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Post by iginla on Aug 24, 2016 21:32:30 GMT
Dan Green has been stealing a wage for years when will CN realise this. When will green admit he ll never be close to good enough !! Green is an easy scape goat - Saturday Wiikmand had little protection in from of him. Its not that easy to find a netminder who is willing to accept a position where they only play when the team is often struggling and you take the ice when the likes of KWall has picked up an injury. Green of course has often not had much match play leading up to a situation where he is called upon. I bet you could dress a fan every game to sit on the bench waiting for the maybe one time in a season he might have to go on the ice because the no1 actually got injured in a game. You don't really even have to be a goalie because it so rarely happens,think I can only remember it once,when Kwall busted his shoulder in Belfast. The answer is sign a reasonable back up import netminder,it would only bloody cost them about £15k a year for gods sake !
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Post by Yotes on Aug 24, 2016 21:57:26 GMT
Glad to see Farmer amongst the goals. Finding out that Miika is crucial (as apparently Brian is to Coventry) isn't exactly news. I'd be a bit miffed if I'd travelled I guess but you'd have to have expected it. Ease Miika through these games, last thing we need is over working him before the real action starts.
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Post by Mark Mac on Aug 24, 2016 22:10:13 GMT
Green is an easy scape goat - Saturday Wiikmand had little protection in from of him. Its not that easy to find a netminder who is willing to accept a position where they only play when the team is often struggling and you take the ice when the likes of KWall has picked up an injury. Green of course has often not had much match play leading up to a situation where he is called upon. I bet you could dress a fan every game to sit on the bench waiting for the maybe one time in a season he might have to go on the ice because the no1 actually got injured in a game. You don't really even have to be a goalie because it so rarely happens,think I can only remember it once,when Kwall busted his shoulder in Belfast. The answer is sign a reasonable back up import netminder,it would only bloody cost them about £15k a year for gods sake ! But realistically what import goalie would sign for £15k per year? Now I'm not defending Dan Green at all (him playing over the last 2 games has really irritated me) but are we realistically going to get any better as a backup? That does raise the obvious issue that if something happens to our main goalie then we must get someone in rather than relying on our backup.
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Post by iginla on Aug 24, 2016 22:55:12 GMT
I bet you could dress a fan every game to sit on the bench waiting for the maybe one time in a season he might have to go on the ice because the no1 actually got injured in a game. You don't really even have to be a goalie because it so rarely happens,think I can only remember it once,when Kwall busted his shoulder in Belfast. The answer is sign a reasonable back up import netminder,it would only bloody cost them about £15k a year for gods sake ! But realistically what import goalie would sign for £15k per year? Now I'm not defending Dan Green at all (him playing over the last 2 games has really irritated me) but are we realistically going to get any better as a backup? That does raise the obvious issue that if something happens to our main goalie then we must get someone in rather than relying on our backup. You'd be surprised Mark. For £500 a week i bet you could have your pick of plenty,probably even get Madolora for that. I'm not suggesting a top goalie,just an average import who would certainly be miles better than Dan Green.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Aug 24, 2016 23:10:27 GMT
Poor old Dan must have skin as thick as a Rhino unless he is Eddie The Eagle of netminding all of a sudden. The defending was good old "Sexy Neilson Hockey" in the 3rd but Dan looked like he should have straw coming out of his sleeves. It was a huge upgrade when we pulled him (or Neilson took him off to have him shot. I didn't think to ask) and played with six outskaters. Green has now had more ice time over the years than Torvill & Dean and it really is time to give a younger kid a chance.
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Post by iginla on Aug 24, 2016 23:25:14 GMT
Ah well that explains it.....GM has just come out with an absolute pearler to Corey in the post game interview. We didn't win tonight because "the boys were embarrassed to score any more past Coventrys back up" !
I think I have now heard it all !!!!
