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Post by dgardner on Dec 13, 2015 23:59:35 GMT
Shame about tonight, really thought we could take this to get a much needed 4 point weekend but we still have a long way to go and once we get shultz back hopefully we can get back to getting some more goals especially on the PP, moran i feel is also hugely missed, think we just ran out of gas from the sounds of it and by relying too much on depth these last few games penalties caught up with us, at the end of the day we are still in a strong position and next weeks game against devils is a must win to set right this weekend and not lose the adavantage from the excellent win in the BBT.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 14, 2015 1:27:32 GMT
Shame not to win the easy game (hey, harlan ? ), but not catastrophic at this stage of proceedings. We're still well placed, and not even half way yet. Way I see it, our early season home heavy schedule has been corrected, and we're now in a more realistic position, but it's still a good one. Still, don't want losing to become a habit, so need to stem the tide on Saturday back at the NIC.
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Post by randomfifer29 on Dec 14, 2015 2:30:18 GMT
Thought I'd get dibs in as a Flyers fan here.. Panthers looked tired, ill-disiplined even. No denying that the ref tonight wasn't great, but compared to what we usually see from him, I was almost impressed. Genuinely expected Panthers to come here and run away with an easy 3-0 win. Never seen much of Jansen all night, and Ling wasn't really there. Lawrence and Farmer I doubt would even get a game for us! Neither teams special teams were good at all by any stretch and Panthers' keeper just didn't seem really all there. Maybe should have sat this one out. The goal by Steven Lee was an absolute beauty, no taking away from that, almost as good as Caig's. Met a couple Panthers fans aswell, some of the friendliest guys I've spoke to. Didn't think I'd say this, but the best team won tonight. I'm just worried that that will be a bad thing on our end..You guys can have Stockton or Fox if you want them?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 14, 2015 3:01:47 GMT
Just back home after a fun weekend in Scotland (none of the fun was watching the hockey thought). Panthers looked terrible again tonight. Virtually zero defence and we never looked like scoring at all in the 3rd. The best team by a mile won tonight. They looked like scoring every time they came into our zone. Never would have thought this years Panthers could look so bad. The only upside was talking to some of the Flyers fans. Great people and look forward to seeing them again soon
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 14, 2015 3:17:33 GMT
Maybe it could be that there is more parity in the league this year. No game is easy and no one will run away with it. Cardiff front loaded their schedule in that blue tent to ensure most home games would be played in that match box. Once they move I expect a return to the pack and it will be a exciting run into the playoffs. The so called smaller teams have got better, a lot better. The problem is that we seemed to have stayed still and we seem too easy to play against away from home all of a sudden.
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Post by flyerpanther on Dec 14, 2015 5:50:03 GMT
Maybe it could be that there is more parity in the league this year. No game is easy and no one will run away with it. Cardiff front loaded their schedule in that blue tent to ensure most home games would be played in that match box. Once they move I expect a return to the pack and it will be a exciting run into the playoffs. The so called smaller teams have got better, a lot better. The problem is that we seemed to have stayed still and we seem too easy to play against away from home all of a sudden. Sometimes we're better..sometimes not...our problem since entering Elite is lack of quality and depth of Brits..we cant simply rely on same old Brit faces year in year out if we seriously want to compete consistently..still i suppose its about budgets when you play to 1500-2000 at home.
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Post by pantherdman on Dec 14, 2015 6:32:51 GMT
Another poor result, needed 4 points this weekend. Seems the tired ness is catching up with us.
