iginla
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Post by iginla on Jan 25, 2016 22:27:27 GMT
After this weekend,i was rather thinking of somebody like Blackburn !
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Jan 26, 2016 8:10:36 GMT
I think there's a difference between away teams hating coming to the arena and away fans hating coming to the arena. Which is completely beside the point, given the one I made. I don't want either away fans, nor the team they're following, to be comfortable in any respect. In what sense do you not want away fans to be comfortable? I agree with Iginla's suggestion of putting away fans in Block 1, and if they sell that then Block 2 etc etc... But why should the fans be made to feel uncomfortable? |
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Post by tootootrain on Jan 26, 2016 8:29:59 GMT
But why should the fans be made to feel uncomfortable? I'll flip it around and ask you, why should we be concerned about the comfort of away fans? From a business point of view of course the club want to encourage away fan attendance but why should we, as fans, care? |
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Jan 26, 2016 8:45:07 GMT
Before we carry on this debate, what definition of comfort are we using? I'm only presuming you don't mean posh leather seats and a great view of both goal?
If you do mean having it cosy and perfect viewing conditions, then I do agree with you. The home fans, they are the ones who turn up week in week out throughout the years, have to be taken care of before the away fans.
But I wouldn't want to put people off coming to watch the team they support and the sport they love.
There's not a rink in the league I wouldn't go to because I don't have a problem with it, but I know a few who won't go to Sheffield because of Simms or some that won't go to Coventry because they feel intimidated. Players should expect to feel like this, they're professional sportsmen, but the fans shouldn't.
In a minority sport like ours we should be encouraging as many people through the doors in a bid to gain more exposure and make more money for the stability of the sport.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jan 26, 2016 9:10:20 GMT
The guy at Manchester was being heckled by a steelers fan for being fat. He said the reason he was fat was because every time he slept with the steelers fans mum, she gave him a biscuit. He didn't last long either. This was used by Culinan in South Africa replying to McGrath |
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Post by tootootrain on Jan 26, 2016 9:27:17 GMT
In a minority sport like ours we should be encouraging as many people through the doors in a bid to gain more exposure and make more money for the stability of the sport. Sorry but I don't agree with this. Somebody who would be put off going to a particular rink/arena because they don't like it/feel intimidated is already 'exposed' to the sport, hence why they know said venue is intimidating/whatever. If it's purely about money then stick them out of the way in Block 1 and make Block 3 a 'home' block (although as touched upon, I fundementally disagree with the idea of home/away blocks in ice hockey) and redouble efforts to get home fans in. To be honest though, of all the teams in the EIHL, Panthers likely need the away fan income the least. Personally I like an oppressive atmosphere at away games. It creates a sense of esprit de corps among us visiting fans and fires us up. |
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Jan 26, 2016 9:41:29 GMT
In a minority sport like ours we should be encouraging as many people through the doors in a bid to gain more exposure and make more money for the stability of the sport. Sorry but I don't agree with this. Somebody who would be put off going to a particular rink/arena because they don't like it/feel intimidated is already 'exposed' to the sport, hence why they know said venue is intimidating/whatever. If it's purely about money then stick them out of the way in Block 1 and make Block 3 a 'home' block (although as touched upon, I fundementally disagree with the idea of home/away blocks in ice hockey) and redouble efforts to get home fans in. To be honest though, of all the teams in the EIHL, Panthers likely need the away fan income the least. Personally I like an oppressive atmosphere at away games. It creates a sense of esprit de corps among us visiting fans and fires us up. But our sport, due to lack of proper interest from the media, is based on word of mouth. We sell out probably 6-8 games a season at a max. If we take away the away fans from that then that is a lot of capital being lost in the form of ticket sales. Yes you might get a few more home fans come, but in reality the amount of away fans usually contributes to the sell out crowds. With the lack of real exposure to new fans it's the current fans that we should be trying to encourage to part with their money. Lets also not forget that we don't offer a webcast, so the only way for away fans to watch a game is to turn up. I don't see how making people feel uncomfortable in support their team in an away rink is a good thing. I'm all for an oppressive atmosphere, but not to the extent that it becomes uncomfortable. |
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Post by tootootrain on Jan 26, 2016 9:45:04 GMT
Sorry but I don't agree with this. Somebody who would be put off going to a particular rink/arena because they don't like it/feel intimidated is already 'exposed' to the sport, hence why they know said venue is intimidating/whatever. If it's purely about money then stick them out of the way in Block 1 and make Block 3 a 'home' block (although as touched upon, I fundementally disagree with the idea of home/away blocks in ice hockey) and redouble efforts to get home fans in. To be honest though, of all the teams in the EIHL, Panthers likely need the away fan income the least. Personally I like an oppressive atmosphere at away games. It creates a sense of esprit de corps among us visiting fans and fires us up. But our sport, due to lack of proper interest from the media, is based on word of mouth. We sell out probably 6-8 games a season at a max. If we take away the away fans from that then that is a lot of capital being lost in the form of ticket sales. Yes you might get a few more home fans come, but in reality the amount of away fans usually contributes to the sell out crowds. With the lack of real exposure to new fans it's the current fans that we should be trying to encourage to part with their money. Lets also not forget that we don't offer a webcast, so the only way for away fans to watch a game is to turn up. I don't see how making people feel uncomfortable in support their team in an away rink is a good thing. I'm all for an oppressive atmosphere, but not to the extent that it becomes uncomfortable. Well we'll have to agree to disagree over this. |
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Jan 26, 2016 9:47:59 GMT
But our sport, due to lack of proper interest from the media, is based on word of mouth. We sell out probably 6-8 games a season at a max. If we take away the away fans from that then that is a lot of capital being lost in the form of ticket sales. Yes you might get a few more home fans come, but in reality the amount of away fans usually contributes to the sell out crowds. With the lack of real exposure to new fans it's the current fans that we should be trying to encourage to part with their money. Lets also not forget that we don't offer a webcast, so the only way for away fans to watch a game is to turn up. I don't see how making people feel uncomfortable in support their team in an away rink is a good thing. I'm all for an oppressive atmosphere, but not to the extent that it becomes uncomfortable. Well we'll have to agree to disagree over this. Fair enough One final thing that I'm sure we can both agree one is that oppressive or not, any sort of atmosphere might be nice for a change. |
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Ian
Matt Myers
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Post by Ian on Jan 27, 2016 1:45:24 GMT
Alright My apologies if I seemed to snap Jordan, I have Aspergers Syndrome - Autism spectrum) and sometimes repeat things And all this time I've been thinking I'm the only Aspie on the Cage Forum. |
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