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Post by Ian on Apr 11, 2016 10:22:49 GMT
Don't know whether he will be, but MacMillan would be one of the first players I would ask back if I were the coach. His workrate is excellent, especially on the PK, and he brings a physical aspect to the role that previous Panthers grinders like Benedict and Parent lacked. He also has better skills than many others who perform his role, as you would expect from a first round draft pick. A major contributor to our success in my opinion, who is not as easy to replace as some people are suggesting.
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Post by dill1015 on Apr 11, 2016 12:04:28 GMT
Jut to throw it out there. If we dot get someone like Bohmbach, Shultz or Kolnik back, i'd love to see Brendan Cook back in a Panthers shirt. Had a great career since leaving us.
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Post by Dan on Apr 11, 2016 13:06:23 GMT
Hopefully we will get them all back, I really like our team, unfortunately however people have different circumstances. Next season the import limit is increasing to 14, 12 work permit and 2 dual national. Definites who are here are Cam and Mosey who signed up, Moran, Waugh and Dimmen are on uni courses that extend into next season, I think the ones we won't see back are Madalora (seen some tweets of him selling gear etc.), Schmidt (retiring), Macdonald (retiring), Betteridge (who I think is very ticked off at the lack of ice time) and unfortunately Kolnik, this will be the biggest loss, I have heard people mention that his wife is unwell so this is why I believe he will leave I think the rest of the imports will return in the form of Wiikman, Quick, Macmillan, Lawrence, Schultz, Bohmbach, I think we will retain all the British players and that will leave us with three new imports to sign Might just be me, but i certainly don't want all of that mid-table team back.
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Post by Ian on Apr 11, 2016 13:24:35 GMT
Might just be me, but i certainly don't want all of that mid-table team back. Spot on. I definitely advocate keeping a strong core of players, but we have to look at where we fell short this season and replace some players to address that. For me, two of the key areas are: Sniper - A genuine dependable goalscorer. I've seen us lose games this year because other teams had a player like this (Roy, Doucet etc.) and we haven't. This deficiency will be even more severe if Kolnik's not back as he was probably the closest we had. Physical D-man - A big, physical stay-at-home defenceman to keep the slot clear. Once again, far too many scrambles round our net this past season. We have mobile d-men and good positional guys, but this is what we lack. I don't believe Corey's new deal is an invitation to give us more of the same - he should be challenged to build on what we have and make us even better.
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Post by Bagheera on Apr 11, 2016 19:34:24 GMT
I get where people are coming from with Mac. It isn't a case that he was poor and people don't want him. Just simply needing to tweak the team to help gain the points needed. We do have a lot of forwards prepared to do the dirty work already. Im not a huge fan of the extra import next season as I think this last season was about the right balance. I'd like to see Ollie get Lachos slot on a forward line rather than going to an import(Just my view that I'd relegate Lacho to 13th, which he wont do or let him go). I 'd like to see a solid 4 import D at least, maybe 5 and 2 import goalies at least on the books. I actually think 2 on match night may be more beneficial than the asumed wasted slot. The ability to pull a goalie off early when playing poorly knowing you can replace with quality makes a big difference.
Most have said the one thing missing this last season was an out and out sniper. With that in mind if all import forwards were available to come back & the ones already signed, Which 1 would you cut to allow a Ducet, Beau type player to come in? It could only be between Bohmbach & Mac for me. I wouldn't be unhappy for Mac to be back but we to correct the balance of the forwards somewhat.
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Post by iginla on Apr 11, 2016 21:30:02 GMT
I get where people are coming from with Mac. It isn't a case that he was poor and people don't want him. Just simply needing to tweak the team to help gain the points needed. We do have a lot of forwards prepared to do the dirty work already. Im not a huge fan of the extra import next season as I think this last season was about the right balance. I'd like to see Ollie get Lachos slot on a forward line rather than going to an import(Just my view that I'd relegate Lacho to 13th, which he wont do or let him go). I 'd like to see a solid 4 import D at least, maybe 5 and 2 import goalies at least on the books. I actually think 2 on match night may be more beneficial than the asumed wasted slot. The ability to pull a goalie off early when playing poorly knowing you can replace with quality makes a big difference. Most have said the one thing missing this last season was an out and out sniper. With that in mind if all import forwards were available to come back & the ones already signed, Which 1 would you cut to allow a Ducet, Beau type player to come in? It could only be between Bohmbach & Mac for me. I wouldn't be unhappy for Mac to be back but we to correct the balance of the forwards somewhat. Just use next years extra import slot to sign an out and out sniper......sorted. ?
