BigLad
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Post by BigLad on Jul 4, 2016 9:19:03 GMT
Fantastic signing by the Caps.
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Post by PantherB on Jul 4, 2016 11:54:16 GMT
People are reading too much into Staal's name.
He's a great addition to Caps and would be pretty good for other EIHL teams but he isn't an 'unbelievable' signing or anything too good for the league. He's a solid defensive forward who can, with the right players, score a few too but his defensive side is much more prominent than his offensive side. He's a great locker room guy and doesn't see the fact his brothers are career NHL'ers as a burden, he did when turning pro but it doesn't bother him too much anymore and he's focused on making the best of his ability. With that being said, speed and motivation are said to be an issue sometimes but besides those, he looks solid. Comparible to Myers or MacMillan, probably in the middle.
He should do well, Caps seem to be strengthening their defensive side of things and this is a boost. I'd assume Staal has jumped over the pond to earn more money and try and find somewhere in mainland Europe.
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nate24
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Post by nate24 on Jul 4, 2016 13:36:15 GMT
If the players are worried about the fluctuating pound why not just to agree to pay them at least partially in dollars so that whatever happens to the pound it does not matter and they get some sterling for living expenses.
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nate24
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Post by nate24 on Jul 4, 2016 13:39:02 GMT
Jared Staal to Edinburgh. Can't see him sticking the whole season if I'm honest, think if he has a good start to the season either a bigger EIHL team will come calling or Europe. He is a good player for sure and probably beyond our league but he is not the same pedigree as the other Staal brothers and has dined out a lot on his name. He may stick around the EIHL if the deals are right. We have had better players play in our league long term.
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Shorty
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Post by Shorty on Jul 4, 2016 14:20:08 GMT
If the players are worried about the fluctuating pound why not just to agree to pay them at least partially in dollars so that whatever happens to the pound it does not matter and they get some sterling for living expenses. Whilst some clubs could cope with fluctuations in the exchange rate, some of the smaller ones could be hit.
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Ghost
Matt Myers
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Post by Ghost on Jul 4, 2016 16:53:55 GMT
Jared Staal to Edinburgh. Can't see him sticking the whole season if I'm honest, think if he has a good start to the season either a bigger EIHL team will come calling or Europe. He is a good player for sure and probably beyond our league but he is not the same pedigree as the other Staal brothers and has dined out a lot on his name. He may stick around the EIHL if the deals are right. We have had better players play in our league long term. Why is he above our league?
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Pies
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Post by Pies on Jul 4, 2016 21:00:04 GMT
If his surname wasn't Staal, we wouldn't even be discussing this signing.
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nate24
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Post by nate24 on Jul 4, 2016 21:56:22 GMT
If his surname wasn't Staal, we wouldn't even be discussing this signing. Yes we would as we would any player with NHL time under his belt. If his name wasn't Staal people wouldn't be a able to pretend it's cool not to appreciate a player with NHL experience joining the league.
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nate24
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Post by nate24 on Jul 4, 2016 21:57:21 GMT
If the players are worried about the fluctuating pound why not just to agree to pay them at least partially in dollars so that whatever happens to the pound it does not matter and they get some sterling for living expenses. Whilst some clubs could cope with fluctuations in the exchange rate, some of the smaller ones could be hit. There must be a way around it. Bit coin!
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Ghost
Matt Myers
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Post by Ghost on Jul 4, 2016 22:07:34 GMT
If his surname wasn't Staal, we wouldn't even be discussing this signing. Yes we would as we would any player with NHL time under his belt. If his name wasn't Staal people wouldn't be a able to pretend it's cool not to appreciate a player with NHL experience joining the league. 2 games of NHL time to be exact. I'm with pies on this one.
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iginla
Chick Zamick
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Post by iginla on Jul 4, 2016 22:08:40 GMT
Whilst some clubs could cope with fluctuations in the exchange rate, some of the smaller ones could be hit. There must be a way around it. Bit coin! Crikey,with the wages 90% of the imports are on over here it wouldn't exactly make mega money difference even if the pound dropped 10%. And as for all the high end earners in the league.......Sheffield can afford it !
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iginla
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Post by iginla on Jul 4, 2016 22:11:06 GMT
Yes we would as we would any player with NHL time under his belt. If his name wasn't Staal people wouldn't be a able to pretend it's cool not to appreciate a player with NHL experience joining the league. 2 games of NHL time to be exact. I'm with pies on this one. So am i. Wouldn't want that resume as one of Panthers last two import forwards !
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Pies
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Post by Pies on Jul 4, 2016 22:11:29 GMT
If his surname wasn't Staal, we wouldn't even be discussing this signing. Yes we would as we would any player with NHL time under his belt. If his name wasn't Staal people wouldn't be a able to pretend it's cool not to appreciate a player with NHL experience joining the league. He played 2 games in the NHL which is fine but it's not even close to the calibre of standards we've seen over here. His ECHL points out put isn't great and that's usually a good indicator in this league. Had he signed for us, I wouldn't have been ecstatic. I rate Vorobyov as a better signing for them. Someone with a genuine NHL experience.
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Pies
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Post by Pies on Jul 4, 2016 22:19:06 GMT
2 games of NHL time to be exact. I'm with pies on this one. So am i. Wouldn't want that resume as one of Panthers last two import forwards ! First time for everything eh!
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Jul 4, 2016 22:23:52 GMT
Yes we would as we would any player with NHL time under his belt. If his name wasn't Staal people wouldn't be a able to pretend it's cool not to appreciate a player with NHL experience joining the league. He played 2 games in the NHL which is fine but it's not even close to the calibre of standards we've seen over here. His ECHL points out put isn't great and that's usually a good indicator in this league. Had he signed for us, I wouldn't have been ecstatic. I rate Vorobyov as a better signing for them. Someone with a genuine NHL experience. At the very best I think Staal could have a similar offensive impact to Doug Clarkson in this league and at Edinburgh (getting plenty of ice time). Vorobyev I can quite easily see scoring at a similar & possibly higher rate the Hayes was.
