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Post by texpef on Oct 23, 2015 8:49:56 GMT
Any one heard anything regards our lack of imports/injured players?
As far as I can tell we are still bombarded with deafening silence as to replace the injured/missing players? This is really going to start having a very detrimental impact on our season if it hasn't already with the close losses already experienced...
Oh and for those that say show patience the club do replace players, imho they do when they have to rather than when they need to generally, when the natives get restless then efforts appear to be made rather than to stop the natives getting restless in the first place...
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Post by spik on Oct 23, 2015 9:10:19 GMT
Perhaps Lawrence will be available soon...............
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 23, 2015 13:54:59 GMT
Perhaps Lawrence will be available soon............... I think he will be with the Steelers for the season now.
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Post by PantherG on Oct 23, 2015 14:14:49 GMT
Fretter is out for 6 weeks after a hernia op, So Lawrence is not going anywhere and Shuff will continue to operate with 15 imports if you could Darryl Hay and Chris Lawrence
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Post by Mark on Oct 23, 2015 18:08:21 GMT
Difference between s club that puts winning first and one that puts profits first. Probably accurately reflects the two owners outlooks.
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Post by nate24 on Oct 23, 2015 18:18:20 GMT
Difference between s club that puts winning first and one that puts profits first. Probably accurately reflects the two owners outlooks. Or who puts long term sustainable team operations in place and who puts all their eggs into one basket hoping for trophies to placate the fans when the budget runs out for the next season.
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Post by ted logan on Oct 23, 2015 18:19:27 GMT
Difference between s club that puts winning first and one that puts profits first. Probably accurately reflects the two owners outlooks. This. Totally agree.
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Post by Mark on Oct 23, 2015 19:39:14 GMT
Difference between s club that puts winning first and one that puts profits first. Probably accurately reflects the two owners outlooks. Or who puts long term sustainable team operations in place and who puts all their eggs into one basket hoping for trophies to placate the fans when the budget runs out for the next season. Maybe, or maybe Tony Smith is spending what he can afford whilst Neil Black works to a strict budget but in all likelihood could afford much more? Obviously all supposition on my part but the salient fact is the Panthers have been playing two import dmen short for the best part of a month whilst the Steelers covered their import shortcomings immediately.
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Post by iginla on Oct 23, 2015 20:25:00 GMT
Take Cardiff,the only difference between their costs and Panthers is that Cardiff supposedly don't pay arena rent,all other costs should be around the same. That rent difference would be £15k per game,or put another way equate to around 1000 tickets per game.
Panthers average 5000 and Cardiff average 2000 fans per game,deduct the first 1000 off Panthers and that means Panthers are still 2000 tickets or some £30k per game better off,which over a 30 game season is basically £1m per season,plus all the other financial benefits and spin offs of having far more fans.
Bearing that in mind,somebody please explain how Cardiff put a team on the ice comparable to Panthers each season if Panthers are spending what they could !!!!
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Post by craighead on Oct 26, 2015 8:12:11 GMT
This cannot go under the radar! Signing needed asap.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Oct 26, 2015 9:59:24 GMT
Be good to see a D man come in and with Waugh getting back toward full health it would only bolster what we've got, to say we've been running 3 Brits on the D were doing s pretty good job but bring another import in get Waugh back to full health and match fitness and take the stress of the Brits reduce their ice time and we'll see them play consistently better hockey for being less fatigued during the game reducing the chance of making mistakes.
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Post by ted logan on Oct 27, 2015 12:32:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 15:30:37 GMT
Maybe (simply a theory) they're waiting on someone like Chris Murray to make his mind up on where (or if) he's playing this season. He'd be my go to pick for a last import (even though he is the wrong handedness, is that even a word?), knows the league, moves the puck well and had a killer shot on the PP that always got through (something Steve Lee struggles with). Plus just imagine how good/effective he could be without having to play 40 minutes every night like he did whilst he was with us previously!
Shot from the point by Murray tipped in by Salters was quite a regular occurance if my memory serves me correctly.
