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Post by Yotes on Aug 10, 2018 9:24:25 GMT
Recent email sounds fairly terminal to me.
In terms of getting more people to apply to be board members etc, could we have some info on roles required, what the time (and any other type of) commitment is etc?
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Post by NIHST Communications on Aug 10, 2018 9:42:17 GMT
Hi Yotes, It isn't nescesarily 'terminal', we are wanting to keep the members informed. If you want to know more on getting involved can I ask that you either email contact@nihst.org or PM us.
thank you.
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Post by BigLad on Aug 10, 2018 12:58:32 GMT
Recent email sounds fairly terminal to me. In terms of getting more people to apply to be board members etc, could we have some info on roles required, what the time (and any other type of) commitment is etc? Moran wins again.
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Post by Rob Scott on Aug 14, 2018 13:07:01 GMT
I think the trust has helped to induce some positive changes at the club. It's a shame but not a surprise the way the club reacted but there are obviously lots and lots of good reasons for that. I hope it's not the end for the Trust but if it is those involved can hold their heads up and at least say that they tried.
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Post by spik on Aug 14, 2018 17:14:54 GMT
I think the trust has helped to induce some positive changes at the club. It's a shame but not a surprise the way the club reacted but there are obviously lots and lots of good reasons for that. I hope it's not the end for the Trust but if it is those involved can hold their heads up and at least say that they tried. ...and it would have been an oppertunity lost by the club. However, the Trust is still here and to continue would leave the door open to the Parliament Street Ice Hockey club to take advantage in the future. If not, it will still exist, one would hope, for the fans. Could communicate to the fans, from the fans as it is an entity which evolved by the fans.
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Post by NIHST Communications on Aug 18, 2018 15:43:50 GMT
Recent email sounds fairly terminal to me. In terms of getting more people to apply to be board members etc, could we have some info on roles required, what the time (and any other type of) commitment is etc? Just a bit more on roles we think are required. Going forward, we believe the mandatory, minimum Board roles required would be: • Chair • Secretary • Finance lead / treasurer • Communications, social media, (IT support) Optional roles that could be included depending on how people want to share the workload • Vice-chair • Membership secretary Co-opting other people for extra help in specific areas or general support can always be done at any time by the Board The Board can empower members to run projects on behalf of the Trust providing the Board retains oversight and ultimate accountability. Key requirements of roles:• Chair – to be the overall external face of the Trust; principal contact for external relationships and media; principal driver of the objectives of the Trust • Secretary – operations and governance; management and application of Trust rules, policies, process and procedures; meetings management (Board Meetings, General meetings, Annual General Meeting); minutes and management of actions • Finance lead / treasurer – to maintain control and oversight of all financial matters in accordance with the Trust rules and the requirements of the Financial Conduct Authority; to be the principal point of contact for the FCA; required to produce annual accounts that are acceptable for external audit or independent review; to complete the annual FCA return (AR30); principal controller of the Trust Bank Account • Communications and social media (IT Support) – tech savvy individual required to manage and operate various social media platforms, email account for communicating with Trust members and website; communications platform for Board members (eg WhatsApp group or alternative tool) The above roles cover the operational requirements of running the Trust. What the Board also needs to do is to generate ideas and activity to progress the objectives and interests of the Trust. This is potentially where co-opted members come in for specific items, areas of expertise or interest. So if you've got specific skills or ideas for trust activities, then there's still lots you can do to help with the running of the trust without joining the board and we want those people too.
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Post by spik on Oct 20, 2018 15:39:36 GMT
Two months on can we have some update?
I have offered my help to which I understand thought on the subject was in hand but again the continued 'silence' has not empowered me to be interested anymore. This lethargy is born from my not attending games much now , apart from cost/family life.
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Post by NIHST Communications on Oct 23, 2018 17:01:50 GMT
Spik, I have just picked this up. As you are aware getting engagement from the members has not been plentiful, despite a number of communiques, and the current interim board is quite few in number trying to drive the Trust forward. We have been working on trying to finalise year end reports etc. for the agm which has taken up a lot of time and effort communicating with the FCA, Supporters Direct, scrutinising of accounts, etc.
The notice of the AGM has been sent out to all members (if you have not received this please email to contact@nihst.org), from this it is hoped that people will come forward to get involved.
