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Post by Mark Mac on Dec 17, 2015 17:41:49 GMT
Ok let's ask the question. Would you be prepared to sacrifice a two game ban for Janssen to take Marsh out with a head hit,or if not Marsh another Cardiff player ? I would if we were winning comfortably on Saturday. I don't necessarily want a head hit but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Marsh knew what he was doing. I don't give a damn if it was out of character. He targeted one of our players. We need to respond to that and send a message.
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Post by marshalfish on Dec 17, 2015 18:37:18 GMT
Oh good...The Tom Darnell Show. This weeks show will feature Tom Darnell, with colour commentary from Tom Darnell, guest star Tom Darnell and a performance of his biggest hit "Everybody Look At Me". Bang goes a good game then, much less a physical one. No doubt Tom will make some horrendous call early doors, preferrably because Janssen was on the ice at the same time as Marsh, and go on to ruin a potentially good game.
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Post by wannabe2 on Dec 17, 2015 20:07:59 GMT
What Jordanoooo meant by not seen Janssen targeting a head was in the EIHL,not some NHL footage from 8 years ago that you have dredged up ! Your arguments make me smile....this coming from a fan of a team who had "dangerous Brad Voth" for several years. Ask players who played in that era who they were afraid of getting hurt by with a bad hit ? I have spoken to quite a few and every one of them said it was Voth,he was out to hurt and injure opposing players. Well you guys tried to sign Voth, would your opinions change then, or would you have refused to watch the Panthers playing a dirty player. Genuine question
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 20:54:33 GMT
I want Janssen to distroy Marsh plain and simple but ideally want hi to get marsh when he and the refs are least expecting it. The officials are idiots and are expecting something to happen hense why they are sending Tom 'chip on his shoulder' darnell along to watch over things. Cam hopefully will bide his time and make marsh pay heavily.
Hard of the saying " you reap what you sow"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 21:22:07 GMT
I think The lady on the Cats Whiskers said she would rather it not go back and forth like it's sure to do if Mr Janssen goes wild on him, if it was her and that's what she said, I couldn't agree more.
From what I've seen (first season supporting the Panthers) Notts vs Cardiff games are hard fought and really entertaining, I think we would do well to not let it show how much the hit has bothered us and stick to playing a good game.
Besides, didn't someone on here say playing rough with a physical team like Cardiff will give up any 'big ice advantage' that we may have?
Sod retribution Panthers, stay classy and win.
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Post by dp on Dec 17, 2015 21:48:48 GMT
What Jordanoooo meant by not seen Janssen targeting a head was in the EIHL,not some NHL footage from 8 years ago that you have dredged up ! Your arguments make me smile....this coming from a fan of a team who had "dangerous Brad Voth" for several years. Ask players who played in that era who they were afraid of getting hurt by with a bad hit ? I have spoken to quite a few and every one of them said it was Voth,he was out to hurt and injure opposing players. Which of my arguments make you smile? The one where I said I don't think it's right that Jannsen should go out targeting the heads of players. The one where I said Marsh will take whatever is coming,and i've already said I think the hit was bad, DOPS say it was shoulder to shoulder.. The fact that in the past Jannsen has been a dirty player,whereas Marsh is considered by most to be hard but fair. I also fail to see why I'm not allowed to refer to Jannsen's past yet you think it's fine to bring up Voth. Fine, I can see there are a few on here couldn't care less if a Devils player get's stretchered off on Saturday.Enjoy the game folks. Have you listened to the commentary on that 8 year old video? "That's just an unfortunate situation there" "No penalty was called" It's definitely late, but it's not a head shot, and is nothing like the Marsh hit on Moran - it's a poor comparison. I think people are a bit precious about protecting their poor players these days. When I first started watching Panthers, if a Cardiff player had done that to one of Panthers skilled forwards, they'd have had Nieckar and Norris/Wood/Clarke/Lavigne chasing the Cardiff skill players round for the rest of the season. The problem these days is that Marsh knows full well that Panthers basically can't touch him and DOPS won't ban him - so he can do what he wants. Personally I'd like to see someone like Farmer going after Doucet or Martin for the rest of the season and putting them off their game - I think that'd be fair retribution. I remember reading an interview with someone like Nieckar and he was saying he'd line up next to the opposition enforcer at the start of the game and lay down the rules; "If you go near our forwards then I'm no choicing your top scorer". At that point the other enforcer has to decide whether he's happy for his team mate to have Nieckar chasing him all game, or if he'll play fair. To me that's a much better way of policing the game than an inconsistent, incompetent and probably biased Elite league ref backed up by DOPS (who, for example, give Forney 5 minutes for fighting with his gloves still on and stick still in his hand because it's against O'Connor, and when the ref is challenged he justifies it by saying Forney looked at O'Connor - but in the same game give Nickerson instigator for a standard fight!)
