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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 13:37:00 GMT
Fitzgerald should definitely be looking at 2 games if you base it on the bogus ban Landry got last year. You know, the one that meant he had to miss an important game against the Steelers as if they won they'd pretty much sew up the league title. Funny how it worked out like that eh? That was a bogus call against Belfast. I think it was the first game of an away double header. The game where Westgarth did K-wall I think? NFNF? I think a hasty review took place and Landry missed the second game of the double header which the mortally wounded Giants player miraculously recovered in time to play in. Yeah that's the one! Then he was subsequently banned for the next day against Belfast (which was allegedly found out a little under 2 hours to faceoff), then missed the game against Sheffield the following Saturday. That one was all a little bit too convenient.
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Post by 5+game on Nov 17, 2015 13:42:05 GMT
Fitzgerald should definitely be looking at 2 games if you base it on the bogus ban Landry got last year. You know, the one that meant he had to miss an important game against the Steelers as if they won they'd pretty much sew up the league title. Funny how it worked out like that eh? Personally I don't think it is a hit to the head, I would be annoyed if one of our players was banned for that.
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Post by ted logan on Nov 17, 2015 13:45:26 GMT
Fitzgerald should definitely be looking at 2 games if you base it on the bogus ban Landry got last year. You know, the one that meant he had to miss an important game against the Steelers as if they won they'd pretty much sew up the league title. Funny how it worked out like that eh? Personally I don't think it is a hit to the head, I would be annoyed if one of our players was banned for that. I would too and I was when Lepine was continually hung out to dry by the pre-cursor to DOPS. They just need to be consistent though. I wasn't at the game but is this definitely the incident under review or was there another one?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 13:51:18 GMT
Fitzgerald should definitely be looking at 2 games if you base it on the bogus ban Landry got last year. You know, the one that meant he had to miss an important game against the Steelers as if they won they'd pretty much sew up the league title. Funny how it worked out like that eh? Personally I don't think it is a hit to the head, I would be annoyed if one of our players was banned for that. FWIW I don't think it's overly ban worthy (but if you go on what's gone before is it overly different to what Landry got banned for?), I just like any excuse to bring up that Landry ban really. I'll get over it at some point... maybe! I'll stop expecting consistency from a failed system aswell I'm sure.
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Post by GuinnessMan on Nov 17, 2015 13:51:31 GMT
I'm guessing this is the 'Check to the Head' I think it is likely the follow up hit about 1 second later in the game highlights.
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Post by Zukiwskyfan on Nov 17, 2015 14:57:23 GMT
I personally think a ban for Fitzy would be absolutely ludicrous. No check to the head in my opinion.
I also don't think the spear was bad. 1 game strichtly because it's now the soft watered down product that is the modern game.
This is the part I really don't get. People complain that we no longer see a real rivalry but then demand bans the second anything happens that could build anything up between the teams. Let them play and give us the entertainment and hatred we crave to see.
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Post by ted logan on Nov 17, 2015 15:24:29 GMT
I personally think a ban for Fitzy would be absolutely ludicrous. No check to the head in my opinion. I also don't think the spear was bad. 1 game strichtly because it's now the soft watered down product that is the modern game. This is the part I really don't get. People complain that we no longer see a real rivalry but then demand bans the second anything happens that could build anything up between the teams. Let them play and give us the entertainment and hatred we crave to see. Predictable. Was it the 'soft watered down product' when Jim Shepherd got his ban? A bit more than a 1 game wasn't it?
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Post by bruinspanthers on Nov 17, 2015 15:30:03 GMT
Fitzgerald has deleted a tweet relating To this very quickly, have screenshot but phone won't upload it for some reason but he said
"@fitzyg28 Check to the head? his is hockey folks, the guy is 5'7" what else are you supposed to do here? Physical game we play."
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Post by Zukiwskyfan on Nov 17, 2015 15:33:17 GMT
I personally think a ban for Fitzy would be absolutely ludicrous. No check to the head in my opinion. I also don't think the spear was bad. 1 game strichtly because it's now the soft watered down product that is the modern game. This is the part I really don't get. People complain that we no longer see a real rivalry but then demand bans the second anything happens that could build anything up between the teams. Let them play and give us the entertainment and hatred we crave to see. Predictable. Was it the 'soft watered down product' when Jim Shepherd got his ban? A bit more than a 1 game wasn't it? Predictable? Shepherd's was a deliberate spear to the face not a couple of jabs to the body. Not even comparable!