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Post by spik on Feb 11, 2019 15:23:00 GMT
It's four months on now. End of season soon.
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iginla
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Post by iginla on Feb 11, 2019 17:06:59 GMT
Is the Trust now dead ?
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Post by NIHST Communications on Feb 12, 2019 11:02:26 GMT
We were constantly reaching out for support at our AGM held in November. We have emailed the membership a number of times since the AGM looking for people to come forward to run the Trust or get involved. We got minimal support for & at the AGM, and zero response to requests for people to help going forward.
A decision on the next step(s) will be made and communicated out to the members.
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Post by Pies on Feb 12, 2019 11:50:23 GMT
Let’s be honest, it’s died a death now. Any credibilty it did have has been and gone. If it can’t be organised to even get members to step forward, how can we be confident said members would then be able to do anything
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Post by spik on Feb 12, 2019 11:53:38 GMT
We were constantly reaching out for support at our AGM held in November. We have emailed the membership a number of times since the AGM looking for people to come forward to run the Trust or get involved. We got minimal support for & at the AGM, and zero response to requests for people to help going forward. A decision on the next step(s) will be made and communicated out to the members. I was at work for the meeting but had offered help in line with sporting activities for members. I think your against it all because of red tape, so I assume the fate will be a closure. Of the two emails I have received it seems your rather against it with or without fan involvement now.
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Post by Robbie Nud on Feb 12, 2019 13:03:56 GMT
I see that the issue is / was twofold. The club actively against it; for what reason? Fear? They seemed to have spent more effort in stopping the Trust than engaging with fans. The other is the attitude of the fan base. Lots of support to start but when it actually came down to being involved meetings were like the Marie Celeste. I know some members wanted a fire and brimstone campaign and would have been happy to stone or tar & feather the club management, but for the most it was 'meh'. This season, has been dire, probably even worse than the season that invoked the idea and formation of the Trust, but what has happened? Diddly-squat, it is obvious that we have happy to put up with it. Cash cows? Cash sheep might be nearer.
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Post by iginla on Feb 12, 2019 14:18:06 GMT
Unfortunately it was never even a starter,a great shame but without the club being involved or them even being prepared to acknowledge the Trust it was a dead duck. As a private limited company Panthers knew from the start that the Trust had no power whatsoever to force the club to do anything,even engage in dialogue and any attempt to raise money for the Trust from anything promoting the club would be met with a stern response.
It’s a great shame and it was a valiant try by Rob etc but the Nottingham Panthers once again showed their true colours and scant regard for their fan base.
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Post by spik on Feb 16, 2019 9:04:43 GMT
The most recent (unknown by a lot of fans and definitely outside the Trust) aspect was troubling outside of the fans and clubs power. That being the red tape or should I say the barriers that suddenly fell upon the organisation. Not their fault and an upset for the predicted continuation of it. Very separate from the things most would think/know of. A pity and an unfortunate happening suddenly. Something that I can't divulge into, but it was nothing to do with the club at all.
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Post by Rob Scott on Oct 12, 2019 20:29:38 GMT
Anyone?.......
Haha! Nearly managed to do that with a straight face!
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Jord v4
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 12, 2019 21:04:10 GMT
There's a letter going out, or a leaflet campaign.... Perhaps... Or a meeting in a pub before the next home game, I think... Honest.
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Post by PantherG on Oct 12, 2019 23:43:03 GMT
Didn’t the head or a key member of the supporters trust get banned for asking some questions at a fans forum?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 2:24:43 GMT
Didn’t the head or a key member of the supporters trust get banned for asking some questions at a fans forum? ...and subsequently thrown under the bus by those at the Trust despite doing much of the groundwork. I didn't, and still don't think a trust is the way to make change happen in Nottingham but at least Rob got off his backside and did something. For me the only way anything will ever change is if you hit Neil Black's back pocket. The amount of fans I see complaining about how we make the same errors year in year out to then go and renew their season tickets, buy a jersey or two, buy 50/50 tickets is laughable. Hockey in Nottingham for the majority is a hobby/social event, not a passion. Which isn't a bad thing if people get what they want out of it. It's just so frustrating for the die hard hockey fans that there are so many cash cows that just allow Neil Black to count the profits each year without having to make major changes to his budget/structure.
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