to win every single game. I still hope we bring in some spares, if there is an injury worry this is imperative.
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Post by fishman on Sept 12, 2016 7:55:44 GMT
Very difficult to win 3 in 3 no matter who the teams are, thats not being negative thats being realistic
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Post by iginla on Sept 12, 2016 10:25:16 GMT
Very difficult to win 3 in 3 no matter who the teams are, thats not being negative thats being realistic Highlights Agreed it's very difficult. The simple answer is though,don't give yourselves a 3 in 3 then.....it's bloody obvious !
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Post by Pies on Sept 12, 2016 11:25:31 GMT
Looks a typical Lawrence goal - play it across the crease and let him one time it. 4 points already for him - looks like we're getting the point scoring version this year. Dimmen also looks like he's had a good start to the year
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