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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 16, 2016 23:23:45 GMT
Yes I was there btw. Massive effort from the Panthers and two howlers apart the Steelers looked a far better balanced team. In the 3rd we continued to struggle to clear the zone, turned the puck over far too much and the Steelers defence and and excellent period from Pinc did what was needed. Our forwards are writing cheques that the defence can't cash unfortunately but a very very good effort none the less. We have some of the best players we have had in recent years. The management are selling the players and the fans short.
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Post by PantherG on Jan 16, 2016 23:40:42 GMT
The players clearly made a great effort tonight & funnily enough I don't feel as deflated at losing as I maybe should do, mainly because I'd more or less accepted that the horse had long since bolted in December (groundhog year). I'm proud of the players effort but as many on here have predicted the 'wing & prayer' method of covering injuries has been found out & the others have left us standing with their desire to both cover AND strengthen. Great post and spot on....
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Jan 16, 2016 23:57:39 GMT
3rd year of having a lack of ideas from Neilson.... His days have to be numbered.
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Post by Mark Mac on Jan 17, 2016 7:11:51 GMT
I watched on the webcast. From what I saw, it looked like both teams balanced each other out when everything for the Panthers clicked. When our guys started making mistakes Steelers were able to be on top. Maybe they are better coached (makes me feel dirty to have written that 'cause Thommo is an utter arse) or maybe Sheffield bringing guys in has boosted confidence / morale and reduced fatigue. It's difficult to say.
Having said that, whilst I am disappointed to get 0 points I do not feel annoyed. The outcome is just what happens in sport. Sometimes you compete well but don't get anything. I can handle that. The real issue is that we needed those points after the organisation screwed up December.
Oh, and if read/hear that our next game or next weekend is the most important of the season again from the Panthers I'm going to scream. It's really starting to grate.
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Post by craighead on Jan 17, 2016 9:45:36 GMT
Next week's games are not the most important... Those games have been and gone. Our next important game will be our play off quarter final not matter how much GM says otherwise; opportunity gone.
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Post by titch on Jan 17, 2016 10:11:40 GMT
So many negative fans on here... Yes, we came away with nothing which nulls any discussion on the game it's self but we didn't deserve to lose and that's echoed by Steelers fans everywhere. The first goal from Steelers shouldn't have counted and we rattled the post a couple of times, it's one of those games that YET again, on another day, we could/should/would have easily won. As supporters, we support our players, not the management and it was nice to see all the Panthers fans stand in appreciation at the end of the game and chant our boys off the ice, fantastic effort from the Panthers and if we play like this every week, we might yet still stand a chance. We have a hard run in but it's STILL in our hands as we have to play Steelers/Devils/Clan multiple times.
Lets Go Panthers!!
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Post by thebestpanthers on Jan 17, 2016 10:55:29 GMT
Yet another controversy re the 1st goal - could not comment myself without seeing some video evidence - but first it was given, then wiped out, then after a lot of discussion given again - was this due to video evidence in which case I hope we all get to see it, or pressure from the timekeeper bench, as it did look like Hicks (who was close to the action) had wiped it out. So either Hicks got it wrong, or was influenced. Show us the evidence. Thought that the game was very even, and either team could have won, pity it was not us but we would want at least two of their goals back - one big question though is - Where was Janssen last night? he usually makes a lot of difference when he is on the ice, but last night I did not really notice him. All the players deserved the applause when they left the ice and could not have asked much more from them. Two very hard games in two nights
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Post by iginla on Jan 17, 2016 11:14:40 GMT
According to the first period interviews,Hicks said he made the wash out signal on the first goal purely regarding the puck hitting the bar. He didn't see the puck cross the line so consulted the goal judge and it was on his word that the goal was given.
For me it was the reaction of the two Steelers players right on the goal crease that gives it away,they didn't celebrate and even from webcast slow mo video you couldn't see a goal. My bet is it wasn't a goal,be interesting to see the behind the goal video.....I bet if it had been on Pincs net we would have seen that video on the night like they did a few weeks ago when the huge debate kicked off whether they should have shown it.
Regarding Janssen,this is the problem with him,in the big games and when it gets tight Corey hardly plays or benches him,which basically put us another import down. That's not a dig at Cam,I just feel Corey gets it so wrong sometimes.
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Post by nate24 on Jan 17, 2016 11:26:29 GMT
.....I just feel Corey gets it so wrong sometimes. A lot of the time recently. He's a good coach but he needs a new set up where he can refresh and expand his CV. He's got nothing left to achieve here given the grand slam.
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Post by Shorty on Jan 17, 2016 12:34:15 GMT
According to the first period interviews,Hicks said he made the wash out signal on the first goal purely regarding the puck hitting the bar. He didn't see the puck cross the line so consulted the goal judge and it was on his word that the goal was given. For me it was the reaction of the two Steelers players right on the goal crease that gives it away,they didn't celebrate and even from webcast slow mo video you couldn't see a goal. My bet is it wasn't a goal,be interesting to see the behind the goal video.. The only one who celebrated the goal was the guy who took the shot. The two in front of the goal did nothing, and it was the goal judge who gave it. Sums up a lot of the bad luck we have been having.