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Post by lepine28 on Oct 27, 2015 20:02:57 GMT
Maybe (simply a theory) they're waiting on someone like Chris Murray to make his mind up on where (or if) he's playing this season. He'd be my go to pick for a last import (even though he is the wrong handedness, is that even a word?), knows the league, moves the puck well and had a killer shot on the PP that always got through (something Steve Lee struggles with). Plus just imagine how good/effective he could be without having to play 40 minutes every night like he did whilst he was with us previously! Shot from the point by Murray tipped in by Salters was quite a regular occurance if my memory serves me correctly. I was a big fan of Murray but I don't think he left on particularly good terms so would be surprised to see him back.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 20:07:01 GMT
Maybe (simply a theory) they're waiting on someone like Chris Murray to make his mind up on where (or if) he's playing this season. He'd be my go to pick for a last import (even though he is the wrong handedness, is that even a word?), knows the league, moves the puck well and had a killer shot on the PP that always got through (something Steve Lee struggles with). Plus just imagine how good/effective he could be without having to play 40 minutes every night like he did whilst he was with us previously! Shot from the point by Murray tipped in by Salters was quite a regular occurance if my memory serves me correctly. I was a big fan of Murray but I don't think he left on particularly good terms so would be surprised to see him back. He was probably too tired to say goodbye.
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Post by iginla on Oct 28, 2015 23:30:00 GMT
After tonight,anybody still think it was a good move to go an import short......Its looking more and more bloody stupid by the week !
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Post by Pies on Oct 28, 2015 23:38:33 GMT
After tonight,anybody still think it was a good move to go an import short......Its looking more and more bloody stupid by the week ! Did we lose? No Are we still in contention for the league? Yes Is the season over? No How many goals were scored by Brits tonight? 3 out of 4 Would we still have been an import short with a full compliment had Sclhultz got injured? Yes I don't understand what the point is?
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Post by Rob Scott on Oct 28, 2015 23:45:03 GMT
The probable point is that on Saturday we will have a maximum of 10 imports on the ice compared to the 13 from Sheffield.
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Post by iginla on Oct 28, 2015 23:52:50 GMT
Exactly Ftm. Just how long do people think we can remain in contention playing three imports and a Brit short......not long ! And that's before tiredness and niggles from playing too many minutes set in to the other players.
And when we play Cardiff and Belfast there will be 13 skating imports against only 9 of ours.
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Post by Pies on Oct 28, 2015 23:53:08 GMT
And they'll have just as many players as us
Dowd is out and so is Fretter. Charnock is on a 2 way deal - they'll put 3 lines of forwards and we'll have 10, they'll have 6 d and we'll have 6 d.
With out injuries, because we signed 4 lines, we still match up every week with other teams
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2015 23:59:17 GMT
Dowd returned tonight.
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Post by Pies on Oct 29, 2015 0:01:13 GMT
Sorry didn't know that but the point still stands is we are going with less imports yes but not less players. There's too much focus on passports right now, ultimately we are winning games and if we're not, we're getting no points out of them. Let's all agree we want to win come Saturday.
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Post by iginla on Oct 29, 2015 0:07:52 GMT
There is rather a large difference between having the same number of "players" and being three imports short. Bodies alone don't win games your imports and top couple of Brits do and Steelers with have the full compliment of 13 imports.
You may get away with playing short for a little while but not for long !
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Post by texpef on Oct 29, 2015 2:48:03 GMT
For me Pies as a fan of the Nottingham Panthers is my club doing everything it can to ensure enough wins come the end of the season to lift the league title and imho not replacing injured players (especially imports which are far easier to replace than the brits) and even not signing the maximum number of imports allowed is not doing that. Passports do matter because like it or not the imports are better players, it might be they have a better junior setup, start younger or just have a larger talent pool, they just are, and if for some reason you are unlucky and get a dud or injured player then its possible to just go out and get another one, something you just cant do with the brits.
Can anyone see sheffield, cardiff, belfast or even braehead not signing the full quota of imports? The only reason i can see for not doing this is purely penny pinching and this is not again imho acceptable for the best supported club in the country.
Oh and fretter might be out but within the week they had signed a "temporary" replacement who has earned another month at the club, what has panthers done for the over a month we have been without Waugh? And now it looks likely our star forward will be crocked. Am sure it will be interesting to see what the management do about this...
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Post by BigLad on Oct 29, 2015 7:55:13 GMT
I hope the coaching staff are seriously looking at bringing in an extra import D now, Mosey can then revert to forward to replace Shultz.
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