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Post by shmyrohdear on Oct 25, 2015 23:00:36 GMT
But the stats that matter right now especially for us a team that wants to solidify it's place at the top, have took points from all but 1 league game. We've qualified for our CC group and we have 3 guys to come back from injuries.
As far as I'm concerned we're making the best of bad situations. I don't see what you can complain about it's still early days. If we were dropping vital points against lesser teams then I'd understand but we're not. We're playing with purpose and compared to the last two seasons we're putting the effort in where it counts. We've got a consistent keeper and even with a defence unit that can be caught out. Our forwards have been very good at both ends of the ice and have been showing some passion and determination.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2015 23:15:54 GMT
Because we have lost SEVEN and won TWO against the Erhardt teams,currently sit bottom of the Erhardt conference and won't finish in the top two of our cup group. There's a few facts for you Jonno ! Let me get this right,everybody is happy if we don't win.....as long as we played well ? Just looked at our conference. Nottingham :Played 4 Points 4 Sheffield: played 4 Points 4 Coventry Played 4 points 4 Cardiff: played 5 Points 7 Belfast: played 9 Points 11. So SHOULD we win our games in hand, we go a point behind Cardiff into 2nd in our conference? Currently level with Sheffield and Coventey and Belfast have THREE regulation losses? Mate give your head a shake. We're gonna lose more games this year but that's because the league is so tight. Heres the points from this weekend: Clan 0 Sheffield 2 Cardiff 2 Us 3 Giants 4. Is it REALLY that bad? Honestly? |
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Post by Shaggy on Oct 25, 2015 23:17:23 GMT
Because we have lost SEVEN and won TWO against the Erhardt teams,currently sit bottom of the Erhardt conference and won't finish in the top two of our cup group. There's a few facts for you Jonno ! Let me get this right,everybody is happy if we don't win.....as long as we played well ? Cup group, bah... we're through to the next round, that's all that matters in the CC so far. Seeing as any team can beat any other on the night, does it really matter that much who we face in the QFs? But the most important competition is, of course, the league. I wouldn't be so quick to write off the Gardiner teams if I were you... points lost against them hurt the final league standings just as much as points lost against Erhardt teams... and how many times have we seen the latter get turned over by the former? Of the 5 Erhardt teams, only ourselves and Belfast haven't yet dropped league points to Gardiner teams. At this stage of the season, it's useless looking at how many points a team has won... but how many points a team has dropped? That's a decent indication of how hard they are making life for themselves:- Nottingham - 4 pts dropped Cardiff - 5 pts dropped Sheffield - 5 pts dropped Belfast - 7 pts dropped Braehead - 9pts dropped Coventry - 9pts dropped Dundee - 9pts dropped Edinburgh - 9pts dropped Fife - 11 pts dropped Manchester - 17 pts dropped Early days yet, but that - plus the other stats that Jono & Shorty pointed out - is a good indication that we're not in a bad place at all right now. Room for improvement, certainly... but still none too shabby. |
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Post by iginla on Oct 25, 2015 23:37:04 GMT
I'm not saying we're in a really bad place....yet.
But if we carry on at this rate we soon will be,you cannot keep giving your biggest rivals two points whilst you only take one or none and expect to win the league.
If you want to win it,you have to beat your rivals fairly consistently,because somebody will do so.
Have a look how many Erhardt games Belfast have played,that means they have a lot of Gardiner games to come so they will go further ahead.
Then have a look at our ridiculous schedule of away games coming up,we are going to lose a fair few of those.
We have players missing,are they doing anything about it ?
No they haven't,but if they had,in a very tight game like tonight in Cardiff we may well have won that game in regulation and got two points instead of losing,getting one point and giving the Devils two.
Games like tonight are what determines who wins the league and at present we are doing poorly against our own conference.
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Post by PantherG on Oct 26, 2015 0:37:53 GMT
I'm not hitting the panic button at our record against Erdhart teams, but I'm frustrated that we have not filled the last import slot with a D. I hope that we do sign one before we have that huge run of away games. I also get what has been said in terms of our goals against tally but Lee and Swidlehurst do struggle in their own end when under pressure, occasionally getting caught of of position. They would both benefit from an extra D import and Waugh to pair with them.
I also recall last season, we had endless debate on this forum, with most defending the team when we were in the race, changes were never forthcoming and look how bad last season ended up. Ultimately I wanna win that league and an extra D could make the difference come the end of March. It's also a worry to hear that Miiika will have a chunk of time off in Jan on Paternity leave when him and his wife welcome their new baby, hope to hell we have an import nettle lined up to cover him.
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Post by PantherG on Oct 26, 2015 0:43:43 GMT
And I have to say this evening we were robbed. Should have had that tied up inside 60 mins... Better team for the majority of the match but Dean Smith had other ideas, some of his calls were shocking, wish they'd sent him to Denmark, truly aweful....