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Post by Ghost on Nov 17, 2015 15:36:18 GMT
That was a bogus call against Belfast. I think it was the first game of an away double header. The game where Westgarth did K-wall I think? NFNF? I think a hasty review took place and Landry missed the second game of the double header which the mortally wounded Giants player miraculously recovered in time to play in. Yeah that's the one! Then he was subsequently banned for the next day against Belfast (which was allegedly found out a little under 2 hours to faceoff), then missed the game against Sheffield the following Saturday. That one was all a little bit too convenient. What is this NFNF thing?
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Post by pingchowchi on Nov 17, 2015 15:46:36 GMT
The Belfast version of this I believe *Only joking - the real answer is much more tedious
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 15:53:48 GMT
I personally think a ban for Fitzy would be absolutely ludicrous. No check to the head in my opinion. I also don't think the spear was bad. 1 game strichtly because it's now the soft watered down product that is the modern game. This is the part I really don't get. People complain that we no longer see a real rivalry but then demand bans the second anything happens that could build anything up between the teams. Let them play and give us the entertainment and hatred we crave to see. Yet on Facebook you said ling was 'very very lucky' to escape a longer ban. There was nothing in that compared to the actions of mosienko! Make your mind up!
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Post by Zukiwskyfan on Nov 17, 2015 16:05:22 GMT
I personally think a ban for Fitzy would be absolutely ludicrous. No check to the head in my opinion. I also don't think the spear was bad. 1 game strichtly because it's now the soft watered down product that is the modern game. This is the part I really don't get. People complain that we no longer see a real rivalry but then demand bans the second anything happens that could build anything up between the teams. Let them play and give us the entertainment and hatred we crave to see. Yet on Facebook you said ling was 'very very lucky' to escape a longer ban. There was nothing in that compared to the actions of mosienko! Make your mind up! Again though very different situation. Ling's was a slash that was intended to injure while Mosienko's was a couple of jabs while in a scrum against the boards. Can't even compare. There is nothing to make my mind up about. I know which one was the much much dirtier play. Ling's slash deserved a bigger suspension than what ever Mosienko gets.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 16:07:12 GMT
How do you know ling intended to injure lloyd? Have you spoke to him
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Post by Zukiwskyfan on Nov 17, 2015 16:14:48 GMT
How do you know ling intended to injure lloyd? Have you spoke to him Have you not seen it? Clutching at straws there mate, your smarter and know the game better than that.
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Post by ted logan on Nov 17, 2015 16:16:47 GMT
Yet on Facebook you said ling was 'very very lucky' to escape a longer ban. There was nothing in that compared to the actions of mosienko! Make your mind up! Again though very different situation. Ling's was a slash that was intended to injure while Mosienko's was a couple of jabs while in a scrum against the boards. Can't even compare. There is nothing to make my mind up about. I know which one was the much much dirtier play. Ling's slash deserved a bigger suspension than what ever Mosienko gets. So now you want it even more watered down? Blimey, confusion reigns - I'm dipping out on this one
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Post by ted logan on Nov 17, 2015 16:20:34 GMT
Yeah that's the one! Then he was subsequently banned for the next day against Belfast (which was allegedly found out a little under 2 hours to faceoff), then missed the game against Sheffield the following Saturday. That one was all a little bit too convenient. What is this NFNF thing? Never Forgive. Never Forget. A longstanding Giants fan thing. Not from all of their fans I would add, just the special ones. Many moons ago a dirty Panthers player did something quite rotten, nasty and uncalled for to one of those poor little angelic Giants players. Parts of their fanbase were outraged and vowed to 'NFNF'.
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Post by Zukiwskyfan on Nov 17, 2015 16:28:52 GMT
Again though very different situation. Ling's was a slash that was intended to injure while Mosienko's was a couple of jabs while in a scrum against the boards. Can't even compare. There is nothing to make my mind up about. I know which one was the much much dirtier play. Ling's slash deserved a bigger suspension than what ever Mosienko gets. So now you want it even more watered down? Blimey, confusion reigns - I'm dipping out on this one What part of saying a player is lucky to escape with a one game suspension for a slash to the inside of the leg even hints I want the game watered down even further? The way suspenions seem to add up these days it did deserve more. The only thing confusing is trying to fathom out these replys!
