Atko
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Post by Atko on Nov 4, 2004 15:47:16 GMT
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 4, 2004 16:07:44 GMT
"Thommo also accuses Nottingham Panthers of "self interest" in allegedly ignoring "a generation of young talent on their doorstep"
I'm interested to read in what context he's refering...
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Paul
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Post by Paul on Nov 4, 2004 16:28:29 GMT
" Thommo also accuses Nottingham Panthers of "self interest" in allegedly ignoring "a generation of young talent on their doorstep" I'm interested to read in what context he's refering... Surely that's more players for him then so why is he complaining? Also, how is ignoring a generation of local talent self interest? |
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 4, 2004 16:30:42 GMT
Surely that's more players for him then so why is he complaining? Also, how is ignoring a generation of local talent self interest? Well the two players that jump to mind would be Ashley Tait & Adam Radmall...?! Both were products/are products of the youth set up based here in our lovely city... Until we read the whole gist of what he's refering too, all I can say is WTF |
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Post by fightygirl on Nov 4, 2004 16:37:44 GMT
I can't open this link!  |
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 4, 2004 16:49:01 GMT
I can't open this link! It wouldn't work for me on the first occassion, just try again & it should be okay FG |
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Mark
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Post by Mark on Nov 4, 2004 17:34:06 GMT
Shock, Horror!
Elite league coach attacks rival teams as reported by The Stir.
Hardly earth shattering news, obviously not much to announce about the proposed Steeler takeover.
As for Panthers and local Brits, well Blaze aren't exactly over flowing with Brits themselves this season, local or other wise. Best get the hardboard and nails out Mr Thompson, I've a feeling you may have some windows to board up.
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Post by Stoopy on Nov 4, 2004 18:07:18 GMT
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Post by Samxpenguin on Nov 4, 2004 18:10:57 GMT
" Thommo also accuses Nottingham Panthers of "self interest" in allegedly ignoring "a generation of young talent on their doorstep" I'm interested to read in what context he's refering... He may be reffering to the fact we've gone for established Brits such as Clarke and Myers in comparison to the talent we have in the under 19's and Lions. I've been told (dont know from first hand) quite a few young talented players that are palying at those levels. In Sheffield am i right in thinking they have a large group of younger players training with them? I've been told there are players who are more talented than Scott, wether they get asked and don't want to do it or there not asked for certain reasons i dont know. But i guess that might be what he's getting at. |
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 4, 2004 18:25:19 GMT
He may be reffering to the fact we've gone for established Brits such as Clarke and Myers in comparison to the talent we have in the under 19's and Lions. I've been told (dont know from first hand) quite a few young talented players that are palying at those levels. In Sheffield am i right in thinking they have a large group of younger players training with them? I've been told there are players who are more talented than Scott, wether they get asked and don't want to do it or there not asked for certain reasons i dont know. But i guess that might be what he's getting at. If for instance you're right Sam, I don't see what is wrong with signing players such as Clarke & Myers, and not promoting players from the Lions. Sure it'd be nice to have Lions players ultimately playing for Panthers, but Panthers themselves aren't under some kind of moral obligation to do it are they  |
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Post by oneill on Nov 4, 2004 22:39:11 GMT
I think the dirtest player award belongs to Miahlik,He's a marked player when we play Blaze next..
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Post by masked_man on Nov 5, 2004 0:31:19 GMT
Not sure if he is saying we havent promoted players from youth teams or Nottingham clubs like the Lions? Like you are saying.
More so l believe about Tait, good player but woudnt swap him for Clarke or Myers.
Thompson trying the say.. there loss is our gain but in harsh words?
