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Post by jinman18 on Nov 7, 2004 11:07:30 GMT
Thought Krullis had one of his better games tonight as well as JC. JC seemed like the old JC, going for every little snip of puck that he could. Myers continues to shine. Clarke seemed off , but we know he can glow when he wants to, maybe tonight?, Caddy good show,RW had his best game, McKenna "What a pleasure to watch", Ricci SOLID, CC so reliable, MAREK IVAN...................seems to get 'bag on' when decisions dont go his way, i feel he has a very short 'redmist' fuse and is not playing for 'the team' right now , SORT IT, although i do like his plays when he performs. Danny keep grinding, with a bit of weight and time i think he will become a solid GB player. Thought we could have gone with Woolly for the last period, he must be chomping at the bit!
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Post by lockerbie on Nov 7, 2004 11:42:32 GMT
I agree totally, he needs more ice time, so why not send him off to play in the lower leagues, get his confidence and weight etc up and bring him back in when hes ready. Just feel hes out of place and surely thats holding him back
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Post by nuttyrockeress on Nov 7, 2004 11:48:39 GMT
People are going on about Daniel Scott falling over alot last night, hasn't anyone noticed that, when he came in, Mark Cadotte couldn't stay on his feet, especially against Coventry. Danny is just 17, he's playing against people twice his age and strength. He's not going to look like an NHLer agaisnt some of the players BUT how is going to get better if he cannot play against people who are better than him? And how can you say he has no passion, the guy gives his all every match, because if he didn't, he wouldn't be on the bench would he, and if he wasn't giving it his all last night then why did he stick up for himself against on of the Basingstoke D's, that was having a go at him. I thought he was going to drop the gloves at one point. Great Work Danny, Keep It Up!! Thank you - thank you Now, last night I had had a few so thats why I didn't write anything on the the fact that I was annoyed at the post slating Danny off!!! Firstly, perhapsDanny did fall over a few times during the game - it wasn't one of his best ones. Secondly, how anyone can say he doesn't have any passion I just can't believe that. I have known him for a number of years and he grew up watching Panthers and wanting to play for them. It has been said before but if he is on the bench at all Panthers games but rarely getting a shift then how is he expected to become a top flight player. He has the passion to but doesn't get the ice time to allow him to proove himself - still at 17 he still has time to do so but needs chance to practice in the mean time and I think that he should get chance to play for the Lions as i'm sure (Shaggy quote me if i'm wrong) that he gets ice time for most of the night when he plays for the Lions? Now, as an Admin, I am getting pretty "cheesed" off with the usual Saturday night, Sunday morning slating crew - win or lose the same people with the same boring annoying comments!! "Ooo so and so was cr**" and "He was total and utter Sh**e tonight" Yes this is a forum and you are to express your views but I think that some people just need to think about what they say and the implications of what they are saying - I know i'm not the only admin who thinks that too!.....
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Post by jinman18 on Nov 7, 2004 11:50:21 GMT
I suppose that could be an option, could knock his ambition thou, whilst he's with the 'big boys' he's learni ng from the best there are, its a mental/physical problem, if Adey thought he needed to go out i feel he would have already gone
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Post by Wigwam on Nov 7, 2004 12:08:17 GMT
I see we have moved on from Craighead 'bashing'...good to see. However, it appears that a NEW sport has popped up.... Ivan 'bashing'. What a complete bunch of a*se some of you are. All you do is moan, moan,...& a bit more moan. Nothing wrong with 'constructive' criticism, but some of you are all for character assasination, & haven't got the foggiest of what you are on about. I am in a privaleged possistion...I know a lot of what does & doesn't go on. There is NO dressing room 'unrest' - the team spirit in the locker room is the best it has been for years. Why do some people persist in poo stirring, & attempt to cause hassle for the team they supposedly support?. I just don't get it. If I was that p*ssed off with a product, I'd stop giving them my money, & spend it elsewhere. Perhaps some others should do the same.