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Post by Bagheera on Apr 11, 2016 21:40:32 GMT
I get where people are coming from with Mac. It isn't a case that he was poor and people don't want him. Just simply needing to tweak the team to help gain the points needed. We do have a lot of forwards prepared to do the dirty work already. Im not a huge fan of the extra import next season as I think this last season was about the right balance. I'd like to see Ollie get Lachos slot on a forward line rather than going to an import(Just my view that I'd relegate Lacho to 13th, which he wont do or let him go). I 'd like to see a solid 4 import D at least, maybe 5 and 2 import goalies at least on the books. I actually think 2 on match night may be more beneficial than the asumed wasted slot. The ability to pull a goalie off early when playing poorly knowing you can replace with quality makes a big difference. Most have said the one thing missing this last season was an out and out sniper. With that in mind if all import forwards were available to come back & the ones already signed, Which 1 would you cut to allow a Ducet, Beau type player to come in? It could only be between Bohmbach & Mac for me. I wouldn't be unhappy for Mac to be back but we to correct the balance of the forwards somewhat. Just use next years extra import slot to sign an out and out sniper......sorted. ? We could and wouldn't be an issue. Im not one to call for more Brits but think it would be disapointing for somebody like Ollie to lose a slot to an import. If we didnt have Ollie then I wouldn't argue to much seeing one come in for Lacho. I guess its just feeling Ollie didnt get a fair crack this season when he probably deserved it.
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Post by Stargazer on Apr 11, 2016 22:13:54 GMT
Hopefully we will get them all back, I really like our team, unfortunately however people have different circumstances. Next season the import limit is increasing to 14, 12 work permit and 2 dual national. Definites who are here are Cam and Mosey who signed up, Moran, Waugh and Dimmen are on uni courses that extend into next season, I think the ones we won't see back are Madalora (seen some tweets of him selling gear etc.), Schmidt (retiring), Macdonald (retiring), Betteridge (who I think is very ticked off at the lack of ice time) and unfortunately Kolnik, this will be the biggest loss, I have heard people mention that his wife is unwell so this is why I believe he will leave I think the rest of the imports will return in the form of Wiikman, Quick, Macmillan, Lawrence, Schultz, Bohmbach, I think we will retain all the British players and that will leave us with three new imports to sign Might just be me, but i certainly don't want all of that mid-table team back. This is the thing isn't it. If we aren't changing/looking for a Coach that's capable of motivating the players and getting more out of them throughout a season, then upgrades on the ice are a must!
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Post by shmyrohdear on Apr 12, 2016 0:49:33 GMT
What i think isn't being thought of as the main issue for us being mid table is the coaching. We saw more line combinations than wins last season (obvious over exaggeration but you get my point) and a lack of responsibility taken by management to fill the gaps when injuries occurred. I would have no problem with us taking this squad back and adding a goal scorer. This team is more than capable when healthy to dominate the league, there's an obvious bond in the locker room and the similarities between the GS team and this one are almost scary. The one area i believe needs changing is the captaincy, put someone like Mosey or Mac, who lead by example and give their absolute all for the team in the leading position.
Clarke is a very useful Brit, comes up big but on the ice he's become very passive and doesn't seem to get these boys in line or fired up when it's required.
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Post by jd on Apr 12, 2016 12:26:25 GMT
Dimmen, Waugh, Lacho can all go for me.
Glad Moran is back, hes quality
Not sure Juraj/Miika will be back, Bomber maybe, Schultz i reckon will come back
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Post by jd on Apr 12, 2016 12:27:07 GMT
What i think isn't being thought of as the main issue for us being mid table is the coaching. We saw more line combinations than wins last season (obvious over exaggeration but you get my point) and a lack of responsibility taken by management to fill the gaps when injuries occurred. I would have no problem with us taking this squad back and adding a goal scorer. This team is more than capable when healthy to dominate the league, there's an obvious bond in the locker room and the similarities between the GS team and this one are almost scary. The one area i believe needs changing is the captaincy, put someone like Mosey or Mac, who lead by example and give their absolute all for the team in the leading position. Clarke is a very useful Brit, comes up big but on the ice he's become very passive and doesn't seem to get these boys in line or fired up when it's required. He was doing that all PO weekend - I thought he was outstanding for that
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Post by Robbie Nud on Apr 12, 2016 12:46:34 GMT
But 1 weekend is not enough, you need your captain to lead on the ice every game. Nice guys in the dressing room and being a face for the club doesn't win you games. It is no coincidence that we won the league with Fox as captain who would do what was necessary to gee up the team, whether it was make a hit, have a fight or chirp at the opposition. Because we couldn't do it with Meyers as captain and haven't done with it Clarke.