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 26, 2015 1:11:21 GMT
Just got back and really enjoyed the game even though we didn't win in regulation. We let them get out of jail there tonight but looking better and better all round.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 26, 2015 1:14:08 GMT
And I have to say this evening we were robbed. Should have had that tied up inside 60 mins... Better team for the majority of the match but Dean Smith had other ideas, some of his calls were shocking, wish they'd sent him to Denmark, truly aweful.... I have never ever seen so many slashing incidents not called in a game ever and then all of a sudden he calls everything possible in the last period. Dean Smith is a strange little man. |
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Post by Yotes on Oct 26, 2015 1:38:24 GMT
It's also a worry to hear that Miiika will have a chunk of time off in Jan on Paternity leave when him and his wife welcome their new baby, hope to hell we have an import nettle lined up to cover him. Eh? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 4:01:22 GMT
It's also a worry to hear that Miiika will have a chunk of time off in Jan on Paternity leave when him and his wife welcome their new baby, hope to hell we have an import nettle lined up to cover him. Eh? Hey news to me ! |
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Oct 26, 2015 8:31:27 GMT
Let me get this right,everybody is happy if we don't win.....as long as we played well ? That's good enough for me. There's no underlying rule that we should win every game and everything. So long as we play well and the efforts there then I can't complain. If we play like that for the rest of the season, we won't be dropping many points. Panthers were extremely good and efficient defensively (despite missing import defencemen, I agree that I'd like to see another one out there, but I think they're coping quite admirably at the moment.) One PP goal against and a lottery in the shootout against a decent team in a place we struggle. We were the better team last night, and sure it sucks we couldn't get the win, especially when we outplayed them, but it's a good point. Win all your home games and majority of cross conference away games and pick up points away from home in the Erhardt Conference and you'll be there or thereabouts at the end of the season. 1 regulation loss in 9 is a good return. And as for being bottom of the Erhardt Conference... It looks bad that we're bottom but look at the actual stats too. Belfast have played 5 games more than us and are 7 points ahead, Cardiff are 3 points ahead with 1 game more played and us, Sheffield and Coventry are all level on 4 points from 4 games. I know we have to win the games in hand, but it's hardly like we're being battered and left for dead. We haven't lost in regulation in our 4 games either. So those three losses have picked us up points too. Back to the game, one thing for me, I thought some of Smith's calls were poor. A couple of really dubious ones and then a couple of blatant strange calls. The tripping penalty on Moran was especially odd. I thought overall it was slightly harsh, but if anything Moran got body position on the player as he backchecked and threw back his arm. If he'd have called elbowing, I'd have thought it was soft, but fair enough... But tripping!?!?!? Panthers will, and should be, disappointed that we outplayed a decent team and didn't get the extra point, but it wasn't for lack of effort or determination. They should take a good deal of positives out of this. Get a win on Wednesday and build up some good solid momentum for Saturday... Fingers crossed of course. |
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Post by PantherG on Oct 26, 2015 8:48:50 GMT
Yeh this is the case and has apparently been agreed. Hope the baby does not come early, as we will need him around the Christmas period. Also prior to the birth I wonder if he will only play home games, around the due date. This was being talked about by fans all around me on Saturday...... |
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Post by 5+game on Oct 26, 2015 9:09:13 GMT
If true we should never have signed him in the first place. you sign a starting netminder in this league to play every night (barring injury of course)offering paternity leave is a joke and certainly show what the panthers think of winning at any cost. |
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Post by PantherG on Oct 26, 2015 9:13:08 GMT
If true we should never have signed him in the first place. you sign a starting netminder in this league to play every night (barring injury of course)offering paternity leave is a joke and certainly show what the panthers think of winning at any cost. To be fair most players don't travel around the time of a baby, unless it is really close to home. Also did Kwall not get some Paternity leave too, we brought in Conway though to cover. I am sure the team will have a back up waiting in the wings, maybe Mogdig for a few weeks. |
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Post by voth26 on Oct 26, 2015 9:19:56 GMT
Well what a game last night, we were really lucky to get the win when we didn't really deserve it and the reason we did was down to bowns. I was impressed with Bombach very good player, also your nettie he has a very good glove hand. We didn't turn up for 40 mins, didn't forecheck couldn't pass to each other. The one player I was disappointed about was Ling I looked forward to seeing him but he didn't do much for me, Smith made some strange calls on both teams but the one player lucky not to pick up PMS was Myers!!, he liked the odd late slash or check when he was with the Devils but I didn't realise how much he does it regularly. Fortunately we ground it out mainly due to the 3rd period so can see how you guys feel hard done by especially when you hit pipework twice which had they gone in you would have been 3up.
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Post by bbw on Oct 26, 2015 9:40:26 GMT
Thought Panthers looked really good at times last night, just like they were last time they played here,and I don't think Devils could have complained to much if we ended with a 0 point weekend. The Moran call should never have been called as tripping, he tried to get across Haddad and in doing so his arm came up and his elbow caught Haddad in the face slowing him down. Should have been called as elbows or interference but it was a penalty.
