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Post by pantherdman on Apr 29, 2016 5:16:27 GMT
Got to sign the full quota plus spares or we may as well not bother at all. Injuries have cost us every season since the slam.
Mean while steelers go with 4 lines, 2 apprentices and 2 coaches......
Compete for fudges sake
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Post by Penaltybox on May 1, 2016 9:14:10 GMT
What is it with people on here saying sign spares before the season starts. Corey will have a set budget. He will spend that budget to get the best players he can within that budget. Signing two spares will just mean he has less to offer top players on wages.
Who is going to come here to play as a spare for injury cover? At this stage of pre season if your any good you would be looking at signing onto a team to play regular hockey.
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Post by iginla on May 1, 2016 14:49:11 GMT
What is it with people on here saying sign spares before the season starts. Corey will have a set budget. He will spend that budget to get the best players he can within that budget. Signing two spares will just mean he has less to offer top players on wages. Who is going to come here to play as a spare for injury cover? At this stage of pre season if your any good you would be looking at signing onto a team to play regular hockey. Have you got the faintest idea of how ice hockey,or pretty much any team sport works. It's called competition for places,Jesus players over here have it dead cushy,they know they could take a whole weekend off and still be in the team next week,because there is nobody to steal their spot. Teams the world over have loads of healthy scratches every game. Ask Matt Myers how he got on in the East Coast league,wasn't injured yet played about TEN games all season long. As for who is going to come here to warm the bench. Go ask Sheffields spares,or Cardiffs,or Belfasts from last year,I didn't see any of those crying or going home because they wern't playing. Corey has a budget yes.....the budget isn't what it should be in Pantherland,that's the problem !
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Post by Penaltybox on May 1, 2016 16:35:14 GMT
Corey has a budget. So we agree on something. Corey spends that budget on what he sees as his best team. If that means he spends more money on one player like ling, rather than a bench warmer fine by me. Where has it been stated what the budget is? Where has it been stated the budget isn't what it should be?
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Post by Shorty on May 1, 2016 17:15:08 GMT
Some Cardiff fans will tell you that their problems arose when they signed those extra imports, that it ruined the team dynamic and they won nothing.
As for Myers, he played 28 games, split between two teams in the ECHL, and missed the last 8 weeks of the season injured.
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Post by thebestpanthers on May 1, 2016 18:01:23 GMT
Some Cardiff fans will tell you that their problems arose when they signed those extra imports, that it ruined the team dynamic and they won nothing. As for Myers, he played 28 games, split between two teams in the ECHL, and missed the last 8 weeks of the season injured. Please do not spoil Iginla's argument by quoting facts - it is unfair
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 18:04:29 GMT
Some Cardiff fans will tell you that their problems arose when they signed those extra imports, that it ruined the team dynamic and they won nothing. As for Myers, he played 28 games, split between two teams in the ECHL, and missed the last 8 weeks of the season injured. Please do not spoil Iginla's argument by quoting facts - it is unfair Lol. Funny post dude.
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Post by iginla on May 1, 2016 22:43:44 GMT
Some Cardiff fans will tell you that their problems arose when they signed those extra imports, that it ruined the team dynamic and they won nothing. As for Myers, he played 28 games, split between two teams in the ECHL, and missed the last 8 weeks of the season injured. Please do not spoil Iginla's argument by quoting facts - it is unfair Considering the East Coast schedule was 70 odd games I'd say my point was proved......he sat on the bench as a healthy scratch for half a season. Something some people say players won't do. They will sit elsewhere and they do,the EIHL is a cushy place for players at present. Strange how Panthers won the grand slam with Beauregard sitting in the wings as a spare wasn't it ? But then again,I do hate to quote FACTS !!!!!!
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Post by Shorty on May 2, 2016 5:56:45 GMT
He was left out for around 20 games at Bakersfield and asked for a transfer as he was not playing. He was not happy being a healthy scratch.
Out of the next 40 odd games for Johnstown he played 22 out and missed virtually all the rest through injury.
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Post by Rob Scott on May 2, 2016 6:13:36 GMT
He was left out for around 20 games at Bakersfield and asked for a transfer as he was not playing. He was not happy being a healthy scratch. Out of the next 40 odd games for Johnstown he played 22 out and missed virtually all the rest through injury. So he was a healthy scratch on numerous occasions in the ECHL.
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Post by Shorty on May 2, 2016 8:02:15 GMT
He was left out for around 20 games at Bakersfield and asked for a transfer as he was not playing. He was not happy being a healthy scratch. Out of the next 40 odd games for Johnstown he played 22 out and missed virtually all the rest through injury. So he was a healthy scratch on numerous occasions in the ECHL. And then requested a transfer.
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Post by Bagheera on May 2, 2016 8:46:37 GMT
Quite suprised it hasn't been discussed more as yet(unless i've missed it). Already posted in rosters thread by Pantherb. panthers.co.uk/players20145
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Post by EMB on May 2, 2016 9:07:02 GMT
An updated Roster Page on the OS; www.panthers.co.uk/players20145 Reveals the suspicions that Jeff Dimmen, Geoff Waugh, Steve Lee and Robert Farmer are all under contract into next season, as well of course, as all others included in the current list on here. And no mention of Strachen....yet. Rumour at the playoffs was that Corey wanted to go it alone this season, not sure what I make of that, I always saw them as the Clough & Taylor of hockey.
