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Post by wgray on May 17, 2016 13:25:35 GMT
Who has started this rumour? Dave Simms?
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Post by Yotes on May 17, 2016 13:30:44 GMT
However this talking down of Betteridge is not really right imo. For the record, I wasn't agreeing with Iggy's comment that Ollie wouldn't be close to replacing Myers. I think he'd be perfectly capable of taking a regular shift, but then I thought that last year too, and I'd not be particularly surprised if he put up more points than Myers, even if weaker in other areas. But Neilson didn't play him last season, even when seemingly forced into it he found a way not to. Now he's lauding him as a bright young thing. It doesn't track.
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Post by Judda on May 17, 2016 13:53:11 GMT
I really hope this Cam rumour stays as a rumour, last thing we needs if for the 13 man roster to turn to 12....
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Post by iginla on May 17, 2016 14:02:36 GMT
I really hope this Cam rumour stays as a rumour, last thing we needs if for the 13 man roster to turn to 12.... So do i,but it's just the sort of stupid penny pinching thing Panthers do regularly. People laugh at me when i say Panthers don't always do all they could to win. But if it's true,it would be yet another classic case of "lose a player for the sake of a h'apeth of tar" !
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Post by deke on May 17, 2016 15:10:43 GMT
Let's be frank and honest yes ollie has the potential. He needs ice time to show it. But moving him up the ranks seems silly. Myers was quality and betteridge is no where close yet so we have downgraded, we have lacho who was mediocre at best last year. We have lost mosey we have lost bohmbach we have lost swindlehurst we have lost Myers. OK swindlehurst wasn't ground breaking but he was a good quality gb player which counts for a lot. Bohmbach mosey and Myers however were all key for us. I don't blame panthers for not keeping those three. Not anything they could do. If we want to progress and improve players that leave are upgraded. Betteridge is no upgrade, I like the guy but he is a downgrade. Be honest. We should have sorted our gb players and got some good gb players in to bolster and then hit the imports. We dawdled and we may regret it. Corey needs to really work his magic because this side already looks significantly weaker. As for brown I won't judge him yet. Does not have much stats to judge him by but I'm guessing the backing he has been given and the interest he had in him gives him the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by Judda on May 17, 2016 15:38:59 GMT
Let's be frank and honest yes ollie has the potential. He needs ice time to show it. But moving him up the ranks seems silly. Myers was quality and betteridge is no where close yet so we have downgraded, we have lacho who was mediocre at best last year. We have lost mosey we have lost bohmbach we have lost swindlehurst we have lost Myers. OK swindlehurst wasn't ground breaking but he was a good quality gb player which counts for a lot. Bohmbach mosey and Myers however were all key for us. I don't blame panthers for not keeping those three. Not anything they could do. If we want to progress and improve players that leave are upgraded. Betteridge is no upgrade, I like the guy but he is a downgrade. Be honest. We should have sorted our gb players and got some good gb players in to bolster and then hit the imports. We dawdled and we may regret it. Corey needs to really work his magic because this side already looks significantly weaker. As for brown I won't judge him yet. Does not have much stats to judge him by but I'm guessing the backing he has been given and the interest he had in him gives him the benefit of the doubt. I think you are right. having lost so many players and have only signed one new guy it is a bit worrying. I am only hoping that as we have signed a new guy that we have also resigned many of the last years lot and the management will release some good news before the weekend. I hope this mysterious 'club spokeswoman' that is always quoted on the site checks this site for fan opinion and throws us some good news soon.
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Post by deke on May 17, 2016 16:06:51 GMT
They will need to, this is a pretty big uncertainty at the moment they need a big bums on seats season ticket seller when we signed some of our key players back that would have started it off. They now need a big one to say to the other teams we mean business we are here to compete for the title. At the moment the squad shouts we will participate.
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Post by Judda on May 17, 2016 19:25:55 GMT
They will need to, this is a pretty big uncertainty at the moment they need a big bums on seats season ticket seller when we signed some of our key players back that would have started it off. They now need a big one to say to the other teams we mean business we are here to compete for the title. At the moment the squad shouts we will participate. Well this upcoming season is my first as a season ticket holder and I can definitely say Cam has been a big force in me wanting to go week in week out. You're right that a player can put bums on seats and I'm sure the sales would go up if they made some good signings/resignings.