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nate24
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Post by nate24 on Jul 5, 2016 9:24:30 GMT
There must be a way around it. Bit coin! Crikey,with the wages 90% of the imports are on over here it wouldn't exactly make mega money difference even if the pound dropped 10%. And as for all the high end earners in the league.......Sheffield can afford it ! I did think this but my knowledge of economics isn't the greatest so assumed I missed the point. I kinda felt it was just an excuse when I first read it.
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Kirk55
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Post by Kirk55 on Jul 5, 2016 11:37:36 GMT
Wow, massive signing for them, in case you don't know He is one of four brothers, the others being Eric, Jordan and Marc, you might want to look them up...
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Post by PantherB on Jul 5, 2016 12:36:11 GMT
Yes we would as we would any player with NHL time under his belt. If his name wasn't Staal people wouldn't be a able to pretend it's cool not to appreciate a player with NHL experience joining the league. He played 2 games in the NHL which is fine but it's not even close to the calibre of standards we've seen over here. His ECHL points out put isn't great and that's usually a good indicator in this league. Had he signed for us, I wouldn't have been ecstatic. I rate Vorobyov as a better signing for them. Someone with a genuine NHL experience. his points output isn't great because he isn't an offensive forward. He's a defensive player, big and gritty.. He's the Logan MacMillan/Jeff Brown of Caps, so I'd expect him to do quite well and play an important role. He wouldn't be a very underwhelming signing for any team in the league really, you can do better but you can do a whole lot worse. He's a Staal so talent is in his blood. It's just utilising it and getting it out of him which may be the tricky part, but I've heard things from fans in Charlotte, South Carolina that he played his role well. He shouldn't be overhyped with his name, expecting him to tear it up.. But he shouldn't be totally dismissed because of stats which don't stand out, because he isn't a points player.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 14:22:54 GMT
Wow, massive signing for them, in case you don't know He is one of four brothers, the others being Eric, Jordan and Marc, you might want to look them up... Thanks for the info, I didn't know until others pointed it out in another thread and thusly I did a bit of reading. I see why the fuss had been made now lol.
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iginla
Chick Zamick
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Post by iginla on Jul 5, 2016 17:09:47 GMT
Why are we fussing over this signing,his stats are fairly poor ? Wonder why we didn't get Staal.......especially as he is related to ex Panther Jeff Heerema ?
Think that says something !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 17:18:56 GMT
Wow, massive signing for them, in case you don't know He is one of four brothers, the others being Eric, Jordan and Marc, you might want to look them up... & he's no where near as good as them.
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iginla
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Post by iginla on Jul 5, 2016 17:33:13 GMT
Wow, massive signing for them, in case you don't know He is one of four brothers, the others being Eric, Jordan and Marc, you might want to look them up... & he's no where near as good as them. Indeed Jordan. Mmmm remember Shaun Sutter,he came from a real hockey dynasty. What was it,six of them,five of them played in the NHL,the other one won the lottery.......and then there was the one Panthers signed,Shaun ! Lol
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deke
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Post by deke on Jul 5, 2016 19:22:30 GMT
Don't want him glad we haven't got him, wrong sort of player, just realised in a few days it will have been a month since we signed anyone at all! Still waiting on that big signing, hope it comes soon and is a genuine stud player.how many players are we short again? If kolnik re signs i hope he is sure we can't afford to lose him part way through like ling. Needs to make up his mind quickly though. I'm guessing Corey has someone big lined up as a replacement just in case, I have a niggling fear the player will be a cheap signing and lower calibre, would a player of the same calibre as kolnik be happy waiting and seeing?
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iginla
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Post by iginla on Jul 5, 2016 20:11:25 GMT
Don't want him glad we haven't got him, wrong sort of player, just realised in a few days it will have been a month since we signed anyone at all! Still waiting on that big signing, hope it comes soon and is a genuine stud player.how many players are we short again? If kolnik re signs i hope he is sure we can't afford to lose him part way through like ling. Needs to make up his mind quickly though. I'm guessing Corey has someone big lined up as a replacement just in case, I have a niggling fear the player will be a cheap signing and lower calibre, would a player of the same calibre as kolnik be happy waiting and seeing? Yes time is certainly ticking away quickly now. We certainly need a Kolnik or better,but I can see us getting a lesser somebody like Sean Bentavoglio. I would love to see Kolnik back,but unless he is already signed and GM is just playing games again,then it says to me that if he hasn't made his mind up very soon,then we shouldn't be re signing him !
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Post by shmyrohdear on Jul 5, 2016 20:14:35 GMT
Don't want him glad we haven't got him, wrong sort of player, just realised in a few days it will have been a month since we signed anyone at all! Still waiting on that big signing, hope it comes soon and is a genuine stud player.how many players are we short again? If kolnik re signs i hope he is sure we can't afford to lose him part way through like ling. Needs to make up his mind quickly though. I'm guessing Corey has someone big lined up as a replacement just in case, I have a niggling fear the player will be a cheap signing and lower calibre, would a player of the same calibre as kolnik be happy waiting and seeing? It's the start of July, i do not understand the impatience on the signing front. Let guys spend some time with family, it's not been that long aince the NA season finished and a lot from Europe or here will be taking the time off to be home. We never finish our roster before mid august anyway. Negotiations will be underway it's normal. Regarding Kolnik i don't see him signing, if he's anything less than 100% committed to being here for the whole season i wouldn't want him here given our blunders with cover signings in the past.
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