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Post by wannabe2 on Dec 17, 2015 22:04:57 GMT
Believe me if Farmer started those antics Batch would sort him out, we don't have to leave that to a import. Hopefully the hockey will be the winner in the end. After all Panthers v Devils games are exciting to day the least.
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Post by Bagheera on Dec 17, 2015 22:06:14 GMT
Janssen will be lucky to survive the 1st period with Darnell in charge. He'll just have to blow a Cardiff player a kiss and he will get a game penalty. Darnell will take any chance he gets to "prevent further trouble" and get Cam out of the game.
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Post by shmyrohdear on Dec 18, 2015 2:49:41 GMT
Ok let's ask the question. Would you be prepared to sacrifice a two game ban for Janssen to take Marsh out with a head hit,or if not Marsh another Cardiff player ? I would if we were winning comfortably on Saturday. I think you need to have a long hard look at yourself. That is such a crass comment. To encourage Janssen to go out headhunting is despicable. If you think Marsh has something to answer for then fair enough,but it sounds to me that you couldn't care less who gets hurt as long as your warped bloodlust gets satisfied.Shame on you. The Marsh hit is out of character,unlike many of the hit's your man Janssen has delivered over the years,but I suppose that is acceptable as long as he is wearing a Panthers shirt. Most Panthers fans are fairminded, although I suspect that most wouldn't mind seeing Cam shaking his gloves at Marsh the first time they are on the ice together. Janssen hasn't ever had a reputation for headhunting in either of his NHL or AHL careers think you should brush up on your facts and stick to this league before trying impose ridiculous claims about players you've obviously barely ever seen play. I've followed the NHL since i was 5 years old and yours is the first I've heard or seen of this his hits over the years. He was respected massively in his time in the show. Calm yourself before passing judgement on others.
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Post by 5+game on Dec 18, 2015 9:38:29 GMT
Oh good...The Tom Darnell Show. This weeks show will feature Tom Darnell, with colour commentary from Tom Darnell, guest star Tom Darnell and a performance of his biggest hit "Everybody Look At Me". He's the GM of the refereeing world.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 10:49:07 GMT
I think you need to have a long hard look at yourself. That is such a crass comment. To encourage Janssen to go out headhunting is despicable. If you think Marsh has something to answer for then fair enough,but it sounds to me that you couldn't care less who gets hurt as long as your warped bloodlust gets satisfied.Shame on you. The Marsh hit is out of character,unlike many of the hit's your man Janssen has delivered over the years,but I suppose that is acceptable as long as he is wearing a Panthers shirt. Most Panthers fans are fairminded, although I suspect that most wouldn't mind seeing Cam shaking his gloves at Marsh the first time they are on the ice together. Janssen hasn't ever had a reputation for headhunting in either of his NHL or AHL careers think you should brush up on your facts and stick to this league before trying impose ridiculous claims about players you've obviously barely ever seen play. I've followed the NHL since i was 5 years old and yours is the first I've heard or seen of this his hits over the years. He was respected massively in his time in the show. Calm yourself before passing judgement on others. Spot on. Clearly a case of someone labelling Janssen without any real knowledge of his hugely respected record in the show. He's the cleanest hitter I've seen on the ice. He always targets the body..... or the boards. He is pure intimidation factor, he creates space for others.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 18, 2015 11:06:02 GMT
I hope Cam's halo doesn't get him an illegal equipment penalty on Saturday.
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Post by earnie on Dec 18, 2015 12:14:22 GMT
Some of the retribution style comments on here are shameful. Eventually I suppose you will calm down. As I said on Inferno , it is fortunate that the players have far more sense than the persons who post on forums,and that includes myself. It will be a hard fought game as it always is and keeping out of the bin will be paramount for both teams.
