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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 2, 2017 12:12:25 GMT
Anything from Panthers management? No, not yet.
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Post by Shorty on Jan 2, 2017 12:22:16 GMT
Why does a club have to acknowledge and attend meetings of a Supporters Trust?
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 2, 2017 12:25:00 GMT
Why does a club have to acknowledge and attend meetings of a Supporters Trust? They don't. Once a Trust is formally set up and running properly they would be obliged to meet at least twice a year. We're obviously hopeful that they will engage with us before we get to that stage. After all it's just fans/ customers wanting to talk to/ work with a club/ business.
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Post by Shorty on Jan 2, 2017 12:33:41 GMT
Why is a club obliged though?
I cannot understand how an organisation that has no official links to another must attend some of their meetings.
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 2, 2017 13:06:44 GMT
Why is a club obliged though? I cannot understand how an organisation that has no official links to another must attend some of their meetings. Come along to the meeting after today's game. The government are giving more and more backing and power to Supporters Trusts. We want to work with them rather than against them so why wouldn't they want to engage with their fans anyway?
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Post by Shorty on Jan 2, 2017 14:48:34 GMT
Cheers. Unfortunately I cannot today.
I have been following the thread with interest though.
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 2, 2017 15:05:03 GMT
Cheers. Unfortunately I cannot today. I have been following the thread with interest though. I'll post the main points from the meeting. I'll be at the game so if you want a quick chat about it during one of the intermissions just let me know.
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Post by iginla on Jan 2, 2017 15:34:12 GMT
Why is a club obliged though? I cannot understand how an organisation that has no official links to another must attend some of their meetings. They should do. But i don't think the club will acknowledge the ST.
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 2, 2017 17:13:22 GMT
Reminder, meeting will take place 30 mins after today's final hooter.
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 2, 2017 20:40:51 GMT
Wow! The meeting couldn't have gone better, great turnout, very positive questions and comments.
A really good base has now been set to allow us to progress and move on to the next stage.
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Post by Caesar on Jan 2, 2017 20:59:48 GMT
Good. I'm glad mate. I really hope this works, so long as everyone is pulling in the same direction then all is good. My biggest fear for this is that if too many people become involved at the start then differences of opinion could derail it. I'd love to get involved with you but I'm not sure what more opinions would add to the melting pot and I hope a more people feel the same. It's your baby, so you run with it Rob. Kudos to you
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Post by DMS on Jan 2, 2017 21:39:23 GMT
Wow! The meeting couldn't have gone better, great turnout, very positive questions and comments. A really good base has now been set to allow us to progress and move on to the next stage. What do you hope the trust will genuinely achieve? I have seen comments that the club must acknowledge the existence of the trust as a legal entity when official and that means meeting a minimum twice per year but in all honesty what do you hope to achieve from the meetings? Just because they are obliged to meet you doesn't mean they are obliged to do anything for/with you. Whilst I wish you all the luck I honestly can't help but feel this is a futile exercise.
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Post by spik on Jan 2, 2017 21:52:00 GMT
Wow! The meeting couldn't have gone better, great turnout, very positive questions and comments. A really good base has now been set to allow us to progress and move on to the next stage. What do you hope the trust will genuinely achieve? I have seen comments that the club must acknowledge the existence of the trust as a legal entity when official and that means meeting a minimum twice per year but in all honesty what do you hope to achieve from the meetings? Just because they are obliged to meet you doesn't mean they are obliged to do anything for/with you. Whilst I wish you all the luck I honestly can't help but feel this is a futile exercise. I was actually in Nottingham today but had other duties to attend to. Wished I'd attended after getting to the first one. Anyhow Rob will let us know details as he said. Understand more about a trust and we'd understand that it would be run as all other trusts whereas the sides (as people keep viewing it) are the club and Trust. More so it is an official sports club and an official fans organisation. Why would the Sports organisation not want to hear/listen to the fans? They are the merchandising/ticket buying future. To try and avoid some kind of dialog would be detrimental. Do anything for them? No need it's to be a close relationship where the trust runs themselves and the Panthers likewise at Nottingham Ice Hockey club HQ.Everyone seems to read this as an 'us and them' scenario. It's nothing but positive stuff from the Trust and for the club. The Trust is out to get a better relationship between club and supporter. So meetings between the two would help that. If the club didn't want to engage we'd then see how things would pan out thereafter.
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 3, 2017 11:06:39 GMT
Good. I'm glad mate. I really hope this works, so long as everyone is pulling in the same direction then all is good. My biggest fear for this is that if too many people become involved at the start then differences of opinion could derail it. I'd love to get involved with you but I'm not sure what more opinions would add to the melting pot and I hope a more people feel the same. It's your baby, so you run with it Rob. Kudos to you Hi Caesar, The thing is we want and need as many of the fan base as possible to get on board with this. It's certainly not my thing, this is to help improve things for all fans. I would love to get you involved. The thing with a Trust is that it's a totally democratic process so any decisions need to be agreed on formally. The more people, skills, and opinions on board the better.
