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Post by kezypanther on Mar 21, 2013 14:41:45 GMT
It's not 1 game losing streak it is 2. I have posted this on here a few days ago. We have only lost two games in a row. The second losses were both too devils at there place. The last two game loss was in October, hope that's all correct.
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Post by spik on Mar 21, 2013 17:06:55 GMT
It's not 1 game losing streak it is 2. I have posted this on here a few days ago. We have only lost two games in a row. The second losses were both too devils at there place. The last two game loss was in October, hope that's all correct. Either way it's hard to see which they mean.Not looked at the fixtures myself.Just posted what came from the Elite stats men.
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Post by spik on Mar 21, 2013 17:46:37 GMT
Actually got the latest 'MEDIA guide and RECORD book' from IIHF. Errors there also and I'm telling em so.
Example, their run down of 'National Champions' - Play Offs 01 Sheffield 02 Sheffield 03 Belfast 04 Sheffield 05 Coventry 06 Newcastle 07 Nottingham 08 Sheffield 09 Sheffield 10 Belfast 11 Sheffield - er No 12 Belfastn - what?
Seem to jump to League winners, pity the people who run this sport don't talk hockey when they meet with IIHF rather than clanging wine glasses.
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Post by spik on Mar 23, 2013 0:47:20 GMT
It's not 1 game losing streak it is 2. I have posted this on here a few days ago. We have only lost two games in a row. The second losses were both too devils at there place. The last two game loss was in October, hope that's all correct. Realise your talking about 'total games played' but the ONLY one game as a longest losing streak refers to League games only.
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Post by iginla on Mar 24, 2013 21:00:10 GMT
In Belfast last week,when Matt Francis scored the empty netter,as he went clear he was being massively hooked/held etc etc yet he still scored. If however he had been pulled down i assume a penalty shot would have had to be awarded.
If so,is that a penalty shot on an empty net,i'm assuming it must be ?
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Post by Caesar on Mar 24, 2013 21:44:51 GMT
Great question!
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Post by Shorty on Mar 24, 2013 21:44:56 GMT
In Belfast last week,when Matt Francis scored the empty netter,as he went clear he was being massively hooked/held etc etc yet he still scored. If however he had been pulled down i assume a penalty shot would have had to be awarded. If so,is that a penalty shot on an empty net,i'm assuming it must be ? A goal would have been given had he not scored Awarded goals
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Post by bobness on Mar 25, 2013 15:34:38 GMT
I've actually seen this happen in an NHL game. For LA at Vancouver, about 4 years ago. In that case it was a thrown stick, as I recall.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 25, 2013 18:22:50 GMT
I think if he doesn't get a clean shot away it is a penalty shot on empty net. If he gets a clean shot it is just a penalty. If something is thrown or the net dislodged and the shot is deemed on target, it is a goal. Depends what the ref was calling the penalty for also, so thankfully we'll never know.
Also we don't have a rule book so anything could have happened :-)
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Post by BigLad on Mar 25, 2013 20:56:05 GMT
On Friday's EIHL show, Shudra said it would've been given as a goal.
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Post by bobness on Mar 26, 2013 11:44:08 GMT
I think if he doesn't get a clean shot away it is a penalty shot on empty net. If he gets a clean shot it is just a penalty. If something is thrown or the net dislodged and the shot is deemed on target, it is a goal. Depends what the ref was calling the penalty for also, so thankfully we'll never know. Also we don't have a rule book so anything could have happened :-) A PS on an empty net? I'd pay to see that. ;D And it doesn't depend on what the penalty was. IIHF rule 508, explanatory note 2. 2. If, when the opposing goalkeeper has been removed form (sic) the ice and a player in “Control of the Puck” outside his own Defending Zone, with no opponent to pass between him and the opposing goal net (See also Rule 533 and 539) is fouled from behind, the Referee shall award to the non-offending team a Goal. In this case, it's a goal, simple as. "Rickets" Ron (bless him, a legend, to be fair) is quite correct. And I believe, playing wise, that the EIHL play to IIHF rules, as modified by the extra rules on the EIHL website. Is that not true?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 17:18:44 GMT
Also we don't have a rule book so anything could have happened :-) I believe, playing wise, that the EIHL play to IIHF rules, as modified by the extra rules on the EIHL website. Is that not true? Yes. Has been for some years.
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Post by bobness on Mar 26, 2013 19:02:17 GMT
Thanks for that, Stef. It is a bit wearisome, all this "no rule book" gubbins. All there if you want to look at it.
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Post by james1977 on Mar 26, 2013 20:38:17 GMT
Thanks for that, Stef. It is a bit wearisome, all this "no rule book" gubbins. All there if you want to look at it. Yeah but bless 'Mr No Rule Book'. Its been explained to him more than once that the EIHL play to IIHF rules, other than the changes mentioned on the EIHL website, but it doesn't seem to have placated him/sunk in. Still, it keeps him busy and no doubt stops him potentially hurting himself playing in the street or something.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 26, 2013 20:57:26 GMT
Still not a complete rule book, but ho hum.
Just to name a couple related to recent events: What is the elite league policy on doping? Right and proper checks for new owners?
No need for anything like that to be covered. Hell they can't even get the league tables right on their website. Pay no attention to the men behind the curtain.
Point still stands, no one knows what the refs call was on the ice. Could have been anything.
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Post by bobness on Mar 27, 2013 11:17:11 GMT
Sorry, you've lost me now. The EIHL has a complete book of playing rules. Full stop, end of. As to its policies (not rules) regarding other matters, why on earth would they be public? They're internal matters and dealt with internally. I am under no obligation to publish my disciplinary policy and procedures for my company to the wider world. It's an internal matter. And what ref? What call? The call (hooking, tripping, interference etc as it would be "normally") doesn't matter to award a penalty goal? I thought we'd established that, as it's in the rule book.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 28, 2013 23:48:45 GMT
If th ref deems the Belfast player touched the puck it is only 2 min pen, no goal or pen shot.
Other professional sports have complete rule books, sorry for wanting to aspire to that level.
Anyways, back to th thread, we are champions!
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Post by bobness on Mar 29, 2013 9:30:42 GMT
The rule is very clear, and it doesn't mention "if the offending player touches the puck" at all. I've not heard of any penalty in hockey where it matters if the player "touches the puck" (except touch icing). If there is such a rule, tell me where, in the rule book, which we have and is available as per below, I'm genuinely curious. www.iihf.com/iihf-home/sport/iihf-rule-book.htmlBut yes, we are the champions.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 29, 2013 11:24:40 GMT
The "player must be in possession and have control of the puck", bit.
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Post by bobness on Mar 29, 2013 11:46:41 GMT
That refers to the attacking player, so that you can't just hoof the puck out of your zone, be chasing it from 30 yards away, get fouled and get a PS/goal. The attacking player must be in possession of, and have control of, the puck.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 30, 2013 21:59:59 GMT
What's it say in the rule book about abandoning the game due to broken plexi? :-)
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Post by Dan on Mar 31, 2013 2:22:52 GMT
Can we talk about this elsewhere?
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Post by bobness on Mar 31, 2013 11:16:10 GMT
Please.
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Post by pantherdman on Mar 31, 2013 13:20:11 GMT
Can we talk about this elsewhere? Are you asking me out?
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Post by Penaltybox on Mar 31, 2013 18:19:43 GMT
Can we talk about this elsewhere? Are you asking me out? Or wanting to drop the gloves
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