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Shaggy
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 5, 2004 0:36:07 GMT
" Thommo also accuses Nottingham Panthers of "self interest" in allegedly ignoring "a generation of young talent on their doorstep" Maybe he was looking in a mirror when he wrote that garbage..... Adam Radmall, good prospect, goes from Nottingham to the Blaze, gets under-used, leaves. Alan Levers, good prospect, goes from Nottingham to the Blaze, gets under-used, leaves. Blaze reduce the number of British players on their regular squad from the first year of the EIHL, the Panthers INCREASE the number of British players on their regular squad from the first year of the EIHL. Anyone else see a pattern here? |
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Post by Adam on Nov 5, 2004 0:50:28 GMT
Maybe he was looking in a mirror when he wrote that garbage..... Adam Radmall, good prospect, goes from Nottingham to the Blaze, gets under-used, leaves. Alan Levers, good prospect, goes from Nottingham to the Blaze, gets under-used, leaves. Blaze reduce the number of British players on their regular squad from the first year of the EIHL, the Panthers INCREASE the number of British players on their regular squad from the first year of the EIHL. Anyone else see a pattern here? I could'nt agree more Shagster   |
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Post by Igor on Nov 5, 2004 0:59:50 GMT
Maybe he was looking in a mirror when he wrote that garbage..... Adam Radmall, good prospect, goes from Nottingham to the Blaze, gets under-used, leaves. Alan Levers, good prospect, goes from Nottingham to the Blaze, gets under-used, leaves. Blaze reduce the number of British players on their regular squad from the first year of the EIHL, the Panthers INCREASE the number of British players on their regular squad from the first year of the EIHL. Anyone else see a pattern here? Yeah, all your good prospects left Nottingham... one of them is doing quite nicely up here in Sheffield though ;D |
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Post by heja on Nov 5, 2004 1:06:14 GMT
is that why quite a fewof them afre saying that they want to get rid of him?? and would rather play ferrand or some other guy up front instead of him?? ;D
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MP
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Post by MP on Nov 5, 2004 7:50:05 GMT
Yeah, all your good prospects left Nottingham... one of them is doing quite nicely up here in Sheffield though ;D Good job someone is playing well for Sheffield this year....  ;D |
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Post by fightygirl on Nov 5, 2004 9:16:21 GMT
It wouldn't work for me on the first occassion, just try again & it should be okay FG Cheers - got into it after a few attempts.  |
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Post by texpef on Nov 5, 2004 9:57:02 GMT
think some are missing the point here, in that how deeply did the stir have to search to find "any" kind of dig or reference in his book to the nottingham team? As this was an article in the SHEFFIELD stir it had to have the obligatory dig at us hence the one liner about our team. The majority of the article was either an advertisement of his book or a slur on the star player of the sheffield team was it not? It looked to me that our reference was one of an afterthought in the vein of "hey need to get our dig in to the nottingham team to deflect it away from us". On another topic ie our "team" and it may be better to start another thread but hey, whats everyones impression of our team and others so far now we are a good way into the season? Tim you dont need to respond we know your view!!!  Imho i think we arent a "team" yet and genuinely think adey has gone with too few players this year. He still appears to me to be incapable of extracting the best out of what we have and i honestly believe we have some of if not the best group of players in the league. Looking at some of the performances i have seen this year i think we are no better than a mid table team and a quick look at the league table it tends to reflect this in our results and position (oh if only we had got whistle when we had a chance eh"). I know this isnt politcally correct but my one consolation is steelers are doing worse than us, however given their history and possible replacement of ownership i dont doubt for a minute this could well change then it really will start to become depressing eh, will we rue that point we gave then in thier place earlier in the season?  |
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Post by Cav on Nov 5, 2004 10:03:13 GMT
Thommo's book is out this week & he wants to shift a few thousand copies. What a coincidence. His publicists must have greased a few palms at the Stir, then they print something mildly contoversial & we're all discussing it on this form, and probably others are doing the same elsewhere. There's no such thing as bad publicity !!