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Post by fishman on May 2, 2016 9:15:16 GMT
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Post by iginla on May 2, 2016 10:38:17 GMT
We have tried to get him before when DAB was here,he wouldn't come at the time. But,you know how Corey likes a player who's "been on his radar for some years".....then we get him when he's either injured,too old or fancies a cushy life and a degree !!!
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Post by fishman on May 2, 2016 11:20:05 GMT
Iginla, your beginning to sound a little negative. lol
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Post by iginla on May 2, 2016 12:59:04 GMT
Iginla, your beginning to sound a little negative. lol # Mark Lee !!!!!!!
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Post by fishman on May 2, 2016 16:53:51 GMT
Iginla, your beginning to sound a little negative. lol # Mark Lee !!!!!!! je ne le connais pas
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Post by iginla on May 2, 2016 17:27:11 GMT
We signed Mark Lee,Corey said he had been on his radar for a long time.
He got here,played about two shifts of a warm up game in some daft pre season competition over in France,an old back injury flared up......and he never played another minute for Panthers !
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Post by Penaltybox on May 2, 2016 19:03:48 GMT
Please do not spoil Iginla's argument by quoting facts - it is unfair Considering the East Coast schedule was 70 odd games I'd say my point was proved......he sat on the bench as a healthy scratch for half a season. Something some people say players won't do. They will sit elsewhere and they do,the EIHL is a cushy place for players at present. Strange how Panthers won the grand slam with Beauregard sitting in the wings as a spare wasn't it ? But then again,I do hate to quote FACTS !!!!!! Beauregard was not signed at the beginning of the season as cover. He was signed about xmas as injury cover, then was signed as a spare. My point is he was not signed from September eating into the budget to sit on the bench. If 1/2 way through the the season, we need injury cover, then get injury cover, if we can afford to keep them the rest of season do so.
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Post by iginla on May 2, 2016 19:38:09 GMT
Considering the East Coast schedule was 70 odd games I'd say my point was proved......he sat on the bench as a healthy scratch for half a season. Something some people say players won't do. They will sit elsewhere and they do,the EIHL is a cushy place for players at present. Strange how Panthers won the grand slam with Beauregard sitting in the wings as a spare wasn't it ? But then again,I do hate to quote FACTS !!!!!! Beauregard was not signed at the beginning of the season as cover. He was signed about xmas as injury cover, then was signed as a spare. My point is he was not signed from September eating into the budget to sit on the bench. If 1/2 way through the the season, we need injury cover, then get injury cover, if we can afford to keep them the rest of season do so. Oh ok then. Sorry,i must have been misguided as i somehow thought "a spare" and "injury cover" were the same thing,obviously they aren't ! At least we could always use last years salary saving from playing half the season an import short,to fund another "injury cover" player next season then...........but only providing we can afford it of course !!!! LOL
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Post by panthers_nyr on May 3, 2016 23:00:27 GMT
Quite like the look of Joel Champagne (no relation to Scott), seems to have racked the numbers up in France last 2 seasons and certainly did when he had a season at Clan so has some knowledge of the league whilst proving his ability. www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=19046
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Post by Penaltybox on May 4, 2016 19:30:38 GMT
Beauregard was not signed at the beginning of the season as cover. He was signed about xmas as injury cover, then was signed as a spare. My point is he was not signed from September eating into the budget to sit on the bench. If 1/2 way through the the season, we need injury cover, then get injury cover, if we can afford to keep them the rest of season do so. Oh ok then. Sorry,i must have been misguided as i somehow thought "a spare" and "injury cover" were the same thing,obviously they aren't ! At least we could always use last years salary saving from playing half the season an import short,to fund another "injury cover" player next season then...........but only providing we can afford it of course !!!! LOL injury cover is where we sign a player on a short term contract to cover an injured player. A spare is a player we pay to sit on a bench. So yes there is a differennce. Why do you have an obsession with the salary that they spend. You will have no idea if they saved money, or spent to the budget. You can speculate all you like, but it is your opion that they have not spent enough, which you are entitled too. But it is not a fact, unless you can prove this, and then I will be first to apologise to you and say okay you are right, LOL !!!!
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Post by iginla on May 4, 2016 19:48:12 GMT
Oh ok then. Sorry,i must have been misguided as i somehow thought "a spare" and "injury cover" were the same thing,obviously they aren't ! At least we could always use last years salary saving from playing half the season an import short,to fund another "injury cover" player next season then...........but only providing we can afford it of course !!!! LOL injury cover is where we sign a player on a short term contract to cover an injured player. A spare is a player we pay to sit on a bench. So yes there is a differennce. Why do you have an obsession with the salary that they spend. You will have no idea if they saved money, or spent to the budget. You can speculate all you like, but it is your opion that they have not spent enough, which you are entitled too. But it is not a fact, unless you can prove this, and then I will be first to apologise to you and say okay you are right, LOL !!!! Mmmm interesting. So by your logic,if we signed a player as a spare,then another player went down injured......we wouldn't play the spare cos he's not injury cover ! Don't be so silly.
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Post by Penaltybox on May 4, 2016 21:32:02 GMT
Mmmm interesting. So by your logic,if we signed a player as a spare,then another player went down injured......we wouldn't play the spare cos he's not injury cover ! Don't be so silly. No that's not what I said, you should read it again. ? A spare is a drain on resource in my opion if he is to sit on a bench. Not a fact but my opion
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