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Post by PantherB on Jun 10, 2016 21:11:05 GMT
His wife insisted he stayed with Panthers, for the money and being back in Nottingham i'd guess but Myers didn't want to be away from his family for another 2 years. With her having a full time job in Cardiff, it was only a matter of time before this happened and it's better to have happened after the season has ended rather than in the middle. As I said. What a wuss. He should have told her to get a job in Notts. I wouldn't call prioritising the most important thing in life being a 'wuss'. His wife has a stable job in Cardiff, the place where her family and Myers' family live.. Expecting him to put his foot down and refuse to return to Cardiff would likely see a breakdown in the relationships with his wife and family. I'm glad Myers is back with Cardiff, he's a quality player and it'd be a shame for him to leave the league or retire. He's a proper family man and a role model for the youngsters. It is a shame to see him go and not be eligible for his Testimonial but he'll always be a player highly regarded amongst our fans and the organisation after everything he did for us, it was only right we abided by his needs and did right by him. Something Panthers isn't exactly known for.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 21:56:10 GMT
Lambasting him and suggesting he isn't a proper bloke for not forcing his wife to move isn't exactly fair. He put his family first as he should do. Some players are happy to move around he commuted from Cardiff for us for a year. The other option for panthers was to refuse to let him out of the contract what then? A very unhappy player who will do nothing for us. Yes, but why is he unhappy.
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Post by dill1015 on Jun 10, 2016 21:58:16 GMT
Im 26, dont have a wife, dont even have a steady relationship... Even i can tell you that your family come first! Seriously anyone suggesting that Mathew is out of line here needs to have a long hard look in the mirror and get thier priorites sorted. Grow up. The guy has been a great servant to the club and moving for him families sake isn't going to change that. Wish it wasnt the case but thats life.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 22:00:55 GMT
As I said. What a wuss. He should have told her to get a job in Notts. I wouldn't call prioritising the most important thing in life being a 'wuss'. His wife has a stable job in Cardiff, the place where her family and Myers' family live.. Expecting him to put his foot down and refuse to return to Cardiff would likely see a breakdown in the relationships with his wife and family. I'm glad Myers is back with Cardiff, he's a quality player and it'd be a shame for him to leave the league or retire. He's a proper family man and a role model for the youngsters. It is a shame to see him go and not be eligible for his Testimonial but he'll always be a player highly regarded amongst our fans and the organisation after everything he did for us, it was only right we abided by his needs and did right by him. Something Panthers isn't exactly known for. Myers has history for this. He followed his wife to Cardiff, he fell out with Cardiff's GM & then came back to us, he then runs back to his wife. Basically we've been used as a trial period to see if Matt can handle/is allowed to be away from his wife. He isn't, he goes back..... & then we let him without any hassle because we're such a lovely & friendly club. (Iginla, I'm with you on this bit, potentially).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 22:05:21 GMT
Im 26, dont have a wife, dont even have a steady relationship... Even i can tell you that your family come first! Seriously anyone suggesting that Mathew is out of line here needs to have a long hard look in the mirror and get thier priorites sorted. Grow up. The guy has been a great servant to the club and moving for him families sake isn't going to change that. Wish it wasnt the case but thats life. Agree that family come first, there's two sides to a marriage though. Well there's supposed to be anyway. Myers has chosen to tell the whole league who wears the trousers, twice. Wonder what Sheffield would have said if he told them he wanted to go back to Cardiff, would Tony Smith have been so gregarious?
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Post by deke on Jun 10, 2016 22:15:03 GMT
I never said he was unhappy I said if we forced him to stay he would be unhappy. We have no idea what discussion went on, his wife could have said she wanted him to stay with us we simply don't know. The man has correctly put his family first, if you say you wouldn't do that then it reveals more about you than it does about him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 22:15:27 GMT
Another thing.... Sure I post in jest a little tonight over this & I am kidding a little bit.....
But, some of you may recall when Myers was announced as replacing Boxhill last season I was riled. I just didn't get it. I clearly forgot though just what a completely brilliant pest Myers was & how fantastically well Corey used him. We've lost such a good player here for our 'system'. This one is really, really going to hurt. More than many here realise.
I doubt Cardiff will get the best out of him like Corey seems to, they didn't last time for my money. Hell, half of their forum weren't fussed about him leaving.... Until he was gone.
I bet my last 10p that many posters will, come November time, be saying we really miss a Matt Myers type player.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 22:17:01 GMT
I never said he was unhappy I said if we forced him to stay he would be unhappy. We have no idea what discussion went on, his wife could have said she wanted him to stay with us we simply don't know. The man has correctly put his family first, if you say you wouldn't do that then it reveals more about you than it does about him. Why would he potentially be unhappy.
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Post by deke on Jun 10, 2016 22:20:33 GMT
Hmm. Forced to play for us when he wants to be in Cardiff with his wife..... Your right he would be thrilled. Why do you think he would be unhappy. In that situation he would play poorly as his heart and his head would be elsewhere.