From a Devils point of view we just have not been playing well, and that result at the Caps came as no surprise to me. We clicked against the Steelers and they had no answer to us. Now being at the top of the Elite league without playing well is not a bad place to be. But rest assured this Panthers team will be up there fighting come the business end of the season.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Oct 26, 2015 9:54:24 GMT
Just watched the highlights of the game and it's refreshing to see a panthers team willing to compete in all aspects of the game and not be pushed around by Cardiff's goons, Hotham is a piece of poo poo for throwing that punch after Macmillan rag dolled him and popped him with a few, shows his class that he stopped throwing once Hotham was down he could have unloaded on him. Pity Hendrikx slipped in his fight with Cam we all know Cam likes a long fight and would have been good to see it carry on, Oakford fight didn't really see on the highlights and Bohmbach land a Bohm to put pidgeon head Haddad on him bum was pretty good. This teams dangerous and with players to come back I'm expecting success come the end of the season and hopefully we can retain a lot of these players and bring in better for the ones who will leave like Schmidt who's retiring after this season. Wiikman is a great pick up and in Shultz and Bohmbach we've got a deadly pairing and when Ling gets up to full speed he'll only complement them.
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Post by EMB on Oct 26, 2015 9:59:21 GMT
If true we should never have signed him in the first place. you sign a starting netminder in this league to play every night (barring injury of course)offering paternity leave is a joke and certainly show what the panthers think of winning at any cost. To be fair most players don't travel around the time of a baby, unless it is really close to home. Also did Kwall not get some Paternity leave too, we brought in Conway though to cover. I am sure the team will have a back up waiting in the wings, maybe Mogdig for a few weeks. One of the reasons that GM has signed alot of 'singles' this season. He found the players who came with families caused him too much agro with their needs. I thought it was hearsay until they actually mentioned on the Panthers tv that the majority of the team on here on their own. I suppose we'll have to wait and see how close the league is come 'delivery time' as to how much paternity leave he is allowed as I'm not sure if his family is staying here or just on a visit. |
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Post by Shorty on Oct 26, 2015 10:08:17 GMT
If true we should never have signed him in the first place. you sign a starting netminder in this league to play every night (barring injury of course)offering paternity leave is a joke and certainly show what the panthers think of winning at any cost. Like no other club does this..... Jody Lehman whilst at Steelers springs to mind. |
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Post by Yotes on Oct 26, 2015 10:29:51 GMT
Like no other club does this..... Jody Lehman whilst at Steelers springs to mind. Depends what we're talking about really, if he's going to disappear for a couple of weeks (4+ games?) it could be damaging to our league/cup campaign (that's what I think of as paternity leave*), him missing a game or two when his missus is due, which is what I think happened with Girlsname (he was back for the 2nd leg of that cup final), would obviously be understandable and expected. * - I'm not even sure paternity leave exists anymore, don't we have shared parental leave or something? They've probably just re-badged it. |
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Post by BigLad on Oct 26, 2015 11:31:54 GMT
Why is giving a new dad some time off with his new born a bad thing?
It's a basic human right for fudges sake.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 26, 2015 12:37:37 GMT
Well, it'd be a bad thing for the club, because it'd be near impossible to get a replacement of his quality as cover, and the season will go on whether he's there or not. That doesn't mean it's the wrong thing to do (for him or the club).
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Post by 5+game on Oct 26, 2015 12:46:06 GMT
If true we should never have signed him in the first place. you sign a starting netminder in this league to play every night (barring injury of course)offering paternity leave is a joke and certainly show what the panthers think of winning at any cost. Like no other club does this..... Jody Lehman whilst at Steelers springs to mind. Couldn't care less what other teams do. I want the panthers to have the best possible chance of winning every game and if we had the choice of a player that needs to miss time and a player that doesn't then I know which one I would be signing. |
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Oct 26, 2015 12:51:12 GMT
If true we should never have signed him in the first place. you sign a starting netminder in this league to play every night (barring injury of course)offering paternity leave is a joke and certainly show what the panthers think of winning at any cost. Isn't that technically illegal and discriminating? Like no other club does this..... Jody Lehman whilst at Steelers springs to mind. Couldn't care less what other teams do. I want the panthers to have the best possible chance of winning every game and if we had the choice of a player that needs to miss time and a player that doesn't then I know which one I would be signing. Wouldn't you sign the best possible player? What if the other people that were interested weren't close to Miika's ability? Should we sign them because they don't have a pregnant wife? |
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Post by iginla on Oct 26, 2015 13:23:01 GMT
As I understand it from what Miika said a couple of weeks ago his wife is here in Nottingham.
If that's the case then one game is the maximum he should miss on the day it's born,he isn't the one having the baby.
Jesus it's not as if these guys can't already spend 20 hours a day with the missus if they wanted to,all they do is nip to the rink for a couple of hours training in a morning and play one away game each week.
The other 90% of the week he can be there right next to her side.
These guys need to appreciate what the normal working guy does all week,he doesn't get to spend anywhere near the same amount of time with the better half as a hockey player does !!!!!
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