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Post by ted logan on Jan 17, 2016 12:37:58 GMT
According to the first period interviews,Hicks said he made the wash out signal on the first goal purely regarding the puck hitting the bar. He didn't see the puck cross the line so consulted the goal judge and it was on his word that the goal was given. For me it was the reaction of the two Steelers players right on the goal crease that gives it away,they didn't celebrate and even from webcast slow mo video you couldn't see a goal. My bet is it wasn't a goal,be interesting to see the behind the goal video.. The only one who celebrated the goal was the guy who took the shot. The two in front of the goal did nothing, and it was the goal judge who gave it. Sums up a lot of the bad luck we have been having. It clearly didn't go in off the initial shot, bar and out. Whether it came back off the bar, hit Madolora and went in is inconclusive. If replays proved beyond all doubt that that was the case, I'm surprised it wasn't shown on the highlights?
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Post by iginla on Jan 17, 2016 12:40:33 GMT
Sums up,a potential dodgy Sheffield goal judge to me Shorty.
Hicks was at one side of the goal,Roy I think it was in front of the goalie and Nelson at the back post and none of them saw it go in......Mmmmm !
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Post by Bagheera on Jan 17, 2016 13:01:08 GMT
Regards Janssen I think he suffered from a strange change of lines. When he played with McMillan and Myers the night before he knew exactly what he needed to do and was fantastic.
For some strange reason Corey changed it last night and swapped him and Ling over. Cam probably unsure what he needs to do on that line. Maybe caught in 2 minds. Looked like he was trying to play hockey playing with Moran & Kolnik. This is when Cam looks very average. His poor puck control caused a number of turn overs.
Cam is a huge asset to this team and I wouldn't be without him. However he has to be allowed to forfill his role and not be asked to do something he isn't great at.
Having said that if you watch 1 of the goals(Swindlehurst maybe) Cam drives the net and takes 2 players with him. Leaving space for the player to shoot and score.
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Post by panthers_nyr on Jan 17, 2016 13:04:38 GMT
Covienently the goal highlights don't show it from any other angle than the original view when they scored apart from its slowed down yet a different angle showing the goal line is used later in the highlights for a play in the zone. You can see it hit the bar and come back out towards Madolora and he then covers it in his crease so doesn't look like a goal to me.
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Post by wgray on Jan 17, 2016 13:16:14 GMT
Sheffield were lucky last night simple as
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Post by thebestpanthers on Jan 17, 2016 13:39:14 GMT
Think one of the most cringe worthy comments I have ever heard came from the announcer last night when Steeler Dan shot the free Tee shirt into the barrier to be told "not to get upset, the Steeler Family still love him" may be a slight miss-quote but must rival anything that comes out of their mouths
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 17, 2016 13:43:58 GMT
Think one of the most cringe worthy comments I have ever heard came from the announcer last night when Steeler Dan shot the free Tee shirt into the barrier to be told "not to get upset, the Steeler Family still love him" may be a slight miss-quote but must rival anything that comes out of their mouths the pre-game, entrance video, ex player intros and atmosphere now at Steelers arena games makes ours look like a wet Wednesday night on the Somme and the way they introduce new players is light years ahead too.
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Post by kezypanther on Jan 17, 2016 14:18:55 GMT
That goal didn't look like it went in. The video highlights seems to prove that theory. Why show only one angle?
Looks like we played well but Madalora had an off game with his goals. Them games are always going to be tough but it was a game we needed to win. And we didn't.
League is well and truly over for me. Shame really as I thought this team started out as one of the best we have seen since the Slam.
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Post by EMB on Jan 17, 2016 16:25:50 GMT
Maybe if enough people actually email the Steelers to see the footage it will gone about, won't hold my breath & what's the point now, I'm sure it's happened to many teams but like you say if that had definitely gone in you would have seen the replay from about 5 different angles. just show you what they want you to see
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Post by Yotes on Jan 17, 2016 16:46:33 GMT
We've had plenty of not given goals against in the past, I doubt we released the footage either. Just one of those things that'll happen until they can watch it back at the time.
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Post by MODSTUFF on Jan 17, 2016 16:46:35 GMT
Raises the question, should goal judges be provided by the league? Sheffield seem to have benefited from advice given by a Sheffield employee. He apparently saw it cross the line. I'm sure the ref wouldn't have awarded the goal if there was any doubt. This could be classed as cheating.
I remember panthers benefiting in the playoffs against Fife when our goal judge said it was a goal. I don't remember the exact circumstances other than I thought it wouldn't have been a goal in another rink.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 17:09:52 GMT
Here are the highlights. Their first clearly didn't cross the line.
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Post by Mark Mac on Jan 17, 2016 17:18:32 GMT
Watching it at 0.25 speed it looks like it didn't go in, however I think it could quite legitimately have been seen as having gone in at normal speed during the game. The net moves a bit which normally suggests the puck goes in.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Jan 17, 2016 17:27:43 GMT
Watching it at 0.25 speed it looks like it didn't go in, however I think it could quite legitimately have been seen as having gone in at normal speed during the game. The net moves a bit which normally suggests the puck goes in. If in doubt then it should have been "no goal" Hicks was right next to it and gave "no goal" he then spoke to the goal judge and he then had a long discussion at the time keepers bench and awarded the goal - very questionable, and the highlights do not help
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Post by iginla on Jan 17, 2016 17:29:03 GMT
If they aren't sure,it should be no goal.......otherwise the official is just guessing !!!
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