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Post by ted logan on Nov 17, 2015 16:43:04 GMT
So now you want it even more watered down? Blimey, confusion reigns - I'm dipping out on this one What part of saying a player is lucky to escape with a one game suspension for a slash to the inside of the leg even hints I want the game watered down even further? The way suspenions seem to add up these days it did deserve more. The only thing confusing is trying to fathom out these replys! I don't get how you want the Mosienko spear(s) to only be a one game ban, yet you want/expected a multi-game ban for a slash to the back of the leg? Do agree with you though that some of the bans handed out are a bit OTT (Hanson started that when he was in charges of discipline) but DOPS have made a rod for their own back and that's why Mosienko will no doubt get a few games on the sidelines. As for your earlier comment on the Panthers/Steelers rivalry, I personally think that the fact we play each other about 48 times a season has watered it down more than anything else.
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Post by mattscold on Nov 17, 2015 16:52:55 GMT
I personally think a ban for Fitzy would be absolutely ludicrous. No check to the head in my opinion. I also don't think the spear was bad. 1 game strichtly because it's now the soft watered down product that is the modern game. This is the part I really don't get. People complain that we no longer see a real rivalry but then demand bans the second anything happens that could build anything up between the teams. Let them play and give us the entertainment and hatred we crave to see. Each to their own and all that, but who the hell goes to see hockey for "Hatred"? Surely if you want "Hatred" you are better off watching MMA or boxing, (although, these sports are grounded in mutual respect so maybe not) or better yet, listening to a bit of Death Metal, that should do it.
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Post by tootootrain on Nov 18, 2015 8:09:11 GMT
It's a means of sorting the complete numpty chaff from the wheat of the Belfast fanbase. If they quote "NFNF" they're invariably a chopper of the highest order, desperate to have a rivalry with someone. They're also likely to be the ones who whinge about not being able to take "flergs" and wear their colours to the SSE Arena.
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Post by ted logan on Nov 18, 2015 11:55:04 GMT
Just been for a quick wander over to Steeltalk to catch up on their fans reactions to the game.
They're on to page 9 already and in fairness there are plenty of well formed views/opinions. As ever, there are some very one eyed views. My particular favourite so far is:-
"Well Tony Smith enough fans witnessed Ling behaviour so perhaps the club needs to bring this to the attention of the league as unacceptable behaviour as a professional player and role model for others."
Erm......Jody Lehman's 'victory salute'.......Jason Hewitt's middle finger......Jason Hewitt's foul mouthed outburst(s).....to name just a few of the recent infractions from our friends Up North.
You lost. It happens. Get over it.
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Post by 5+game on Nov 18, 2015 12:01:17 GMT
Just been for a quick wander over to Steeltalk to catch up on their fans reactions to the game. They're on to page 9 already and in fairness there are plenty of well formed views/opinions. As ever, there are some very one eyed views. My particular favourite so far is:- "Well Tony Smith enough fans witnessed Ling behaviour so perhaps the club needs to bring this to the attention of the league as unacceptable behaviour as a professional player and role model for others."
Erm......Jody Lehman's 'victory salute'.......Jason Hewitt's middle finger......Jason Hewitt's foul mouthed outburst(s).....to name just a few of the recent infractions from our friends Up North. You lost. It happens. Get over it. and your forgetting about the b'stard over the pa system from a few seasons ago
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Post by pantherlee on Nov 18, 2015 12:27:13 GMT
Just been for a quick wander over to Steeltalk to catch up on their fans reactions to the game. They're on to page 9 already and in fairness there are plenty of well formed views/opinions. As ever, there are some very one eyed views. My particular favourite so far is:- "Well Tony Smith enough fans witnessed Ling behaviour so perhaps the club needs to bring this to the attention of the league as unacceptable behaviour as a professional player and role model for others."
Erm......Jody Lehman's 'victory salute'.......Jason Hewitt's middle finger......Jason Hewitt's foul mouthed outburst(s).....to name just a few of the recent infractions from our friends Up North. You lost. It happens. Get over it. and your forgetting about the b'stard over the pa system from a few seasons ago and Jason Hewitt squirting water into the crowd on multiple occasions at the NIC
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Post by mattscold on Nov 18, 2015 12:57:49 GMT
So no extra punishment for Mosienko... who's surprised?
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