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Post by iginla on Jun 10, 2016 22:20:40 GMT
Im 26, dont have a wife, dont even have a steady relationship... Even i can tell you that your family come first! Seriously anyone suggesting that Mathew is out of line here needs to have a long hard look in the mirror and get thier priorites sorted. Grow up. The guy has been a great servant to the club and moving for him families sake isn't going to change that. Wish it wasnt the case but thats life. Agree that family come first, there's two sides to a marriage though. Well there's supposed to be anyway. Myers has chosen to tell the whole league who wears the trousers, twice. Wonder what Sheffield would have said if he told them he wanted to go back to Cardiff, would Tony Smith have been so gregarious? I reckon we know the answer to that one Jordan. The other difference is Panthers would probably say "thanks Matthew you've just saved us £700 a week cos we won't/can't replace you", whereas Sheffield would say either "you're not going" or "right we've got an extra £700 a week now to spend on an import,so instead of a good one,we will go and get a ridiculously good one" !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 22:23:21 GMT
Hmm. Forced to play for us when he wants to be in Cardiff with his wife..... Your right he would be thrilled. Why do you think he would be unhappy. In that situation he would play poorly as his heart and his head would be elsewhere. So he'd be unhappy because of his wife, yes?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 22:29:30 GMT
Agree that family come first, there's two sides to a marriage though. Well there's supposed to be anyway. Myers has chosen to tell the whole league who wears the trousers, twice. Wonder what Sheffield would have said if he told them he wanted to go back to Cardiff, would Tony Smith have been so gregarious? I reckon we know the answer to that one Jordan. The other difference is Panthers would probably say "thanks Matthew you've just saved us £700 a week cos we won't/can't replace you", whereas Sheffield would say either "you're not going" or "right we've got an extra £700 a week now to spend on an import,so instead of a good one,we will go and get a ridiculously good one" ! My point was would Sheffield have let him go as merrily as we seem to have. Who they brought in to replace is immaterial, imo.
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Post by iginla on Jun 10, 2016 22:38:00 GMT
I reckon we know the answer to that one Jordan. The other difference is Panthers would probably say "thanks Matthew you've just saved us £700 a week cos we won't/can't replace you", whereas Sheffield would say either "you're not going" or "right we've got an extra £700 a week now to spend on an import,so instead of a good one,we will go and get a ridiculously good one" ! My point was would Sheffield have let him go as merrily as we seem to have. Who they brought in to replace is immaterial, imo. NO i bet they wouldn't. We almost seemed happy about it though,like the club were patting themselves on the back for being nice ! Did Panthers really need to advertise that bit of the negotiation ? Matt Myers was one of my favourite players,i partly understand him going,but reading that really naffed me off !
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Post by dill1015 on Jun 10, 2016 22:43:56 GMT
Im 26, dont have a wife, dont even have a steady relationship... Even i can tell you that your family come first! Seriously anyone suggesting that Mathew is out of line here needs to have a long hard look in the mirror a nd get thier priorites sorted. Grow up. The guy has been a great servant to the club and moving for him families sake isn't going to change that. Wish it wasnt the case but thats life. Agree that family come first, there's two sides to a marriage though. Well there's supposed to be anyway. Myers has chosen to tell the whole league who wears the trousers, twice. Wonder what Sheffield would have said if he told them he wanted to go back to Cardiff, would Tony Smith have been so gregarious? Exactly there's 2 sides Matts and his wifes. And they chose one. Probably the one thats best for their kids, finances and personal life. I just dont see how people and have a go at the bloke. Its not like he ditched us for Cardiff because they were waving the cash. This was clearly a personal choice. Also by all accounts his wife activley encouraged Myers to see out his contract. That doesn't sound like she forced his hand to me. It was his choice and i dont for a second hold that against him, its his life.
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Post by iginla on Jun 10, 2016 22:47:25 GMT
Agree that family come first, there's two sides to a marriage though. Well there's supposed to be anyway. Myers has chosen to tell the whole league who wears the trousers, twice. Wonder what Sheffield would have said if he told them he wanted to go back to Cardiff, would Tony Smith have been so gregarious? Exactly there's 2 sides Matts and his wifes. And they chose one. Probably the one thats best for their kids, finances and personal life. I just dont see how people and have a go at the bloke. Its not like he ditched us for Cardiff because they were waving the cash. This was clearly a personal choice. Also by all accounts his wife activley encouraged Myers to see out his contract. That doesn't sound like she forced his hand to me. It was his choice and i dont for a second hold that against him, its his life. They haven't got any kids. And how do you know Cardiff didn't offer him more cash ? Don't believe all you read,certainly in the hockey world !