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Post by Admin on Nov 7, 2004 12:18:23 GMT
Well said Wigwam, good to see someone batting on behalf of the team and saying exactly what I feel - but if I'd said it the 'freedom of speech' brigade would soon start whinging on about Admin impartiality etc etc ... Some of you need to think before you type and commit your comments to the forum. As for the comment regarding Daniel Scott and a lack of passion ... you are having a laugh aren't you? Maybe not his best game to date ... but he was doing lots right if you could be bothered to look past the fact that he fell on his arse a couple of times. As for 'lack of passion' ... have a word with yourself, he's Panthers Passion personified.
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Post by Lammy on Nov 7, 2004 12:19:56 GMT
I was really pleased with last night, and it could easily have been a much bigger margin had we managed to put away some of the one-on-ones and open netters, but thats hockey, they only have a split second to decide where to aim and I guess you win some, you loose some. Thought Caddy is looking much more like his usual self, quicker and meaner, which is great, and as someone who has not particularly been a JC worshipper I thought he had an excellent game, getting him off Ivan's line seems to be paying off and he is obviously rising to the responsibility of playing with the Brits. Thought Kimmy was a bit quiet but hey, maybe he's got a bug or summat (there's lots going round!). Wasn't surprised Insane Ivan went off on one, he'd been getting cheap shots dished at him all night, pity the guy didn't wanna go toe to toe, but I heard he'd recently had concussion so wouldn't fight - just happy to give it out! Good result, pity our fragile D man got broken again, but McKenna - what a joy and a privilege to watch! Having just seen previous two posts, the Insane Ivan bit isn't a crack at him - honest! I actually think he's great to watch, bit of a character (insane, but a character! )
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 7, 2004 12:26:18 GMT
It has been said before but if he is on the bench at all Panthers games but rarely getting a shift then how is he expected to become a top flight player. He has the passion to but doesn't get the ice time to allow him to proove himself - still at 17 he still has time to do so but needs chance to practice in the mean time and I think that he should get chance to play for the Lions as i'm sure (Shaggy quote me if i'm wrong) that he gets ice time for most of the night when he plays for the Lions? Not just the Lions. Dan plays for the Panthers, the U19s AND the Lions! I'm not completely sure who takes precedence, but I think it goes U19-Panthers-Lions.... not certain of that, so please don't quote me. Either way - he gets all the ice-time he can eat with the Leopards and the Lions.... and some with the Panthers. Nice to see him getting regular shifts for two full periods last night, that's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2004 12:31:27 GMT
We did enough in the first 6 minutes then coasted the rest of the game, which is understandable when you consider we have another game tonight. I thought JC was a class above last night, he had an excellent game as did Wojiack (think how much of a boost to his confidence that MOM award will be) I watched McKenna very closely. I have to say that he oozes class and it's obvious to see why he has played so many games in the NHL. Every pass he makes finds a team mates stick. I thought Ivan deserved his game penalty as he tried to carry on fighting with someone who just wasn't interested, plus he almost clobbered a linesman in the process. The only dissapointment for me last night was that we failed to score more goals when presented with some glorious opportunities. I don't think anyone would have been surprised if we had scored 9 or 10.
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Post by Admin on Nov 7, 2004 12:42:09 GMT
Not just the Lions. Dan plays for the Panthers, the U19s AND the Lions! I'm not completely sure who takes precedence, but I think it goes U19-Panthers-Lions.... not certain of that, so please don't quote me. Either way - he gets all the ice-time he can eat with the Leopards and the Lions.... and some with the Panthers. Nice to see him getting regular shifts for two full periods last night, that's for sure. I believe he's also coaching the kids (U14s?) The guy lives in his skates and is doing all he can to develop his game.
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Post by James on Nov 7, 2004 13:07:37 GMT
JC was fantastic tonight, 0 PIM's, A goal and an assist.
Cadotte is also looking good.
Have not got much to say about the match really, it was over in the first 5 minutes. But we need to practice some 1 on 1's.
Fully agree with Wigwam.