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Post by tootootrain on Dec 18, 2015 13:30:24 GMT
I'd rather the Panthers played a clean game, made use of any big ice advantage they have and leave Cardiff to pick up penalties if they do their usual and try gooning it up if they're chasing the game.
It Panthers are well ahead and an opportunity presents itself then yes, make it clear that Marsh's callous actions are not welcome, but don't risk throwing away a game for it.
Ultimately, if Panthers win the league, that'd be the best 'retribution' that can be metered out to a team such as Cardiff.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 18, 2015 13:31:40 GMT
Some of the retribution style comments on here are shameful. Eventually I suppose you will calm down. As I said on Inferno , it is fortunate that the players have far more sense than the persons who post on forums,and that includes myself. It will be a hard fought game as it always is and keeping out of the bin will be paramount for both teams. I wouldn't get yourself worked up. It's the Internet.
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Post by Mozzy on Dec 18, 2015 17:13:24 GMT
Some harsh comments about Darnell on here.
He let everything go in the last Sheffield-Belfast game. Would be interesting to see the same tactic used in this game......
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Post by iginla on Dec 18, 2015 18:21:36 GMT
Maybe harsh yes and it would be nice to see him let it go again.
The problem comes though......that he will probably go the other way and call everything on Saturday !
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Post by thebestpanthers on Dec 18, 2015 18:31:05 GMT
Some harsh comments about Darnell on here. He let everything go in the last Sheffield-Belfast game. Would be interesting to see the same tactic used in this game...... Wonder if that was because he had a MIC on and therefore had to explain his actions - the problem is when you do not get any explanation
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Post by spik on Dec 18, 2015 18:41:27 GMT
...and less than 24 hours to go. Just a last plug to say that the game is charitable (by bucket collection) for Cystic Fibrosis. There will not be a lot of us carrying buckets but hope the game and the cause all get good results...by that I mean a Panthers win of course.
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Post by bbw on Dec 18, 2015 19:39:50 GMT
dp the comments by the local commentary team are laughable, "that's just an unfortunate situation" yes it is for Kaberle. Is it any wonder there was no penalty on the play most people including the officials where way ahead of the hit. I've been watching hockey a while now and that is by far the latest hit I have seen. By the way he was banned for three games after the game for a hit to the head, so not a million miles away from the Marsh ban for what was judged a shoulder to shoulder.
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Post by iginla on Dec 18, 2015 19:48:45 GMT
Shoulder to shoulder my backside bbw, Marsh's hit on Moran was elbow to the head........end of story !!!!!!!!
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Post by bbw on Dec 18, 2015 20:01:46 GMT
The initial contact was judged to be shoulder to shoulder hence the reduction in the ban. Jannsen also got a 5 game ban for another dreadful hit to the head on Matt Bradley,but according to some he doesn't do it and is well respected. Like I have said I thought Marsh's hit was bad,I just don't buy into this image of Saint Jannsen.
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Post by dp on Dec 18, 2015 20:18:13 GMT
dp the comments by the local commentary team are laughable, "that's just an unfortunate situation" yes it is for Kaberle. Is it any wonder there was no penalty on the play most people including the officials where way ahead of the hit. I've been watching hockey a while now and that is by far the latest hit I have seen. By the way he was banned for three games after the game for a hit to the head, so not a million miles away from the Marsh ban for what was judged a shoulder to shoulder. The only thing that post has made me wonder is how long Marsh would have been banned for if he'd been playing in something other than a corrupt Mickey Mouse league. All you've done is reinforce how dreadful "DOPS" is.
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Post by fishman on Dec 18, 2015 21:36:45 GMT
The initial contact was judged to be shoulder to shoulder hence the reduction in the ban. Jannsen also got a 5 game ban for another dreadful hit to the head on Matt Bradley,but according to some he doesn't do it and is well respected. Like I have said I thought Marsh's hit was bad,I just don't buy into this image of Saint Jannsen. Bet you guys think its funny coming on the cage and getting Panthers fans backs up, go back to the inferno. PS Merry Xmas
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Post by bbw on Dec 18, 2015 21:59:02 GMT
And a merry Christmas to you fishman.
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