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Post by wgray on Apr 12, 2016 14:54:36 GMT
Dimmen, Waugh, Lacho can all go for me. Glad Moran is back, hes quality Not sure Juraj/Miika will be back, Bomber maybe, Schultz i reckon will come back this isn't a dig but what are your thoughts in regards to why you wouldn't want dimmen back?
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Post by Ghost on Apr 12, 2016 16:53:39 GMT
But 1 weekend is not enough, you need your captain to lead on the ice every game. Nice guys in the dressing room and being a face for the club doesn't win you games. It is no coincidence that we won the league with Fox as captain who would do what was necessary to gee up the team, whether it was make a hit, have a fight or chirp at the opposition. Because we couldn't do it with Meyers as captain and haven't done with it Clarke. Exactly right. Incidentally I thought Meyers was also a better captain than Clarke, but not a patch on Fox.
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Post by kezypanther on Apr 12, 2016 17:47:29 GMT
Someone said on Facebook they have spoken to Dimmen today in town and he said he is back next year.
Also Bombach and MacMillan are still here, they was at the forest game last night.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2016 17:51:48 GMT
Dimmen, Waugh, Lacho can all go for me. Glad Moran is back, hes quality Not sure Juraj/Miika will be back, Bomber maybe, Schultz i reckon will come back Dimmen, really? Crikey.
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Post by allingtonskates on Apr 12, 2016 18:40:15 GMT
I would like the whole team back because with the two new d men at the start of they year I reckon it would have changed a lot and with less injurys we could have done it.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Apr 12, 2016 18:43:07 GMT
We need an out and out sniper, set lines, improved back room physio/conditioning/gym training staff. Then this team could win the league
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Post by Peacock on Apr 12, 2016 21:00:39 GMT
Dimmen and Waugh were both on 2 year Uni deals weren't they?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2016 21:05:45 GMT
Dimmen and Waugh were both on 2 year Uni deals weren't they? Believe Waugh was, not Dimmen. Could be wrong mind you. Edit - Appears they are both at Uni this year. Not sure over the length of either course though.
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Post by jd on Apr 13, 2016 8:03:40 GMT
Dimmen, Waugh, Lacho can all go for me. Glad Moran is back, hes quality Not sure Juraj/Miika will be back, Bomber maybe, Schultz i reckon will come back this isn't a dig but what are your thoughts in regards to why you wouldn't want dimmen back? I didn't think he was that good a player
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Post by jd on Apr 13, 2016 8:03:57 GMT
Dimmen, Waugh, Lacho can all go for me. Glad Moran is back, hes quality Not sure Juraj/Miika will be back, Bomber maybe, Schultz i reckon will come back Dimmen, really? Crikey. Crikey, yes
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Post by Robbie Nud on Apr 13, 2016 10:05:08 GMT
I don't think we saw enough of Dimman. He played 36 games, 27 games less than Schmidt so he was missing for nearly half the season. The question would be is that is he now injury free and will he be able to do a full season? Also had he been fit would we have had either Quick or MacDonald but not both?
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Post by PantherB on Apr 13, 2016 10:44:15 GMT
If Kolnik is allowed to come back (family issues and wife's permission) then he will be back, he wants to come back and Panthers want him, things just need sorting out first.
I'm a bit surprised that people seem to think MacMillan is essentially irreplacable. Benedict WAS 'irreplacable' at one point and they share a similar role. I like Mac and he did play his role well, and he does deserve more credit but i don't think he'd be that difficult to replace. The fact he was Drafted 1st Round (19th Overall) should'nt sway any opinions on him because when it comes down to it he was a dud but that came down to a series of injuries around the important parts of each season and during NHL Training Camps, he did used to have attitude issues and was in trouble with the Police during his junior career which again, didn't do him any favours. I would like MacMillan to return but i won't be overly disappointed if he doesn't, he's the sort of player that needs a settled down future to help boost his confidence, his career has been very rocky and he's no doubt had a hell of a lot of pressure put on his shoulders due to the Draft Pick thing but i think if he was to stay with us for a couple more years he'd definitely turn into a better player overall as Corey seems to do a good job in getting the best out of players and i think there's a lot more to come from Mac.
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Post by Ian on Apr 13, 2016 11:34:30 GMT
Pretty much no import at our level is irreplaceable really. The only irreplaceable players are the top Brits, as those who moan about Clarke will discover when he retires and we suddenly are 20-30 goals lighter.
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