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Post by sunbeam on Nov 5, 2004 10:33:23 GMT
Thommo's book is out this week & he wants to shift a few thousand copies. What a coincidence. His publicists must have greased a few palms at the Stir, then they print something mildly contoversial & we're all discussing it on this form, and probably others are doing the same elsewhere. There's no such thing as bad publicity !! Tell that to Michael Jackson! He's wrote a book and has been outspoken. Good. Nothing controversial in that and The Star has rightly printed a few highlights from the book which may interest its readers. These hightlights, including the Panthers line, would have been provided to The Star by the publishers so people like texpef need to get a grip on reality and stop feeling so paranoid. If Panthers have chosen Brits from places other than Nottm junior clubs then clearly they are concerned with the self-interest of their team rather than the advancement of local hockey players. Thommo is right in his assertion but whether the Panthers are doing anything wrong is whole different arguement. NP haven't won the league since Jesus was a lad so can you blame Neil Black in going for quality rather than locality?? I appreciate SS do have the sort of local policy Thommo would like but then their trophy cabinet is a bit fuller than our's. |
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Post by texpef on Nov 5, 2004 10:58:46 GMT
sunbeam wheres the paranoia?
Just a quick look over the past dozen or so stir reports on the steelers and the vast majority refer to nottingham in some way or other, where is that paranoia its just plain facts....
Just a quick last point if the highlights were provided by the publisher and not researched by the stir why in a week of little panthers news has not the evening post done a similar article then??
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 5, 2004 11:10:42 GMT
Yeah, all your good prospects left Nottingham... one of them is doing quite nicely up here in Sheffield though ;D Igor - we already know you are ignorant and blinkered - why keep insisting on proving it? All of our good prospects left? - ever hear of Paul Moran? - ask Furby, at least once his ears have stopped ringing..... not bad having a home-grown GB senior international, eh? Something you lot haven't been able to match, for all your posturing. How about Dan Scott? James Cooke and James Neil training with the team as well.... care to bet against them getting ice time down the line? And there are lots more..... We've got plenty of good prospects here in Nottingham, thanks. It's natural for players to move about, no? - and we've had plenty of service out of good ones from Nottingham, whether they've gone elsewhere or not..... Paul Moran, Marc Levers, Adam Radmall, Alan Levers, Dan Scott, Ashley Tait..... How many of similar calibre have Sheffield produced in the past 10 years? Oh yeah - Geoff Woolhouse - now playing for NOTTINGHAM. |
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 5, 2004 11:15:06 GMT
If Panthers have chosen Brits from places other than Nottm junior clubs then clearly they are concerned with the self-interest of their team rather than the advancement of local hockey players. Thommo is right in his assertion but whether the Panthers are doing anything wrong is whole different arguement. NP haven't won the league since Jesus was a lad so can you blame Neil Black in going for quality rather than locality?? I appreciate SS do have the sort of local policy Thommo would like but then their trophy cabinet is a bit fuller than our's. SS having the sort of local policy that Thommo would like? Yeah, right...... look at where their regularly-used Brits came from:- Ben Bliss - Nottingham Paul Sample - Belfast (most recently) Ryan Lake - Hull Home-grown talent?..... they DO have plenty in their junior system - but it's not exactly reflected in the Steelers roster, is it? |
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Post by Milkman™ on Nov 5, 2004 11:36:52 GMT
Sort of double standards here Mr Tommo.....
Is a third rate Canadian, who's highest level of play was WHL, coming to these shores to make a buck at 25 years old not ignoring local talent.
As for dirtiest player in the league, there are a few more that deserve that tag, however im not gonna inflate their egos any more than it probably already is?
I was only looking through some old memorabilia last week, and smiled when i came across a signed picture of Andy Bezaeu, now he was a dirty little f***er, but good with it too, when McSorley labeled him the anti christ, he wasnt far wrong.
My memory of him is Nieckar pulling him off the plexi, when i was giving him hand gestures in the old barn, i am sure he would have got over too, given he chance. I have spoken to him since and he confirmed this.
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