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Post by jdizpt8 on May 17, 2016 21:39:26 GMT
Times like this we need Corey to get on the phone to Brock and Jordan and see if they've got any aces up their sleeves. They provided Cam last time so maybe they know a sniper who wants a team along with a set up man and 2 beasts for the blue line
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Post by EMB on May 17, 2016 23:05:30 GMT
So you seriously think that after signing the contract he then decides he wants to bring the dogs over with him and because Panthers wont pay up he's going to change his mind? or either they have said beforehand yes you can bring the dog & now the club have backed out. If true I'm a bit gobsmacked to be honest, quite laughable.
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Post by iginla on May 17, 2016 23:22:01 GMT
So you seriously think that after signing the contract he then decides he wants to bring the dogs over with him and because Panthers wont pay up he's going to change his mind? or either they have said beforehand yes you can bring them & now the club have backed out. I true I'm a bit gobsmacked to be honest, quite laughable. It may be true EMB,but i can't see him backing out because of it,GM wouldn't let that happen in this case. Mr Black may well have said I'm not paying for a dog,but the way it works depends on who you are. If it was a player GM isn't fussed about they wouldn't pay it. But for GMs favourites like Cam,the ones who sell tickets,do interviews and like the media attention,then the brown envelope would come out to cover it. Haven't you ever wondered where certain cash you pay goes,he likes his slush fund does GM !
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Post by titch on May 18, 2016 0:21:30 GMT
Captain positive here; People saying how Steelers have upgraded last season, did you not see all their retirements? What did you expect from a CHL team? Who says their players will stay after they've been destroyed in the CHL? Stop worrying about what the Yorkshire puddings are doing. Panthers have a big budget to offer new players and I fully expect that to happen soon. Betteridge is a great player who will make an impact, just you watch him. Did everybody not notice the Brown signing? This guy is pumped up and already proud to be playing for the Panthers, sometimes passion can trump pure skill. The only negative thing for me is that if Cam actually does back out of his contact as rumored, we could then be in for a long season ahead! Oh dear.....LOL I don't know where to start,so I won't bother ! Secretly you love me, don't deny it.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on May 18, 2016 5:28:39 GMT
So you seriously think that after signing the contract he then decides he wants to bring the dogs over with him and because Panthers wont pay up he's going to change his mind? or either they have said beforehand yes you can bring the dog & now the club have backed out. If true I'm a bit gobsmacked to be honest, quite laughable. If that was the case I would be happy to pay for Cam's dogs to come over myself and they wouldn't have to wear "Sponsored By..." collars either.
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Post by deke on May 18, 2016 7:40:54 GMT
They will need to, this is a pretty big uncertainty at the moment they need a big bums on seats season ticket seller when we signed some of our key players back that would have started it off. They now need a big one to say to the other teams we mean business we are here to compete for the title. At the moment the squad shouts we will participate. Well this upcoming season is my first as a season ticket holder and I can definitely say Cam has been a big force in me wanting to go week in week out. You're right that a player can put bums on seats and I'm sure the sales would go up if they made some good signings/resignings. Not going to lie I bought a season ticket because I knew bam bam was back! The guy is a checking machine. With a new signing like him again this season they will help themselves. At the moment however sales are likely to have stalled. Too many big players going out and no huge signing to replace them. Personally if I hadn't bought one I may have been put off by Corey instead of saying we have someone we are looking at, saying essentially betteridge is the replacement. I like the guy don't get me wrong but in a season where we disappointed in the league why downgrade a position?
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Post by Yotes on May 18, 2016 9:28:37 GMT
Oh dear.....LOL I don't know where to start,so I won't bother ! Secretly you love me, don't deny it. I see Coventry have signed Liam Stewart, counts as a non-work permit import, but seems like a decent signing. Plus they can probably get Rod to do a ceremonial puck drop.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 13:50:42 GMT
Haha, I thought it was Braehead that wanted a team of Brendan Brooks, not Cov wanting a team of Stewarts. Perhaps it's for when we shout "Steeeewaaart" their fans can come back with: "Whiiiich ooone?"
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Post by Judda on May 19, 2016 8:29:24 GMT
Not going to lie I bought a season ticket because I knew bam bam was back! The guy is a checking machine. With a new signing like him again this season they will help themselves. At the moment however sales are likely to have stalled. Too many big players going out and no huge signing to replace them. Personally if I hadn't bought one I may have been put off by Corey instead of saying we have someone we are looking at, saying essentially betteridge is the replacement. I like the guy don't get me wrong but in a season where we disappointed in the league why downgrade a position? couldn't agree more tbh not happy with the way transfers/signings are being done atm
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Post by PantherB on May 19, 2016 9:39:23 GMT
Did people see Betteridge play this season or is everyone just assuming he's still a small time player who's here because he's a Nottingham lad?