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 3, 2017 21:38:59 GMT
Wow! The meeting couldn't have gone better, great turnout, very positive questions and comments. A really good base has now been set to allow us to progress and move on to the next stage. What do you hope the trust will genuinely achieve? I have seen comments that the club must acknowledge the existence of the trust as a legal entity when official and that means meeting a minimum twice per year but in all honesty what do you hope to achieve from the meetings? Just because they are obliged to meet you doesn't mean they are obliged to do anything for/with you. Whilst I wish you all the luck I honestly can't help but feel this is a futile exercise. We hope to improve the relationship between the club and the fans. We've held 2 meetings now and I've also offered to meet people who have questions before, during and after games. There are almost 200 fully operational trusts within U.K. sport and the number and strength of these trusts are growing all the time. We are not expecting instant results, this is a long term venture for the good of all Panthers fans and for generations to come. So, again, if you are genuinely interested give me a call, meet up, attend a meeting.... Cheers Rob 07974 330553
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 5, 2017 12:02:16 GMT
We are now working hard on securing a suitable venue for the open meeting. This is likely to be held around the end of March.
Further details to follow asap.
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 20, 2017 23:09:52 GMT
We had a lengthy chat with Brock Wilson this evening. He's 100% behind the trust and is urging more of the PanthersNation to get on board.
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Post by iginla on Jan 21, 2017 0:06:10 GMT
Pretty much everybody is on board Rob......but are the Panthers ?
Have they acknowledged your email yet ?
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 21, 2017 0:31:49 GMT
Pretty much everybody is on board Rob......but are the Panthers ? Have they acknowledged your email yet ? No. We will be announcing the date, venue and time for the legal open meeting chaired by Supporters Direct soon. The club will be formally invited to that meeting which is the next step towards the legal formation of the trust.
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Post by iginla on Jan 21, 2017 0:41:41 GMT
Pretty much everybody is on board Rob......but are the Panthers ? Have they acknowledged your email yet ? No. We will be announcing the date, venue and time for the legal open meeting chaired by Supporters Direct soon. The club will be formally invited to that meeting which is the next step towards the legal formation of the trust. Mmmm that's not good. And if they don't acknowledge the trust,what happens next ?
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 21, 2017 0:50:10 GMT
No. We will be announcing the date, venue and time for the legal open meeting chaired by Supporters Direct soon. The club will be formally invited to that meeting which is the next step towards the legal formation of the trust. Mmmm that's not good. And if they don't acknowledge the trust,what happens next ? We weren't expecting them to enter a dialogue by this stage. Hopeful but not expectant. Dialogue and engagement with the club is not that important at this stage. Building the credibility of the trust and the amount of people on board are the main things at this stage. I think it's been well documented what the options are for a fully operational trust. We are not at that stage yet.
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Post by iginla on Jan 21, 2017 0:54:17 GMT
Mmmm that's not good. And if they don't acknowledge the trust,what happens next ? We weren't expecting them to enter a dialogue by this stage. Hopeful but not expectant. Dialogue and engagement with the club is not that important at this stage. Building the credibility of the trust and the amount of people on board are the main things at this stage. I think it's been well documented what the options are for a fully operational trust. We are not at that stage yet. Maybe not so important at this stage. But if after going through all the various motions the Panthers won't acknowledge the trust,then surely it has been a waste of a lot of time and effort ?
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 21, 2017 1:07:08 GMT
We weren't expecting them to enter a dialogue by this stage. Hopeful but not expectant. Dialogue and engagement with the club is not that important at this stage. Building the credibility of the trust and the amount of people on board are the main things at this stage. I think it's been well documented what the options are for a fully operational trust. We are not at that stage yet. Maybe not so important at this stage. But if after going through all the various motions the Panthers won't acknowledge the trust,then surely it has been a waste of a lot of time and effort ? That's why we are setting it us as a trust rather than a club. I believe you already know this though.
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 21, 2017 8:11:45 GMT
Lots of hard work going on behind the scenes lately. Supporters Trust Hoodies will be designed and available for purchase from next week. We have a new article and other new content on the website www.pantherstrust.co.ukThe venue for the open meeting has been booked. As soon as we have the contract back we will be announcing the date and time. This will be before the end of next week. Brock Wilson is now involved with the Supporters Trust and is urging the PanthersNation to get on board. If you haven't already get in touch today to find out how you can help to make a positive change at our club. Cheers Rob 07974 330553
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Post by Bagheera on Jan 21, 2017 9:59:58 GMT
Im not interested in getting involved in terms of meetings etc. However if membership numbers help Im happy to put my name to it/sign up.
Not sure your thoughts with membership. Quite happy to be sent updates/newsletter type things too. You may find a lot of like minded people. Care enough to support you in what you are doing, but can't or don't want to put loads of effort in. Saying you have 2,000(whatever figure you could achieve) members may add more weight to things perhaps. Technology is there for online voting for members for key decisions im sure too.
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