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 14, 2015 9:42:25 GMT
Tell the arena that schedule is unreasonable and negotiate Jonno. What would they do if the arena said "oh sorry we are fully booked in October,November and December so you can't play at home in any of those months ? I looked at the arena schedule ages ago and there did not appear to be any reason why we should have that awful away schedule. Other than of course,it may have meant some midweek games......and of course we all know that Panthers management do love a big Saturday night crowd don't we !!!! The arena has to use a certain percentage of its time for ice sports so they are highly unlikely to kick us out for three months of the season. Personally I didn't like this schedule from the start, I think the third game in a row last night killed us, that's not to take anything away from Fife who look a decent side but in the third we just took too many sloppy penalties. When you pair up the tough Belfast weekend with a three in three on the road - factor in the fact the Scottish teams are no pushovers these days and it's hardly surprising we struggled. No more three in threes next season please.
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Post by harlan on Dec 14, 2015 11:00:51 GMT
Shame not to win the easy game (hey, harlan ? ), but not catastrophic at this stage of proceedings. We're still well placed, and not even half way yet. Way I see it, our early season home heavy schedule has been corrected, and we're now in a more realistic position, but it's still a good one. Still, don't want losing to become a habit, so need to stem the tide on Saturday back at the NIC. Actually you did win the easy game in beating Clan As others have said I think 3 in 3 is far too much and that definately had an effect on Panthers. Last nights game had a similar feel to it as our game against Steelers the previous night and I was thinking that at the end of the first that Panthers would come out with the same game plan for the second as Steelers had, be very aggressive with us, be intimidating, forecheck the life out of us and give us no room to play and to a certain extent that happened as Flyers were pinned back in our D zone for long periods and going into the third tied instead of being behind was a big thing as I think Panthers approach to the third with a lead would have been totally different. However Flyers got room to play and take advantage of our PP opportunities, eventually, unlike the previous evening and Wiikman really didnt look right at all and yes I know he wasnt feeling well so you have to question if he should have been playing and who makes that decision, Neilson or Wiikman. To me it appears as if it was a desperate call and showed how much Panthers wanted 4 points from the weekend. Never saw anything of Ling, Janssen, Lawrence, MacMillan or Kolnik all night but then again that may have been the 3 in 3 taking effect. I did like the look of Hardy though, thought he was very solid and have always liked Mosey I really do think he is a class act. Always good to meet up with friends from Nottingham and looking forward to the game in January to do it again
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Post by Ian on Dec 14, 2015 11:04:00 GMT
Was Neilson at these three games? All the interviews and comments on the OS are from Strachan throughout the weekend.
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Post by mmmbop on Dec 14, 2015 11:04:14 GMT
Its starting to look a lot like Christmas
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 14:14:03 GMT
Was Neilson at these three games? All the interviews and comments on the OS are from Strachan throughout the weekend. Neilson is interviewed at the end of the clan highlights. Anyways, what do you expect? Whenever we lose its normally Strachs who has to do the interview
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Post by iginla on Dec 14, 2015 15:58:01 GMT
I thought the same about Neilson after this weekend.....nothing like hiding is there when the team performs badly.
If i was Strachs I'd tell him,it's your team,you don't let me have much input,now get your own backside out there in front of that microphone !!!!
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Post by titch on Dec 14, 2015 16:06:57 GMT
I reckon if we had played the Flyers in the first game, we could have been looking at a 4/5 point weekend, not taking anything away from the Flyers performance last night but they NEEDED the win and we were absolutely knackered and have breathing room to slip up and lose.
We are now facing a more realistic league table but 9 out of the last 10 games being away from home has killed us, some of the travel schedule could have been done better and to sandwich a rival match against the Steelers at home between two massive sets of away games was a terrible decision as the loss at home has more than likely killed our confidence going into the five in a row away games.
I believe the Christmas/New year period looks more kind to us, between the 19th of December and 23rd of January, we'll have 8 out of 13 games at home and will only be travelling to Manchester, Coventry, Sheffield & Cardiff, that's a hell of a lot better than the last 10 games being in Sheffield to Edinborough to Cardiff to Nottingham to Belfast, back to Nottingham to train before doing the three games in a row in Scotland, the poor boys must be absolutely knackered, you have to remember that at the end of a three game weekend, players like Cam and Ling won't be able to play like they do at home with no travelling involved..