I have a lot of faith in the kid and I think he'll play the Myers role very well. Betteridge is very keen to play and try and turn heads, he's quick and isn't scared of the rough, gritty stuff. He deserves a lot more respect than people are giving him. People are far too judgemental and unwilling to give anyone a chance, it's ridiculous
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Post by wgray on May 19, 2016 10:55:39 GMT
Did people see Betteridge play this season or is everyone just assuming he's still a small time player who's here because he's a Nottingham lad? I have a lot of faith in the kid and I think he'll play the Myers role very well. Betteridge is very keen to play and try and turn heads, he's quick and isn't scared of the rough, gritty stuff. He deserves a lot more respect than people are giving him. People are far too judgemental and unwilling to give anyone a chance, it's ridiculous I agree with everything you say, one question that we do need to consider though is how is he going to fit in in terms of the position he plays?
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Post by Yotes on May 19, 2016 11:03:51 GMT
Did people see Betteridge play this season Rarely.
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Post by deke on May 19, 2016 12:40:37 GMT
Look I'm sure the guy will be a good player for us but to expect him to replace a key player straight off screams of penny pinching from Corey. The guy got so little ice time last season and now he replaces a key player? Not reasonable by all means give him more ice time but suggesting, yup we don't need a replacement, ollie will do. Its nonsense and it's setting the bar massively high. I think personally Corey realises he can't let another gb player through his fingers as he will have enough problems getting good gb players in. So as a result has given ollie assurances of big ice time to keep him
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Post by dill1015 on May 19, 2016 13:00:16 GMT
Look I'm sure the guy will be a good player for us but to expect him to replace a key player straight off screams of penny pinching from Corey. The guy got so little ice time last season and now he replaces a key player? Not reasonable by all means give him more ice time but suggesting, yup we don't need a replacement, ollie will do. Its nonsense and it's setting the bar massively high. I think personally Corey realises he can't let another gb player through his fingers as he will have enough problems getting good gb players in. So as a result has given ollie assurances of big ice time to keep him It all depends on the overall team. For example: If we swap Myers, Mosey and Bohmbach for Betterridge, Ling and Fox from 4 seasons ago. Thats an upgrade. So im still waiting to see overall team before passing judgement on this move. Im not pushing the 'panic' buttom yet, but i am pushing the 'slightly concerned and really wish Panthers would make a big signing to settle me down' button.
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Post by tim27 on May 19, 2016 13:00:57 GMT
Look I'm sure the guy will be a good player for us but to expect him to replace a key player straight off screams of penny pinching from Corey. The guy got so little ice time last season and now he replaces a key player? Not reasonable by all means give him more ice time but suggesting, yup we don't need a replacement, ollie will do. Its nonsense and it's setting the bar massively high. I think personally Corey realises he can't let another gb player through his fingers as he will have enough problems getting good gb players in. So as a result has given ollie assurances of big ice time to keep him Somehow I think that was testing him. Not letting the fact he is playing for panthers go to his head. Corey probably wanted to test him to see how he would react. He would of wanted him to be disappointed but not stroppy, be a team player etc. Betteridge has has the ability for playing a regular shift. But he still has a lot to learn.
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Post by iginla on May 19, 2016 13:02:24 GMT
The problem isn't with Ollie and what he can or can't do,the problem is with Neilson and the Panthers. Last year Ollie was only given probably 15 minutes of ice time in the entire season,yet this year he is suddenly being touted by Corey and expected to do the job of a seasoned and very effective player in Myers. It just isn't going to happen.
The difference between what Ollie gets paid and what Myers got paid will be very substantial. If that money saving is spent on upgrading imports then fine,but with only a few imports left to sign now we certainly haven't seen it happen yet.
We are looking distinctly average at the moment,very average indeed !
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Post by deke on May 19, 2016 13:20:11 GMT
Agreed. Panthers need to sign big because no way will the teams take us seriously at this point. If Last seasons team couldn't win the title or come close, so far this team will be lucky to achieve any cups or even get 5th in the league
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