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 7, 2004 13:12:09 GMT
JC was fantastic tonight, 0 PIM's, A goal and an assist. Cadotte is also looking good. Have not got much to say about the match really, it was over in the first 5 minutes. But we need to practice some 1 on 1's. Fully agree with Wigwam. I don't think it matters if 88 gets PIMS, so long as they don't hurt the team, but I understand what you're infering James
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Post by Sussex Panther on Nov 7, 2004 13:18:05 GMT
Sounds good especially when you think that by the end of the game we were 4 players short of our best squad (3 I suppose given import restrictions). Looking forward to tonight now!
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Post by jinman18 on Nov 7, 2004 13:36:59 GMT
Who you diggin at Wigwam?
Like anton said earlier about opinions, its what we are here for.
With regards to slaggin players, that i aint, i felt Ivan just hits the red mist too early in games and if last nights game was say a Steeler/Devils game then we could ill have avoided to lose him
He could take his aggresion out tonight thou!
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Post by Samxpenguin on Nov 7, 2004 13:56:58 GMT
I see we have moved on from Craighead 'bashing'...good to see. However, it appears that a NEW sport has popped up.... Ivan 'bashing'. What a complete bunch of a*se some of you are. All you do is moan, moan,...& a bit more moan. Nothing wrong with 'constructive' criticism, but some of you are all for character assasination, & haven't got the foggiest of what you are on about. I havn't read through these post closely but i've glanced and i can't see too much Ivan 'Bashing' on here. Thers comments like mine that he's abit of a 'Nutter', and i think he is, but i don't see that as critism? In my eye's he's been our 2nd best forward this season (behind the very impressive Clarke), he's creative and he's a charactor. Just because people class him as Insane or a nutter doesn't mean its critism...thers hardly people saying 'he's not up to it etc.etc', Jinman18's the only one whos said he hasnt been upto the standards he's usually at. There are some grumpy people on here, who enjoy moaning about the team. But there onyl a few, and i don't see any of those posts here.
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Post by Heanor Lair on Nov 7, 2004 14:29:44 GMT
I see we have moved on from Craighead 'bashing'...good to see. However, it appears that a NEW sport has popped up.... Ivan 'bashing'. What a complete bunch of a*se some of you are. All you do is moan, moan,...& a bit more moan. Nothing wrong with 'constructive' criticism, but some of you are all for character assasination, & haven't got the foggiest of what you are on about. I am in a privaleged possistion...I know a lot of what does & doesn't go on. There is NO dressing room 'unrest' - the team spirit in the locker room is the best it has been for years. Why do some people persist in poo stirring, & attempt to cause hassle for the team they supposedly support?. I just don't get it. If I was that p*ssed off with a product, I'd stop giving them my money, & spend it elsewhere. Perhaps some others should do the same. Here Here Wigs... Well Said I admire Ivan, and although I dont really go in for the fighting bit, I fully support what Ivan did last night. Thompson was awful last night and wasnt watching the game. One of our youngsters was going to get hurt. Ivan did the right thing, dropped his gloves and landed one (it was funny seeing him tower over the stripey). Did you notice how Bison decided not to rough it up after Ivan dished it out Prehaps they were watching Mr Mckenna and Mr Craighead out of the corner of their eyes. GET OFF IVANS BACK!! For those folks who dont appear to watch the game, have you noticed how much Kalmikov has improved since Ivan arrived? Ivan bustlesand works hard in that centres role and provides Kalmikov with space in which he excels. Once again my congratulations to Craighead. He was superb last night. The Brits revel with him on the line. Just a quick aside on the stats front: Bison have averaged 3 goals a game this season, we limited them to 1. They have averaged 36 SOG per game, they were limited to 21 tonight. We have conceeded 2.8 goals per game, last night 1, and have scored 3.3 goals per game, last night 4. Not a bad days work at the office me thinks. Regards HL
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Post by heja on Nov 7, 2004 14:44:11 GMT
agree 100% with Heanor Lair
Ivan has been slashed in every game he has played this season and he finally lost it, just wish the linesman wouldn't jump in, let them get it out of there system so they don't go and do something stupid later on that could result in serious injury.
but i don't think craighead did anything different last night to what he has being doing all season (well for the last 10 games or so anyway) thats why i don't get why people where moaning at him earlier. yeah he hasn't had the luck in front of net, but he has still played a masive role for panthers.