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Post by ggggranville on Aug 25, 2016 8:10:48 GMT
The answer is sign a reasonable back up import netminder,it would only bloody cost them about £15k a year for gods sake ! If we did sign and dress an import netminder wouldn't that mean that we would have to sit an out skater ? I am presuming that there is a limit of 14 imports who can dress. So in the scenario you give of him being required once in a blue moon, we would waste an import out skater to do it. I of course could be wrong- usually am 😎
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Post by jdizpt8 on Aug 25, 2016 8:40:38 GMT
Ah well that explains it.....GM has just come out with an absolute pearler to Corey in the post game interview. We didn't win tonight because "the boys were embarrassed to score any more past Coventrys back up" ! I think I have now heard it all !!!! Jeez someone do us a favour and put him in a box and ship it one way to Timbuktu
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Post by jdizpt8 on Aug 25, 2016 8:44:44 GMT
If we did sign and dress an import netminder wouldn't that mean that we would have to sit an out skater ? I am presuming that there is a limit of 14 imports who can dress. So in the scenario you give of him being required once in a blue moon, we would waste an import out skater to do it. I of course could be wrong- usually am 😎 No that's correct, 14 dressed imports per game. The only way around it is to have the best Brit pack which we don't and 12 top top calibre import skaters which also we don't. Maybe to strike a deal with Peterborough and have Auzins as injury cover because he's pretty damn good
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Aug 25, 2016 8:47:39 GMT
If we did sign and dress an import netminder wouldn't that mean that we would have to sit an out skater ? I am presuming that there is a limit of 14 imports who can dress. So in the scenario you give of him being required once in a blue moon, we would waste an import out skater to do it. I of course could be wrong- usually am 😎 If your first choice gets injured (as in loses a leg or something) in a game then use a pad dummy like Green for the rest of the game and then use the spare import in the games running up to your first choice netminder being fit. If you had to start Green in games while the search started or Mika got fit then it would be league suicide. No import place would change.
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Post by PantherB on Aug 25, 2016 9:11:14 GMT
Like someone said on Twitter, to be fair to Green, at least 2 of the goals were rockets which went straight to the top shelf. Wiikman would've struggled to stop them. The first one he let in was lack of awareness and tracking the puck, bit clumsy.
We just didn't do enough at the other end of the ice, took a few pot shots which Marr spilled but we tried to be too fancy with the tic-tac-toe instead or ripping a slap shot. Marr has a lot of potential but he gives up rebounds on nearly every shot, he's relatively small and he isn't particularly quick. Our offence let us down in the final 15 minutes. If we'd have kept the pressure on then Blaze wouldn't have been able to get as many breakaways and chances at our end
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Post by iginla on Aug 25, 2016 9:43:53 GMT
If your first choice gets injured (as in loses a leg or something) in a game then use a pad dummy like Green for the rest of the game and then use the spare import in the games running up to your first choice netminder being fit. If you had to start Green in games while the search started or Mika got fit then it would be league suicide. No import place would change. That's exactly what I meant FS. The spare import goalie only dresses when the no1 is out injured. In the very rare event that the no1 gets injured during a game,then it's either Greener or the dummy fan netminder taking over and I'm afraid you probably just have to write that game off as bad luck.
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Post by iginla on Aug 25, 2016 9:49:55 GMT
Like someone said on Twitter, to be fair to Green, at least 2 of the goals were rockets which went straight to the top shelf. Wiikman would've struggled to stop them. The first one he let in was lack of awareness and tracking the puck, bit clumsy. We just didn't do enough at the other end of the ice, took a few pot shots which Marr spilled but we tried to be too fancy with the tic-tac-toe instead or ripping a slap shot. Marr has a lot of potential but he gives up rebounds on nearly every shot, he's relatively small and he isn't particularly quick. Our offence let us down in the final 15 minutes. If we'd have kept the pressure on then Blaze wouldn't have been able to get as many breakaways and chances at our end What you mean Pantherb is.... That our forwards are crap at scoring goals. Which is exactly what some people have been trying to tell you since we signed this team ! Jeez,apart from Robert Farmer and a couple of Dmen our forwards have scored one goal in two games.....and even that was a lucky,speculative half shot from way out on the boards by Carter against Braehead !!
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Post by dill1015 on Aug 25, 2016 10:22:31 GMT
Like someone said on Twitter, to be fair to Green, at least 2 of the goals were rockets which went straight to the top shelf. Wiikman would've struggled to stop them. The first one he let in was lack of awareness and tracking the puck, bit clumsy. We just didn't do enough at the other end of the ice, took a few pot shots which Marr spilled but we tried to be too fancy with the tic-tac-toe instead or ripping a slap shot. Marr has a lot of potential but he gives up rebounds on nearly every shot, he's relatively small and he isn't particularly quick. Our offence let us down in the final 15 minutes. If we'd have kept the pressure on then Blaze wouldn't have been able to get as many breakaways and chances at our end What you mean Pantherb is.... That our forwards are crap at scoring goals. Which is exactly what some people have been trying to tell you since we signed this team ! Jeez,apart from Robert Farmer and a couple of Dmen our forwards have scored one goal in two games.....and even that was a lucky,speculative half shot from way out on the boards by Carter against Braehead !! You cant draw acurate conclusions from 2 games. By the same token we could say that Farmer is going to be pushing 100 goals this season... But so far it hasnt been the most encoraging pre season. This is why guys need to get here early so they can start running systems. Its doesnt help that our 2 top centres arent here yet. Seriously where the hell is Brad Moran?