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Post by PantherB on Jun 10, 2016 22:48:41 GMT
I wouldn't call prioritising the most important thing in life being a 'wuss'. His wife has a stable job in Cardiff, the place where her family and Myers' family live.. Expecting him to put his foot down and refuse to return to Cardiff would likely see a breakdown in the relationships with his wife and family. I'm glad Myers is back with Cardiff, he's a quality player and it'd be a shame for him to leave the league or retire. He's a proper family man and a role model for the youngsters. It is a shame to see him go and not be eligible for his Testimonial but he'll always be a player highly regarded amongst our fans and the organisation after everything he did for us, it was only right we abided by his needs and did right by him. Something Panthers isn't exactly known for. Myers has history for this. He followed his wife to Cardiff, he fell out with Cardiff's GM & then came back to us, he then runs back to his wife. Basically we've been used as a trial period to see if Matt can handle/is allowed to be away from his wife. He isn't, he goes back..... & then we let him without any hassle because we're such a lovely & friendly club. (Iginla, I'm with you on this bit, potentially). You seem to be suggesting that Myers' wife has forced it or controlled him.. Which isn't the case. His wife wanted him to stay with us, she knows what Panthers means to him and what he means to our fans and was willing to let him see his contract out. Myers took it upon himself to do the right thing for his future and return to his family. It's not like he left with the attitude of 'sorry but I'm going to play for Devils now'.. It's taken a few months for him to work things out with Devils after considering his own options, as far as Myers is concerned he's playing to provide for his family and please the fans, problems with management will just have to be dealt with because again, he's doing the right thing and putting his family first. Perhaps looking deeper into it than 'he used us.. He's got no balls' would be a better option? Because quite frankly it's ridiculous to even think about saying that stuff about him, especially when you know nothing about the actual reasons (I assume).
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Post by Rob Scott on Jun 10, 2016 22:53:51 GMT
Whatever the reasons he's gone, we've known for a long time that he was going so I expect us to have a replacement lined up.
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Post by iginla on Jun 10, 2016 23:09:14 GMT
Whatever the reasons he's gone, we've known for a long time that he was going so I expect us to have a replacement lined up. We should certainly expect to see a replacement,with Davies seemingly the only decent option now left on the shelf. If we haven't,then if we don't sign at least one stellar import,then we have been shortchanged !
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Post by dill1015 on Jun 10, 2016 23:13:06 GMT
Whatever the reasons he's gone, we've known for a long time that he was going so I expect us to have a replacement lined up. You cant replace Myers like for like because no other brit does what he does. But i reckon Jeff brown will do a lot of his role and if we get Davies he will off set the loss of point quite well. Either way i still wish we had Matty. Would make thing so much easier.
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Post by panthers_nyr on Jun 10, 2016 23:19:40 GMT
With the strong(ish) rumour of Davies signing at either Devills or us and with Myers now signed at Devils maybe we see Davies come in as Myers' replacement for us instead of going to Devils now Myers has signed with them. I'd like to hope so anyway..
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Post by iginla on Jun 10, 2016 23:30:35 GMT
With the strong(ish) rumour of Davies signing at either Devills or us and with Myers now signed at Devils maybe we see Davies come in as Myers' replacement for us instead of going to Devils now Myers has signed with them. I'd like to hope so anyway.. It would be nice to think we will get Davies,but if we don't and he goes to Cardiff too we are going to look rather silly aren't we. Jack Prince would have done a job but we let Manchester snap him up......perhaps they asked if we minded first though so that would be ok ! My guess is we signed Davies ages ago and Moran is playing silly beggars again.
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Post by panthers_nyr on Jun 11, 2016 0:09:24 GMT
With the strong(ish) rumour of Davies signing at either Devills or us and with Myers now signed at Devils maybe we see Davies come in as Myers' replacement for us instead of going to Devils now Myers has signed with them. I'd like to hope so anyway.. It would be nice to think we will get Davies,but if we don't and he goes to Cardiff too we are going to look rather silly aren't we. Jack Prince would have done a job but we let Manchester snap him up......perhaps they asked if we minded first though so that would be ok ! My guess is we signed Davies ages ago and Moran is playing silly beggars again. I hope that is the case.
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Post by fishman on Jun 11, 2016 8:57:39 GMT
Panther's are well and truly stuffed, Myers will tell of plan A the only plan they had last season,. lol
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Post by jdizpt8 on Jun 11, 2016 9:11:51 GMT
With Matt gone you can argue the reason until you're blue in the face but the fact still remains he's gone. If Davies is coming in then in my opinion we've got ourselves a decent player. he's not the same player as Myers but as previously mentioned Brown can do that roll. in Davies we'd have a tenacious player who's got a lot of grit to his games, id be more then happy to see him don the black and yellow . . . i mean "gold"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 11:02:38 GMT
Agree that family come first, there's two sides to a marriage though. Well there's supposed to be anyway. Myers has chosen to tell the whole league who wears the trousers, twice. Wonder what Sheffield would have said if he told them he wanted to go back to Cardiff, would Tony Smith have been so gregarious? Exactly there's 2 sides Matts and his wifes. And they chose one. Probably the one thats best for their kids, finances and personal life. I just dont see how people and have a go at the bloke. Its not like he ditched us for Cardiff because they were waving the cash. This was clearly a personal choice. Also by all accounts his wife activley encouraged Myers to see out his contract. That doesn't sound like she forced his hand to me. It was his choice and i dont for a second hold that against him, its his life. Tell me more about their kids, please.
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