Myers and wojciak line wouldn't of been half as good with out craighead on that line last night, and i think only McKenna could of done as well as craighead did with them.
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 7, 2004 14:50:11 GMT
Just out of interest, how did Kalmikov fair last night?
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Post by nickthepanther44 on Nov 7, 2004 15:20:57 GMT
i think the great thing bout craighead being on the brit line is it gives them freedom to try there skill instead of just passing it really quickly because they dont want to get nailed by big d-men.
the opposition are alot more wary of being overly rough with them when craighead is on there line
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Post by heja on Nov 7, 2004 15:32:13 GMT
he scored a breakaway goal ( ithink) but didn't really notice him after that, but probably just because by that time the game was won
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Post by MP on Nov 7, 2004 16:17:05 GMT
Just out of interest, how did Kalmikov fair last night? He did OK. He is a much improved player now - we're begining to see his true potential. A nice finish for his goal again lastnight. He is something of a sniper. He thrives on having space to work in. The likes of Craighead and particularly McKenna can make him that space. His defensive awareness seems to have improved as well.
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Post by Admin on Nov 7, 2004 16:26:41 GMT
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Post by MP on Nov 7, 2004 16:55:08 GMT
Myers and wojciak line wouldn't of been half as good with out craighead on that line last night, and i think only McKenna could of done as well as craighead did with them. Of course Craighead is going to make is going to make a big contribution to Myers and Wojciak. JC has been making space for others to play all season but as Adey said, it just hasn't been happening for him this season. Playing with Matt and Richard effectively on the third line means they often get matched up to the oppositions weaker lines and so get the chance to do some damage - as they did lastnight. Some of the drop passing between JC and Wojciak was a joy to watch - they seem to hit it off really well. Daniel had an off night by his standards but you couldn't fault him for effort. He is very much on a learning curve - if he doesn't go and play against better players then he won't learn. Credit to Adey for keeping him out there lasnight - the most effective way of learning is by your mistakes. Daniel is very determined, he will learn from lastnight. As he learns and puts on some weight he has the potential to become a very good player. Others were making mistakes lastnight but by the nature of the game they didn't matter. Still can't quite believe that incident where Scott Ricci not only fanned on his attempt to stop the puck coming out of the Bison zone but somehow managed to throw himself off his skates as well leaving a gleefull Bison forward with the prospect of skating one on one with Curtis. A bit of quick thinking saved the day though, a sweep of the glove and play whistled down for a hand pass. Smart work, breakaway avoided and no penalty taken in the process. Think Ricci made more mistakes lastnight than he has in all the previous games combined but that's not a bad time to make them when you're two goals up and cruising. I must say I'm enjoying an unexpected bonus at the moment. After four seasons where Panthers haven't had a defence worth the name suddenly I'm watching Ricci and McKenna playing D on the same line. Two really good Dmen, read the game brilliantly, stay disciplined and use the puck well. Both of them come to play everynight and seem to love playing the game. With Curtis backstopping them, watching defence has never been so much fun! Long may it continue.
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Post by DS on Nov 7, 2004 17:13:06 GMT
Posted by: CRITIC (aka heja) Posted on: Today at 15:44:11
But if the other guy doesn't want to fight, then the linesmen have to jump in. You would complain if they stepped in to protect a Panthers.
The best way to get back at someone, is to score goals!
In your opinion, IMHO he hasn't played like he did last night. Could have easily been MOM and would have deserved it!
#88 doesn't have to score goals for me to say he played well, I just want him to go out there and give 110%
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Post by heja on Nov 7, 2004 18:01:35 GMT
Thats what i am saying
that he played really well last night, but the only thing he did different was to score a gaol and get an assist, thats why i don't get why people are moaningat him when he plays like that every night just minus a goal.
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