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Post by Zukiwskyfan on Aug 25, 2016 10:47:32 GMT
We just didn't do enough at the other end of the ice Didn't do enough??? We scored 5 goals!!!
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Post by Yotes on Aug 25, 2016 10:50:50 GMT
Seriously where the hell is Brad Moran? Amen. Ridiculous now. If he has a valid reason fair enough, but let's hear it in vague terms at least. I assume they're off to France today, so is he missing that too?
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Post by PantherB on Aug 25, 2016 10:59:15 GMT
We just didn't do enough at the other end of the ice Didn't do enough??? We scored 5 goals!!! Which wasn't enough! We tried to play too fancy whilst Marr was in net, and playing that kind of style isn't as effective as just ripping a shot. Sounds stupid but defencemen usually collapse around their backup, they did with Marr after their Timeout and we didn't change our approach. Blaze took a lot of slapshots and pot shots, getting rebounds.. They scored more as a result and that our defence didn't collapse in on Green, they were usually up with the forwards making creative plays. As for our forwards not being good enough Iginla, they're plenty good enough. Not one disappointed last night and a lot were robbed of great goalscoring chances, whilst Stewart was in net, and they didn't take advantage of Marr in net.
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Post by fishman on Aug 25, 2016 11:00:46 GMT
Talking of Farmer a hat trick for the big guy, line mates or pick & mix?
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Post by Zukiwskyfan on Aug 25, 2016 12:53:19 GMT
We just didn't do enough at the other end of the ice Didn't do enough??? We scored 5 goals!!! Which wasn't enough! We tried to play too fancy whilst Marr was in net, and playing that kind of style isn't as effective as just ripping a shot. Sounds stupid but defencemen usually collapse around their backup, they did with Marr after their Timeout and we didn't change our approach. Blaze took a lot of slapshots and pot shots, getting rebounds.. They scored more as a result and that our defence didn't collapse in on Green, they were usually up with the forwards making creative plays. As for our forwards not being good enough Iginla, they're plenty good enough. Not one disappointed last night and a lot were robbed of great goalscoring chances, whilst Stewart was in net, and they didn't take advantage of Marr in net. So the forwards are to blame for only scoring 5 goals rather than the goalie who let in 6 goals in 20 mins?? Defences generally tend to tighten up around a back up goalie not collapse as you claim.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 13:36:24 GMT
The forwards did nothing wrong for 40 mins . We were creating chances and played sensible. Goalies swapped and our fantastic coach carried on the same game plan with with a sub standard epl standard goalie in net.
Stewart adapted the way Coventry defended in front of Marr. Apart from the first few shifts the coped very well.
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Post by mattscold on Aug 25, 2016 13:42:08 GMT
Seriously where the hell is Brad Moran? Amen. Ridiculous now. If he has a valid reason fair enough, but let's hear it in vague terms at least. I assume they're off to France today, so is he missing that too? Been thinking about this. How long until we hear he isn't returning?
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Post by EMB on Aug 25, 2016 13:45:39 GMT
Amen. Ridiculous now. If he has a valid reason fair enough, but let's hear it in vague terms at least. I assume they're off to France today, so is he missing that too? Been thinking about this. How long until we hear he isn't returning? Surely not another one that can't bring his pets so his agent is looking round? Lol
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Post by tim27 on Aug 25, 2016 13:48:43 GMT
I cant see Brad Moran not turning up unless its for health reason surely he would want to finish his education at loughborough.
Either way the club should be updating their fans what is happening with the club and players.
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Post by Rob Scott on Aug 25, 2016 13:48:53 GMT
Coach Corey Neilson is hunting for a new centre today after receiving news that Brad Moran will be hanging up the skates and taking a job outside of hockey.
We wish will all the best.
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Post by fishman on Aug 25, 2016 13:55:28 GMT
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