Schultz, Moran & Betteridge will give us more cover next year and I reckon we'll be fine
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Post by titch on Dec 14, 2015 16:09:33 GMT
I thought the same about Neilson after this weekend.....nothing like hiding is there when the team performs badly. If i was Strachs I'd tell him,it's your team,you don't let me have much input,now get your own backside out there in front of that microphone !!!! I remember a manager who used to do that... I think it was a certain Sir Alex Ferguson. I believe he said in his book that the dressing room needed him more after a loss so he would leave all the negative press comments with the assistant manager or coaches to deal with and give his players some confidence back in the dressing room. I can only imagine a player/coach like Neilson to do exactly the same similar thing.
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Post by iginla on Dec 14, 2015 16:15:28 GMT
Wow that's a good cop out.....that reminds me of Paul Adey who famously said between periods when asked why he wasn't going in the dressing room to rip them apart.
"No im staying in my office,because if I don't go in the room then they will know I'm angry with them" ! Lol
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Post by Yotes on Dec 14, 2015 16:20:36 GMT
They did speak to Rick after all 3 games, so not like Corey swanned out for a bit of glory on Saturday night. Probably just continuing with that for the weekend, maybe it was pre-arranged even.
Whatever the old boy's faults, I don't really remember Corey ducking an interview after a loss, and worse losses than these ones too.
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Post by Shorty on Dec 14, 2015 16:33:49 GMT
Perhaps Neilson was in the dressing room discussing what went wrong, as opposed to conducting interviews for the media. Just a thought.
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Post by Ian on Dec 14, 2015 17:20:41 GMT
Was Neilson at these three games? All the interviews and comments on the OS are from Strachan throughout the weekend. Neilson is interviewed at the end of the clan highlights. Anyways, what do you expect? Whenever we lose its normally Strachs who has to do the interview Fair enough, I haven't watched the Clan highlights yet, was just going on the Panthers' own interviews on the official site. It was a genuine question, I wasn't trying to be facetious or make any assertions. As he wasn't in the interviews I wondered if maybe he had not been behind the bench for some reason, maybe affected by the illness that people said was doing the rounds in the squad.
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Post by Ian on Dec 14, 2015 17:28:42 GMT
Perhaps Neilson was in the dressing room discussing what went wrong, as opposed to conducting interviews for the media. Just a thought. No need to be quite so defensive. As I said in my reply to toothfairy, I wasn't reading anything into it or criticising him. It was a genuine question as I found it a bit unusual that the assistant had been on interview duty after all three matches.
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Post by pantherman66 on Dec 14, 2015 19:52:12 GMT
Never miss a trick to have a pop do we iginla, I can't wait to see what will be next, my guess is Corey will have been wearing the wrong colour pants if we lose on Saturday.
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Post by iginla on Dec 14, 2015 20:31:03 GMT
It's an open forum Pman 66,I am entitled to my opinion just the same as everybody else.
If I see something that doesn't sit right then I shall say so,just like other people do,I wasn't the one who asked the original question on where Corey was this weekend. But as usual it's my post that gets singled out.
I guess some people can't hack the fact I'm always right !
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 22:15:00 GMT
Is it possible to resurrect the 'ignore' button please?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 22:23:16 GMT
It's an open forum Pman 66,I am entitled to my opinion just the same as everybody else. If I see something that doesn't sit right then I shall say so,just like other people do,I wasn't the one who asked the original question on where Corey was this weekend. But as usual it's my post that gets singled out. I guess some people can't hack the fact I'm always right ! I don't think people would have a problem with your negativity if you didn't follow it up with what can be perceived as arrogance with the 'I'm always right' comments. You might well be right a lot of the time. To tell people this constantly is not needed, imo.
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Post by harlan on Dec 14, 2015 22:39:18 GMT
For those who didn't see the webcast the highlights can be seen here
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